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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2018 20:31:37 GMT
Anthem is a jack-of-all-trades, master of none. It's becoming painfully obvious with more info Bio releases and the game isn't even out.... Maybe that’s a really really good thing.. by keeping the playing field even and being a “master of none” / jack of all trades the Devs later down the line can focus their content updates and DLC on what the people want. Let’s be honest the community is divided on this game.. once it releases and REAL opinions and critiques come out, Bioware has something to focus on for the game. Until then it’s just talk cause they know they won’t be able to please everyone. That has worked real well for SW:TOR... If it's not the PvPers crying foul it's the PvE/story players if not them it's the raiders/ops players... BW:A can't win no matter what they try and do. And you want the Anthem devs to do much the same and listen to what the players want? Good luck with that actually working out....
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Post by Starkest on Sept 10, 2018 20:34:08 GMT
Maybe that’s a really really good thing.. by keeping the playing field even and being a “master of none” / jack of all trades the Devs later down the line can focus their content updates and DLC on what the people want. Let’s be honest the community is divided on this game.. once it releases and REAL opinions and critiques come out, Bioware has something to focus on for the game. Until then it’s just talk cause they know they won’t be able to please everyone. That has worked real well for SW:TOR... If it's not the PvPers crying foul it's the PvE/story players if not them it's the raiders/ops players... BW:A can't win no matter what they try and do. And you want the Anthem devs to do much the same and listen to what the players want? Good luck with that actually working out.... I figure something will give since this IP is supposedly the start of some 10 year gaming journey.. and having watched the pitfalls of games like destiny and the division maybe they learned something or will eventually implement something for the better.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Sept 11, 2018 1:57:27 GMT
Bioware have never implemented text chat and I believe it's to keep the toxic abuse out. I'm just unsure how it'll impact that PC community. While Anthem only has 4 players on the map at any given time, I would think that text chat helps for people in clans and whatnot. Serious clans will have Discord, Teamspeak, Mumble, etc. It's the random pugs, or the squads stuck with them, that suffer the most from lack of built-in text chat. You can't yell at the pug to stop Leroy Jenkinsing the Stronghold boss, for example. This is assuming the pug also doesn't have a headset, or they do but you've muted them for playing the Badger Badger Badger song in an endless loop. Actually, doesn't EA Origin already have a text chat overlay?
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Post by biggydx on Sept 11, 2018 5:42:11 GMT
I'm just unsure how it'll impact that PC community. While Anthem only has 4 players on the map at any given time, I would think that text chat helps for people in clans and whatnot. Serious clans will have Discord, Teamspeak, Mumble, etc. It's the random pugs, or the squads stuck with them, that suffer the most from lack of built-in text chat. You can't yell at the pug to stop Leroy Jenkinsing the Stronghold boss, for example. This is assuming the pug also doesn't have a headset, or they do but you've muted them for playing the Badger Badger Badger song in an endless loop. Actually, doesn't EA Origin already have a text chat overlay? No clue
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Post by Pounce de León on Sept 11, 2018 6:51:09 GMT
I'm just unsure how it'll impact that PC community. While Anthem only has 4 players on the map at any given time, I would think that text chat helps for people in clans and whatnot. Serious clans will have Discord, Teamspeak, Mumble, etc. It's the random pugs, or the squads stuck with them, that suffer the most from lack of built-in text chat. You can't yell at the pug to stop Leroy Jenkinsing the Stronghold boss, for example. This is assuming the pug also doesn't have a headset, or they do but you've muted them for playing the Badger Badger Badger song in an endless loop. Actually, doesn't EA Origin already have a text chat overlay? You have to be "friends" to use it. Doesn't work on randos.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Sept 11, 2018 8:11:43 GMT
Serious clans will have Discord, Teamspeak, Mumble, etc. It's the random pugs, or the squads stuck with them, that suffer the most from lack of built-in text chat. You can't yell at the pug to stop Leroy Jenkinsing the Stronghold boss, for example. This is assuming the pug also doesn't have a headset, or they do but you've muted them for playing the Badger Badger Badger song in an endless loop. Actually, doesn't EA Origin already have a text chat overlay? You have to be "friends" to use it. Doesn't work on randos. Yeah and the way its been done (basically some chromium crap running it) its horrible and you dont have ANY history in the chat. It works for quick "thanks for the games!" type stuff ONE ON ONE - no teams, no group chat..
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Post by Pounce de León on Sept 11, 2018 8:13:48 GMT
You have to be "friends" to use it. Doesn't work on randos. Yeah and the way its been done (basically some chromium crap running it) its horrible and you dont have ANY history in the chat. It works for quick "thanks for the games!" type stuff ONE ON ONE - no teams, no group chat.. There was group chat once - is that gone?
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Sept 11, 2018 8:15:26 GMT
Yeah and the way its been done (basically some chromium crap running it) its horrible and you dont have ANY history in the chat. It works for quick "thanks for the games!" type stuff ONE ON ONE - no teams, no group chat.. There was group chat once - is that gone?
I see no possibility to do one at least. I've only chatted in different tabs with different people.
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Post by Sartoz on Sept 13, 2018 14:34:18 GMT
Is Anthem really a Bioeesh game?
Hm...I find it MMOOeesh in the sense it's online, co-op with four players. It's MMOOeesh in the sense it has Destiny like public events. Plus, as Jonathan Warner says, the ".. real magic is when you play with a squad". It's Bioeesh in the sense it has a hub, aka, Skyhold, Normandy.. It's Bioeesh in the sense it has modified /breakaway NPC char story format but not a RPG.. It's Bioeesh in the sense it has a main char, like Cmdr Sheppard because of choices available (though limited due to binary selection).
Free Play is interesting but will it lead anywhere? Game balance is really designed with four players in a squad. I don't know about you guys, but I got tired playing ME3MP and MEAMP after three months or so. Haven't really gone back as other activities/priorities came up. This game, I believe, is for the under 25 crowd.
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Post by biggydx on Sept 13, 2018 14:46:42 GMT
Is Anthem really a Bioeesh game?
Hm...I find it MMOOeesh in the sense it's online, co-op with four players. It's MMOOeesh in the sense it has Destiny like public events. Plus, as Jonathan Warner says, the ".. real magic is when you play with a squad". It's Bioeesh in the sense it has a hub, aka, Skyhold, Normandy.. It's Bioeesh in the sense it has modified /breakaway NPC char story format but not a RPG.. It's Bioeesh in the sense it has a main char, like Cmdr Sheppard because of choices available (though limited due to binary selection).
Free Play is interesting but will it lead anywhere? Game balance is really designed with four players in a squad. I don't know about you guys, but I got tired playing ME3MP and MEAMP after three months or so. Haven't really gone back as other activities/priorities came up. This game, I believe, is for the under 25 crowd.
To answer that question, you first have to ask what constitutes a BioWare game.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2018 20:54:29 GMT
That has worked real well for SW:TOR... If it's not the PvPers crying foul it's the PvE/story players if not them it's the raiders/ops players... BW:A can't win no matter what they try and do. And you want the Anthem devs to do much the same and listen to what the players want? Good luck with that actually working out.... I figure something will give since this IP is supposedly the start of some 10 year gaming journey.. and having watched the pitfalls of games like destiny and the division maybe they learned something or will eventually implement something for the better. The likelihood of BioWare learning their lessons would be jack-shit. That’s how incompetent they seem to have been since Mass Effect 3, if not Dragon Age 2 and The Old Republic simultaneously regardless of the studios responsible for their respective products.
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Post by NotN7 on Sept 13, 2018 21:44:31 GMT
I figure something will give since this IP is supposedly the start of some 10 year gaming journey.. and having watched the pitfalls of games like destiny and the division maybe they learned something or will eventually implement something for the better. The likelihood of BioWare learning their lessons would be jack-shit. That’s how incompetent they seem to have been since Mass Effect 3, if not Dragon Age 2 and The Old Republic simultaneously regardless of the studios responsible for their respective products. Sorry but can you a least say in your opinion cause I don't share yours
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Post by cloud9 on Sept 14, 2018 3:24:56 GMT
I figure something will give since this IP is supposedly the start of some 10 year gaming journey.. and having watched the pitfalls of games like destiny and the division maybe they learned something or will eventually implement something for the better. The likelihood of BioWare learning their lessons would be jack-shit. That’s how incompetent they seem to have been since Mass Effect 3, if not Dragon Age 2 and The Old Republic simultaneously regardless of the studios responsible for their respective products. Thank you.
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Post by cloud9 on Sept 14, 2018 3:31:51 GMT
Or you could...not say anything. What, and let this be an echo chamber for CPgaming fanboys? I'm doing an altruistic duty to the truth. That's BSN in a nutshell.
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Post by Sartoz on Sept 14, 2018 15:01:24 GMT
The likelihood of BioWare learning their lessons would be jack-shit. That’s how incompetent they seem to have been since Mass Effect 3, if not Dragon Age 2 and The Old Republic simultaneously regardless of the studios responsible for their respective products. Sorry but can you a least say in your opinion cause I don't share yours
Well, even industry mags mentioned the need for Bio to hit a home run with Andromeda, after the ME3 ending debacle. Otherwise, it would be dire times for Bio. Andromeda was a failure and EA dissolved the Mtl studio.
That is hardly what anyone can call learning.
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Post by Sartoz on Sept 14, 2018 15:05:44 GMT
I figure something will give since this IP is supposedly the start of some 10 year gaming journey.. and having watched the pitfalls of games like destiny and the division maybe they learned something or will eventually implement something for the better. The likelihood of BioWare learning their lessons would be jack-shit. That’s how incompetent they seem to have been since Mass Effect 3, if not Dragon Age 2 and The Old Republic simultaneously regardless of the studios responsible for their respective products.
Hey, I like Da2.. not the reused cave assets, mind you or enemies dropping from the sky. Oh, well, different strokes.....
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Post by General Mahad on Sept 18, 2018 6:16:13 GMT
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Post by goishen on Sept 19, 2018 3:12:17 GMT
Yah, if you watch YongYea, you know that he's been killing it lately as far as EA goes. BioWare is like the red headed step child.
I used to have hope for EA. The entire, "We're listening to you!" I fell for that hook, line, and sinker.
Nowadays, I don't care what happens to them.
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Post by Sartoz on Sept 26, 2018 16:52:32 GMT
Yah, if you watch YongYea, you know that he's been killing it lately as far as EA goes. BioWare is like the red headed step child. I used to have hope for EA. The entire, "We're listening to you!" I fell for that hook, line, and sinker. Nowadays, I don't care what happens to them.
Oh, EA was listening but not paying any attention. As I keep saying, it's all corp speak.
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Post by Sartoz on Sept 26, 2018 16:56:34 GMT
I predict, that with the legal use of cannabis in Canada game devs will become a happy lot.
Also, gaming + brownies will become ubiquitous. .... in Canada at least.
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Post by samhain444 on Sept 26, 2018 17:50:29 GMT
YongYea?....haha
No, but seriously...
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Post by goishen on Sept 26, 2018 23:20:14 GMT
It's corpspeak. It's all PR *cough*lies*cough* speak.
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Post by Starkest on Sept 27, 2018 12:58:37 GMT
It's corpspeak. It's all PR *cough*lies*cough* speak.
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Post by Pounce de León on Sept 27, 2018 13:04:22 GMT
It's corpspeak. It's all PR *cough*lies*cough* speak. No drug talk here. And not in the hype thread either. OK?
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Post by Sartoz on Sept 27, 2018 13:19:12 GMT
YongYea?....haha No, but seriously...
Yong Yea tells it as he sees it. Some, of course, are upset because his "naked facts" conflict with their world view.
Either way, the Alpha is here and bug hunting is afoot. Anthem will receive better reviews if the launch is "clean" as opposed to Andromeda's.
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