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Post by Abramsrunner on Jan 26, 2019 8:10:32 GMT
I've watched some gameplay of the Anthem demo, but the enemies don't say anything at all from what I've seen, not even a taunt?
Whatever happened to stuff like "Go,Go,Go", "I will destroy you", or "Enemies everywhere" from ME1? The Loki toasters making notes about the shots hitting it, Mercs screaming their lungs out, Geth toasters making clicking sounds, & Harbinger mocking you in ME2? Cerberus troops saying "taking casualties", "medic", "grab cover", reacting to getting hit, & knocked down, Reapers like Marauder Shields doing weird noises while doing specific actions, Brutes chest pounding, & the Banshee's signature scream in ME3?
I didn't hear any enemies saying stuff during the moment to moment action in the game from what I've watched. The enemies you face feel pretty lifeless, no different from a standup target that can shoot/fight back.
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Post by lennybusker on Jan 26, 2019 11:12:53 GMT
I've watched some gameplay of the Anthem demo, but the enemies don't say anything at all from what I've seen, not even a taunt? Whatever happened to stuff like "Go,Go,Go", "I will destroy you", or "Enemies everywhere" from ME1? The Loki toasters making notes about the shots hitting it, Mercs screaming their lungs out, Geth toasters making clicking sounds, & Harbinger mocking you in ME2? Cerberus troops saying "taking casualties", "medic", "grab cover", reacting to getting hit, & knocked down, Reapers like Marauder Shields doing weird noises while doing specific actions, Brutes chest pounding, & the Banshee's signature scream in ME3? I didn't hear any enemies saying stuff during the moment to moment action in the game from what I've watched. The enemies you face feel pretty lifeless, no different from a standup target that can shoot/fight back. Agree, the enemies are rather lifeless. It's also hard to really tell what's what, they don't have outstanding silhouettes aside from one or two units. There was a great part in one of the Halo documentaries where they talked about enemy design and the key principles they had to abide by. They had to have distinguishing silhouettes so you always knew which units were in front of you, even from far away. They also had to die in interesting ways. Meaning if you got a headshot kill for example, there has to be something making it really satisfying like a big splatter of alien blood or gas blowing out of pressurized helmets. That all carried over to Destiny as well. In Anthem, it's like, I'm just killing amorphous blobs. Quickly, anyone, without googling: what does a Scar soldier look like? A vague oval shape with a stick poking out, right? There's a dreadfully generic Big Beefy Shield Boy. At least the mid-level shielded guy has a somewhat memorable look with all of the spikes coming out of him. But what actually are they? I just know he looks sharp. And when they die, I couldn't even tell you what happens even though I played for several hours yesterday. I remember one unit explodes on death, so I'll give em that one.
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Post by majesticjazz on Jan 26, 2019 12:47:26 GMT
So...off to a great start.
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Post by 10k on Jan 26, 2019 14:19:42 GMT
I think his rant summarizes why we have a skepticism thread. From day 1 I've been saying this game was going to be a destiny/warframe clone, and here we are lol. I implore anyone who can cancel their pre-order to do it and wait for a discount or at least wait for more reviews.
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Post by monkeylungs on Jan 26, 2019 14:35:27 GMT
I am hoping the level of failure of this game makes fallout 76 look like a mild disappointment I don't think that's possible considering how bad F76 is. Fallout 76 at least let you into the game to play.
Anthem, when you can get in does have a more stable frame rate (on PS4 at least). But Anthem just barely functions. It won't load missions. Their website does not work.
Here's the ongoing saga of my experience with the "demo":
12 out of 30 attempts to actually log in to the game.
1 out of 12 attempts to actually load a mission.
Anthems website still says I don't have access to the VIP demo to get friend codes.
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Post by OdanUrr on Jan 26, 2019 14:37:47 GMT
I don't think that's possible considering how bad F76 is. Fallout 76 at least let you into the game to play. Touché.
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Post by Kroitz on Jan 26, 2019 14:38:54 GMT
I don't think that's possible considering how bad F76 is. Fallout 76 at least let you into the game to play.
Anthem, when you can get in does have a more stable frame rate (on PS4 at least). But Anthem just barely functions. It won't load missions. Their website does not work.
Here's the ongoing saga of my experience with the "demo":
12 out of 30 attempts to actually log in to the game.
1 out of 12 attempts to actually load a mission.
Anthems website still says I don't have access to the VIP demo to get friend codes.
That is probably intentional. When the servers can't handle the current load it would be unwise to open the gates further. Maybe they extend the VIP demo and give friend codes out again when the problems are solved.
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Post by monkeylungs on Jan 26, 2019 14:39:16 GMT
Fallout 76 at least let you into the game to play. Touché. I couldn't handle the inconsistent and low frame rate on PS4 though ... maybe it's fixed?
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Post by monkeylungs on Jan 26, 2019 14:40:19 GMT
Fallout 76 at least let you into the game to play.
Anthem, when you can get in does have a more stable frame rate (on PS4 at least). But Anthem just barely functions. It won't load missions. Their website does not work.
Here's the ongoing saga of my experience with the "demo":
12 out of 30 attempts to actually log in to the game.
1 out of 12 attempts to actually load a mission.
Anthems website still says I don't have access to the VIP demo to get friend codes.
That is probably intentional. When the servers can't handle the current load it would be unwise to open the gates further. Maybe they extend the VIP demo and give friend codes out again when the problems are solved.
About to find out. I am on hold with a customer service chat app for EA.
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Post by Shinobu on Jan 26, 2019 14:49:16 GMT
I've watched some gameplay of the Anthem demo, but the enemies don't say anything at all from what I've seen, not even a taunt? Whatever happened to stuff like "Go,Go,Go", "I will destroy you", or "Enemies everywhere" from ME1? The Loki toasters making notes about the shots hitting it, Mercs screaming their lungs out, Geth toasters making clicking sounds, & Harbinger mocking you in ME2? Cerberus troops saying "taking casualties", "medic", "grab cover", reacting to getting hit, & knocked down, Reapers like Marauder Shields doing weird noises while doing specific actions, Brutes chest pounding, & the Banshee's signature scream in ME3? I didn't hear any enemies saying stuff during the moment to moment action in the game from what I've watched. The enemies you face feel pretty lifeless, no different from a standup target that can shoot/fight back. As a design choice I agree with you.
There does seem to be a lore reason for it, though. From reading the Codex (called Cortex) in the demo it appears the scars are not individual beings but collections of insect-like organisms that group together to mimic life forms they encounter. These scars encountered humans, so they form vaguely humanoid shapes. I can't account for why they seem to have hands, or build humanoid type buildings. Or wear clothes. Probably they were made this way to make them feel more "alien" -- you can't converse with a sack of roaches, after all; but I'm not sure having this explanation makes things better.
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Post by monkeylungs on Jan 26, 2019 15:13:03 GMT
Fallout 76 at least let you into the game to play.
Anthem, when you can get in does have a more stable frame rate (on PS4 at least). But Anthem just barely functions. It won't load missions. Their website does not work.
Here's the ongoing saga of my experience with the "demo":
12 out of 30 attempts to actually log in to the game.
1 out of 12 attempts to actually load a mission.
Anthems website still says I don't have access to the VIP demo to get friend codes.
That is probably intentional. When the servers can't handle the current load it would be unwise to open the gates further. Maybe they extend the VIP demo and give friend codes out again when the problems are solved.
Not intentional. Website glitch. Customer service from EA Chat very helpful. Wait times yesterday were too long to sit through. This morning was only 45 minutes.
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Post by samhain444 on Jan 26, 2019 15:54:33 GMT
I think his rant summarizes why we have a skepticism thread. From day 1 I've been saying this game was going to be a destiny/warframe clone, and here we are lol. I implore anyone who can cancel their pre-order to do it and wait for a discount or at least wait for more reviews. It's not a clone of either...but, sure
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Post by monkeylungs on Jan 26, 2019 17:22:54 GMT
It is pretty similar to both to be fair. It certainly doesn't feel like it is breaking new ground. I don't mind that through, I'm down for a looter shooter in a Bioware created universe. I just want it to work.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Jan 26, 2019 17:44:30 GMT
I've watched some gameplay of the Anthem demo, but the enemies don't say anything at all from what I've seen, not even a taunt? Whatever happened to stuff like "Go,Go,Go", "I will destroy you", or "Enemies everywhere" from ME1? The Loki toasters making notes about the shots hitting it, Mercs screaming their lungs out, Geth toasters making clicking sounds, & Harbinger mocking you in ME2? Cerberus troops saying "taking casualties", "medic", "grab cover", reacting to getting hit, & knocked down, Reapers like Marauder Shields doing weird noises while doing specific actions, Brutes chest pounding, & the Banshee's signature scream in ME3? I didn't hear any enemies saying stuff during the moment to moment action in the game from what I've watched. The enemies you face feel pretty lifeless, no different from a standup target that can shoot/fight back. Well, that's disappointing. Especially considering that with ME3 they got this SO right. Enemies all had their unique voices, weird sounds, hilarious death screams like the Nemesis. Hundreds of hours later this stuff would still crack me up. The Marauder creep "giggle" haunts my dreams. You could hear them coming around the corner. Like the metallic movement of the Ravager legs. The disappointing enemy variety and lack of individuality and lackluster sound design was one of my main complaints about MEA combat. Don't tell me Edmonton is now forgetting things they used to do right too?? My download still has 6 hours to go but I can already tell this game is not for me. ME3 will remain magic in a bottle. The only MP experience I enjoyed. I will say a big reason for this was my emotional attachment to the setting and the different species. Being able to play so distinctly different aliens was pure joy. MEA was much inferior even if combat was the most competent aspect of the game and fun enough. But no biotic boom. No weight to anything you did. Enemies didn't respond to attacks. They were a faceless mob to me. DAI had disappointing weightless combat too. Extremely flashy looking but boring as hell. So I wonder what's up with Bioware since Frostbite...
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Post by monkeylungs on Jan 26, 2019 17:49:15 GMT
Death animations in Anthem are pretty lackluster.
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Post by monkeylungs on Jan 26, 2019 17:51:32 GMT
ME3 Biotic Boom is my favorite sound effect from any game, ever.
The person that created that sound effect is a genius and a hero!
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Post by Hrulj on Jan 26, 2019 18:05:30 GMT
Welp it got shat on yesterday. Great showing Bioware. Can't wait gor micro transactions to be unveiled. Hopefully the gane fails and Bioware goes back to ME1 model or gets bought out by someone else
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Post by General Mahad on Jan 26, 2019 18:26:24 GMT
???
This is not edited nor voice modified, it does sound exactly what the Elite Luminary said especially up close.
BioWare should modify the voice file before this gets more attention and they get labeled as racists.
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Post by Abramsrunner on Jan 26, 2019 18:42:12 GMT
Here I was wondering where the enemy dialogue was, & it comes in the hilarious form of yelling distorted profanities at players.
5/7 biowerpls
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Post by correctamundo on Jan 26, 2019 18:52:28 GMT
I think his rant summarizes why we have a skepticism thread. From day 1 I've been saying this game was going to be a destiny/warframe clone, and here we are lol. I implore anyone who can cancel their pre-order to do it and wait for a discount or at least wait for more reviews.
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Post by giubba on Jan 26, 2019 19:27:40 GMT
I think his rant summarizes why we have a skepticism thread. From day 1 I've been saying this game was going to be a destiny/warframe clone, and here we are lol. I implore anyone who can cancel their pre-order to do it and wait for a discount or at least wait for more reviews. Dat Bruce Lee meme
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Jan 26, 2019 19:46:43 GMT
Sigh. The same weapon balance issues at launch in MEA are present in Anthem for the demo. Assault Rifles are piss weak and feel like shit. Single shot rifles, shotguns and hand cannons, on the other hand, feel great. Assault rifles have STUNK in pretty well every bioware game, compared to other stuff, no doubt about it it is a trend. annoying. Agreed. A lot of variety for not very much fun. Whereas I fucking loved the G3 and L85 in BF2, and the M16 in BF3. Though tbh, at least the Remnant Sweeper was fun in MEA. No ammo reload, just overheat, like the good old days. But I played a full Biotic and between the badass shotgun and sniper rifle and my biotic abilities, I rarely needed to use my assault rifle.
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Post by Gileadan on Jan 26, 2019 20:23:07 GMT
The flashes and screen shakes are terrible.
If you have a tendency for migraines or photosensitivity, avoid Anthem.
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Post by Camel on Jan 26, 2019 20:24:15 GMT
I think his rant summarizes why we have a skepticism thread. From day 1 I've been saying this game was going to be a destiny/warframe clone, and here we are lol. I implore anyone who can cancel their pre-order to do it and wait for a discount or at least wait for more reviews. People should be slapped for filming vertical videos.
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Post by Sartoz on Jan 26, 2019 20:51:35 GMT
I'll give you this. Login and code authentication issues negatively impacts the player's perception of the game... something outside Bio's control. Networking and lag issues also.
On the other hand, "focusing on the visuals", in hindsight, was a bad decision. Enemies are basically silent, small and not memorable (as in DA:I)... remember ME3MP?
My decision to wait until this game goes on a fire sale, was correct.
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