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Post by Shinobu on Dec 20, 2018 1:21:37 GMT
1. Before I tried it, I was afraid of finding horrible people in ME3MP but found really great people instead. Anthem may attract a different, more aggressive crowd, but if you have friends you never have to be exposed to PUGs if you don't want to be. There are people here and elsewhere putting together guilds of friendly players who will help you. Lack of PvP will also hopefully keep the trolls away.
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3. I didn't enjoy DA2 very much but found Inquisition and MEA pretty fun and am looking forward to more.
If you've decided Anthem isn't for you, ok, fair enough. It definitely doesn't seem as tailored to us RPG players as previous games. You might find DA4 or ME:Next more to your liking. Or you could try the free demo of Anthem and make up your mind then.
1. I don't have friends, really, and especially not friend that are into gaming. At all. A few of them play Pokemon Go or Word Feud, and that's it. And basically all my online friends are in a different time zone (I am EU, they are NA). Unless one of us is going to play from 1 am to 5 am in the morning... it's not possible to do multiplayer, basically. Especially since I really only have time to play on sundays. 3. After DA2, I only (and yes, I am serious, this was the only reason I bought it) bought DA:I because I could play as a female Qunari. Unfortunately the neither new game engine nor art style could handle them, so not only did they look like tall sulky teenage girls instead of awesome amazons due to the choice of art style, but also the game engine really couldn't do white hair properly so you had to use dark hair colors... As for RPGs, I am fairly flexible. After all I have 1250 hours in Fallout 4 and plan to restart that soon. I have even more hours in Skyrim. I have played through DDoS2 once already and will do it again shortly (quite frankly I do consider that the best CRPG ever made). I played through Origins five times, two human origins, two city elf origin and one poor dwarf origin. If I remember correctly I played through BG1 18 times (though there was not much like it on the market then) and BG2 12 times. I just don't get a "feel" for this game.It looks, and feels (from video) like it's not enough yet too much player customizations. Can I change more than just the face and gender? Will my character develop or not? If not, why not just do like Overwatch and have very well written likeable fixed characters, and you have to pick one? 1. I mean you can make Anthem friends, either here (there is a thread in the co-op section for people wanting to find others to play with) or "in the wild" out in the world of Anthem. When I first started playing ME3MP I had zero friends on my list. At the end of a match I would send friend requests to the teammates I enjoyed playing with (protip: you are more likely to be accepted if you send the request to the person just below you on the scoreboard rather than the guy at the top). Many of the people I wound up playing with regularly and we ended up playing other games together. Just because you have no one to play with now doesn't mean you're doomed to be alone forever.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Dec 20, 2018 1:22:15 GMT
Difference is I have NPC allies whom I can use in DAI, Anthem doesn’t because it’s beyond BioWare’s ability apparently. Relying on randos is a coin flip that rarely turns out well in my experience. You understand that in both cases, that’s a choice you get to make? I defeated the Highland Ravager with a full NPC crew and I did it solo. In Anthem I could include randos or go it solo. As someone mentioned above, just think of randos as NPCs with really random AI.
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Post by river82 on Dec 20, 2018 1:25:16 GMT
Even though I'm more optimistic about the game, there are still things that concern me; regarding the games retail release. - Will the world feel too empty? Considering Inquisition and Andromeda had dull exploration, I would be worried about that as well. Bioware has yet to really grasp what makes a place fun to explore.
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Post by Shinobu on Dec 20, 2018 1:41:18 GMT
Difference is I have NPC allies whom I can use in DAI, Anthem doesn’t because it’s beyond BioWare’s ability apparently. Relying on randos is a coin flip that rarely turns out well in my experience. You understand that in both cases, that’s a choice you get to make? I defeated the Highland Ravager with a full NPC crew and I did it solo. In Anthem I could include randos or go it solo. As someone mentioned above, just think of randos as NPCs with really random AI. I think he means that he would like the opportunity of choosing AI companions (not going solo, but not having to rely on others). Given how much trouble the AI has in other games, I think the combat in Anthem will just be too complex for an AI squad to work reliably. So for Anthem he will have to choose to go solo or play with others.
Playing with friends is much better than either AI or randoms, though. There are places and ways to find reliable people to play with. Who knows, other people may also want to team up to play silently together and not deal with the "social" aspect at all.
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Post by lennybusker on Dec 20, 2018 1:48:56 GMT
The combat is not "too complicated" for AI, lol give me a break. But it would take a significant amount of dev work to ensure companion AI is functional and useful (just like any other game), and they'd probably rather not deal with it.
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Post by officerdonnz on Dec 20, 2018 1:53:31 GMT
What friends? If you're friends list is anything like mine, you won't have to worry about getting annoying pop ups while in Fort Tarsis. More seriously though it's a good question. One of the perks of being a reliable rando is collecting friends to play with. The only down side is when one wants some alone time. I remember having friends ninja join a solo attempt in ME3MP (my bad for forgetting to go invisible), or sometimes joining my lobby when I had already promised the last spot to someone else. That situation is super awkward. In general I'm not a big fan of the ninja join.
I'll send you a friend invite. Cool Look forward to it. I have the whole time zone thing to contend with as well. I guess this sort of thing will work it's self out once the game goes live
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Post by officerdonnz on Dec 20, 2018 1:57:55 GMT
The combat is not "too complicated" for AI, lol give me a break. But it would take a significant amount of dev work to ensure companion AI is functional and useful (just like any other game), and they'd probably rather not deal with it. We know there are enemy AI driven Javelins in the game (The Dominion) but how that'd compere to actual AI squad mates I don't know.
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Post by Shinobu on Dec 20, 2018 2:18:50 GMT
The combat is not "too complicated" for AI, lol give me a break. But it would take a significant amount of dev work to ensure companion AI is functional and useful (just like any other game), and they'd probably rather not deal with it. From the Everything We Know About Anthem thread:
" No AI Teammates: The nature of traversal and the verticality of the levels puts this out of our abilities ATM. [ Source]"
In ME3 my squad would often get stuck in doorways, so the likelihood of them flying around in Iron Man suits competently seems unlikely. Whether it is impossible or not worth spending dev time on it, either way it's not happening in the near future.
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Post by arcanistranger on Dec 20, 2018 3:17:27 GMT
So, with public opinion on Anthem growing even more positive with every release of information they do, do you losers still believe you can stop Anthem from being a huge success for BioWare and their fans? Or do you still intend to try to shit on everyone with a life's parade?
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Post by DragonRacer on Dec 20, 2018 3:49:06 GMT
So, with public opinion on Anthem growing even more positive with every release of information they do, do you losers still believe you can stop Anthem from being a huge success for BioWare and their fans? Or do you still intend to try to shit on everyone with a life's parade? Okay, so since moderators are considered to not be very transparent with moderation, apparently, according to some, here's some transparency for everybody. This aggressive vitriol and attacks made towards fellow forum members, across three separate threads (mostly cleaned up now and moved out of sight), after coming back from a 24-hour ban and then a 3-day ban for the exact same behavior, which was explained via email as being the reason for the bans and a reminder to read and abide by forum rules... was clearly ignored. Since repeated informal and formal warnings were ignored, as well as two levels of bans ignored, this user has been permbanned.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Dec 20, 2018 3:50:53 GMT
So, with public opinion on Anthem growing even more positive with every release of information they do, do you losers still believe you can stop Anthem from being a huge success for BioWare and their fans? Or do you still intend to try to shit on everyone with a life's parade? Okay, so since moderators are considered to not be very transparent with moderation, apparently, according to some, here's some transparency for everybody. This aggressive vitriol and attacks made towards fellow forum members, across three separate threads (mostly cleaned up now and moved out of sight), after coming back from a 24-hour ban and then a 3-day ban for the exact same behavior, which was explained via email as being the reason for the bans and a reminder to read and abide by forum rules... was clearly ignored. Since repeated informal and formal warnings were ignored, as well as two levels of bans ignored, this user has been permbanned. Should have done it sooner dude.
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Post by DragonRacer on Dec 20, 2018 3:54:44 GMT
Okay, so since moderators are considered to not be very transparent with moderation, apparently, according to some, here's some transparency for everybody. This aggressive vitriol and attacks made towards fellow forum members, across three separate threads (mostly cleaned up now and moved out of sight), after coming back from a 24-hour ban and then a 3-day ban for the exact same behavior, which was explained via email as being the reason for the bans and a reminder to read and abide by forum rules... was clearly ignored. Since repeated informal and formal warnings were ignored, as well as two levels of bans ignored, this user has been permbanned. Should have done it sooner dude. Contrary to the belief of some, we really do try hard to give people and things a chance. Perhaps, sometimes for too long. This became incredibly cut and dry when the instant return was nothing but raining shit across multiple threads. Zero constructive value. I'm sorry everyone had to put up with this BS for as long as it existed.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Dec 20, 2018 3:57:01 GMT
Should have done it sooner dude. Contrary to the belief of some, we really do try hard to give people and things a chance. Perhaps, sometimes for too long. This became incredibly cut and dry when the instant return was nothing but raining shit across multiple threads. Zero constructive value. I'm sorry everyone had to put up with this BS for as long as it existed. Meh, it was fun trolling the troller. Got a few laughs out of it.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Dec 20, 2018 4:02:36 GMT
Should have done it sooner dude. Contrary to the belief of some, we really do try hard to give people and things a chance. Perhaps, sometimes for too long. This became incredibly cut and dry when the instant return was nothing but raining shit across multiple threads. Zero constructive value. I'm sorry everyone had to put up with this BS for as long as it existed. Thank you. That guy made me look calm, friendly and reasonable. I am none of those things
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Post by Shinobu on Dec 20, 2018 4:04:39 GMT
Should have done it sooner dude. Contrary to the belief of some, we really do try hard to give people and things a chance. Perhaps, sometimes for too long. This became incredibly cut and dry when the instant return was nothing but raining shit across multiple threads. Zero constructive value. I'm sorry everyone had to put up with this BS for as long as it existed. Thank you so much! I feel as though a weight has been lifted off my shoulders.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2018 4:12:59 GMT
Mostly, he was just bad at it. Like the phishing scam emails that have all sorts of problems in the text with grammar, syntax and spelling. I would read his posts and wonder if it was a parody that I just didn't quite get … I also wondered if he was an alt of someone, but IIRC, the mods look out for those kinds of things. There are some here that I generally put on "auto-ignore" because with rare exception, they have nothing much to add … but every once in a while, one of them will surprise me. He was like an amalgam of those folks, dialed up to 11. So over the top, I couldn't really take it seriously. And now he's gone. I doubt he'll be missed and probably not remembered for long. On a totally different and more cheery note, have you noticed mousestalker 's new avatar … it really made me laugh … but don't tell her I said that.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Dec 20, 2018 4:17:17 GMT
Mostly, he was just bad at it. Like the phishing scam emails that have all sorts of problems in the text with grammar, syntax and spelling. I would read his posts and wonder if it was a parody that I just didn't quite get … I also wondered if he was an alt of someone, but IIRC, the mods look out for those kinds of things. There are some here that I generally put on "auto-ignore" because with rare exception, they have nothing much to add … but every once in a while, one of them will surprise me. He was like an amalgam of those folks, dialed up to 11. So over the top, I couldn't really take it seriously. And now he's gone. I doubt he'll be missed and probably not remembered for long. On a totally different and more cheery note, have you noticed mousestalker 's new avatar … it really made me laugh … but don't tell her I said that. Oh, I totally won't. *runs off to tell her anyway* 😈
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Post by biggydx on Dec 20, 2018 5:10:01 GMT
The combat is not "too complicated" for AI, lol give me a break. But it would take a significant amount of dev work to ensure companion AI is functional and useful (just like any other game), and they'd probably rather not deal with it. We know there are enemy AI driven Javelins in the game (The Dominion) but how that'd compere to actual AI squad mates I don't know. I believe that they've already stated that they can't allow for 3D dog-fight between Player vs AI, as they said it added too many dimensions for them to account for (confirmed by Mark Darrah). So I don't think it would be easy for them to program having AI companions in the game AND have them be just as effective as players in navigating the 3D landscape.
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Post by cloud9 on Dec 20, 2018 6:58:47 GMT
So, with public opinion on Anthem growing even more positive with every release of information they do, do you losers still believe you can stop Anthem from being a huge success for BioWare and their fans? Or do you still intend to try to shit on everyone with a life's parade? Well, it is called the Skepticism Thread. And if you cannot handle the heat then get off the kitchen.
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Post by lennybusker on Dec 20, 2018 7:26:17 GMT
Should have done it sooner dude. Contrary to the belief of some, we really do try hard to give people and things a chance. Perhaps, sometimes for too long. This became incredibly cut and dry when the instant return was nothing but raining shit across multiple threads. Zero constructive value. I'm sorry everyone had to put up with this BS for as long as it existed. Yall gave them the chance, and went through the process. A blind person could see it coming, but yall did right by the forum as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by lennybusker on Dec 20, 2018 7:32:32 GMT
The combat is not "too complicated" for AI, lol give me a break. But it would take a significant amount of dev work to ensure companion AI is functional and useful (just like any other game), and they'd probably rather not deal with it. From the Everything We Know About Anthem thread:
" No AI Teammates: The nature of traversal and the verticality of the levels puts this out of our abilities ATM. [ Source]"
In ME3 my squad would often get stuck in doorways, so the likelihood of them flying around in Iron Man suits competently seems unlikely. Whether it is impossible or not worth spending dev time on it, either way it's not happening in the near future.
I'm too lazy at 2:30 AM to go searching but just imagine a roll eyes gif here. I see that statement as more PR hype over the amazing! and never before seen! and heretofore unfathomable! traversal and combat style of the game than an actual statement of their abilities. I'm not saying we are entitled to bot teammates, I'm just saying the reason they won't be in the game is that BWEA doesn't want them to be.
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Post by officerdonnz on Dec 20, 2018 7:43:38 GMT
Um I think I missed something, who go the ban hammer?
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Post by PillarBiter on Dec 20, 2018 7:55:29 GMT
Even though I'm more optimistic about the game, there are still things that concern me; regarding the games retail release. - Will the world feel too empty? Considering Inquisition and Andromeda had dull exploration, I would be worried about that as well. Bioware has yet to really grasp what makes a place fun to explore. Well, obviously, the answer is more fetch quests.
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Post by river82 on Dec 20, 2018 8:25:54 GMT
Um I think I missed something, who go the ban hammer? arcanistranger
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Post by therevanchist25 on Dec 20, 2018 10:47:56 GMT
Um I think I missed something, who go the ban hammer? arcanistranger Who?
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