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Post by lennybusker on Feb 4, 2019 21:23:35 GMT
The only people this game is going to completely satisfy are the BioWare Faith Militant, or folks whose criticism of games never reaches beyond "I like games! Games are good." Really? We’re back to dividing the world into just two teams? The BFM are the ones bitching about it not being a true Bioware game. And that group is dwarfed by the Anthem Faith Militant, who decided a while ago that the game was perfect and any criticism is just EA hate. A good number of AFM I’ve encountered on Reddit have never played a Bioware game in their lives, or only Mass Effect. I’m not in any of those groups. I’m sold on the game, but it’s clearly not perfect. I didn’t pre-order and I won’t be able to play at launch anyway, so I don’t have any choice but to take a wait and see approach. I think I’ll enjoy the game, but I’m also willing to change my mind and decide that it’s too flawed, but only after I’ve given the full release a fair try. Well whatever you want to call them the group definitely exists. Whether or not they're devout believers in Anthem vis a vis BioWare or simply Anthem itself is not really a material difference.
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Post by 3y3vr3 on Feb 4, 2019 21:31:01 GMT
That's asking too much from Bioware. Remember what they said about MEA beta? They said the game was so thoroughly tested through internal play that they didn't think there was a need for beta...well we all know the result... IIRC, they were talking about the multiplayer specifically. Was MEAMP unusually buggy on launch? (serious question; never bothered to play the MP) Yes I should have been more accurate. It was MEAMP beta that got cancelled. MP had a lot of technical issues on launch. Online connection performance was very poor with a lot of rubber banding, lagging, host migrations...Objectives malfunctioned so there was no way to proceed the match. Fiend could teleport like a ninja and grab you through walls and roof. Headshots didn't register...They fixed some problems in later patches, but there were some annoying technical bugs that never got fixed before support ended. The whole MP experience felt like a beta test which ended prematurely before it could see its full release.
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Post by hawkspian on Feb 4, 2019 21:53:20 GMT
I'm sure I saw one of them ash videos and she said if you play the missions solo an AI javelin comes with you. It's a video I watched about 3 weeks ago. Someone has all the ash videos here so it'll be in one of them. it definitely was not in the demos No I know. I remember her saying, "when you don't play with a squad, the game gives you an AI controlled friend who keeps you company in the dark dungeons" or something along those lines.
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Post by Pounce de León on Feb 4, 2019 23:21:08 GMT
Well, there is enough to complain about I feel. From progress throttling to nickel and diming and all kinds of other MP issues. But SP isn't really, when it's designed for 4 players. Yes it is.
BioWare confirmed solo play, I expect a meaty solo play experience.
Solo play doesnt equate to SP. You just play the MP content solo. That is all.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 5, 2019 1:41:07 GMT
Yes it is.
BioWare confirmed solo play, I expect a meaty solo play experience.
Solo play doesnt equate to SP. You just play the MP content solo. That is all. And that is acceptable for you??
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 5, 2019 1:44:38 GMT
it definitely was not in the demos No I know. I remember her saying, "when you don't play with a squad, the game gives you an AI controlled friend who keeps you company in the dark dungeons" or something along those lines. I dont want company I want an AI controlled ally who will actually DO something not just banter and point out the obvious
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Post by monkeylungs on Feb 5, 2019 3:04:32 GMT
No I know. I remember her saying, "when you don't play with a squad, the game gives you an AI controlled friend who keeps you company in the dark dungeons" or something along those lines. I dont want company I want an AI controlled ally who will actually DO something not just banter and point out the obvious I think the game should have a full blown single player mode. Let us decide which mode we want to play. Segregate online from offline characters to avoid save game tampering.
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Post by cankiie on Feb 5, 2019 5:25:48 GMT
From what I have heard from reviewers. The game is better with friends. Mind you, those would be the same reviewers that tend to bash the phrase "The game is better with friends" Because as it stands, even hurling poop is a funny activity with friends. In this case they justify the phrase with the simple fact, it is clear as day that the game is designed to be played in a party from the way the mechs operate, and how the mobs operate... and to be honest, that is fair I think. Not every single game has to be a single player only title. True, but if the developers say that is can be done completely solo then we expect a meaty single player experience.
You know, what BioWare is famous and beloved for? There are multiple problems. The people currently at bioware are not the same people from years ago. Furthermore, it is obvious that EA has a far tighter grip on Bioware as a studio and I have a feeling that the creation of Anthem in Bioware was not a Bioware decision, but an EA decision. We know EA's stance on single-player titles, they think it is a dying trend which sells poorly and some people have eaten that up raw... the statement is the worst form of bullshit. But we know their stance on it, so it only makes sense that they'll slowly drive the entirety of the Bioware studio into the 'online multiplayer only games' There are extremely valid reasons as to why people are just not fond of EA as a publishing company, I am surprised people keep forgetting that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 5:31:22 GMT
From what I have heard from reviewers. The game is better with friends. Mind you, those would be the same reviewers that tend to bash the phrase "The game is better with friends" Because as it stands, even hurling poop is a funny activity with friends. In this case they justify the phrase with the simple fact, it is clear as day that the game is designed to be played in a party from the way the mechs operate, and how the mobs operate... and to be honest, that is fair I think. Not every single game has to be a single player only title. Uh, it's the exact opposite for me, especially when the entire gaming library this gen is OVER-SATURATED with MP-only games.
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Post by cankiie on Feb 5, 2019 5:49:36 GMT
From what I have heard from reviewers. The game is better with friends. Mind you, those would be the same reviewers that tend to bash the phrase "The game is better with friends" Because as it stands, even hurling poop is a funny activity with friends. In this case they justify the phrase with the simple fact, it is clear as day that the game is designed to be played in a party from the way the mechs operate, and how the mobs operate... and to be honest, that is fair I think. Not every single game has to be a single player only title. Uh, it's the exact opposite for me, especially when the entire gaming library this gen is OVER-SATURATED with MP-only games. Whilst EA's statement that single-player games sells poorly is absolutely bullshit. A more factually correct statement they could have made is that MP-only games has the potential to generate a lot more money. I am not surprised this is the route the gaming industry has ended up in. People sitting at the top in these companies are usually people who are looking to make the quickest and easiest buck, and all of the money is in multiplayer and microtransactions... sadly. It seems though, that many people are starting to slowly wake up to what the heck is happening to their hobby. Still not enough, but more and more people are coming around. It might end up being too late though, companies have already started huge lay-offs, game developers losing their jobs etc. Not because people do not buy their games, but because relying on microtransactions which companies such as Activision, EA and Ubisoft does, is just not a sustainable form of income.
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Post by Pounce de León on Feb 5, 2019 7:52:13 GMT
Solo play doesnt equate to SP. You just play the MP content solo. That is all. And that is acceptable for you?? Why wouldn't it. It's a MP game after all.
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Post by General Mahad on Feb 5, 2019 7:57:21 GMT
Yes it is.
BioWare confirmed solo play, I expect a meaty solo play experience.
Solo play doesnt equate to SP. You just play the MP content solo. That is all. Nice try, but I expect meaty single player content and nothing you say will convince me otherwise.
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Post by monkeylungs on Feb 5, 2019 8:00:44 GMT
Solo play doesnt equate to SP. You just play the MP content solo. That is all. Nice try, but I expect meaty single player content and nothing you say will convince me otherwise.
If they actually cared about the solo player they would have included a way to play single player offline.
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Post by Pounce de León on Feb 5, 2019 8:19:22 GMT
Solo play doesnt equate to SP. You just play the MP content solo. That is all. Nice try, but I expect meaty single player content and nothing you say will convince me otherwise.
I'm not here to convince anyone. Anthem is just not what you're looking for.
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Post by wright1978 on Feb 5, 2019 8:43:07 GMT
There are multiple problems. The people currently at bioware are not the same people from years ago. Furthermore, it is obvious that EA has a far tighter grip on Bioware as a studio and I have a feeling that the creation of Anthem in Bioware was not a Bioware decision, but an EA decision. I think it was very much bioware’s decision, like anyone they want to please the boss. Hence anthem. Personally I hope it isn’t a success.
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Post by NRieh on Feb 5, 2019 9:01:56 GMT
Personally I hope it isn’t a success. Would you rather see the rest of their studio following the MEA team footsteps? Me - not. Anthem is their milestone, and (unfortunately) too much is at stake here. I wish I could support them, but they had missed me (and the likes of me) as a target audience.
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Post by Hrulj on Feb 5, 2019 9:56:20 GMT
Personally I hope it isn’t a success. Would you rather see the rest of their studio following the MEA team footsteps? Me - not. Anthem is their milestone, and (unfortunately) too much is at stake here. I wish I could support them, but they had missed me (and the likes of me) as a target audience. I'd rather have them close than go down their current design path. Someone better can take up the torch
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Post by Kappa Neko on Feb 5, 2019 10:58:54 GMT
Tbh after the demo I've reached a level of disappointment where I now wish Anthem gets Bioware shut down. It's like watching a bird with broken wings. I want to take a shovel and end this pathetic situation.
I have no hope left for DA4 after certain tweets, and now that Edmonton pulled an Andromeda 2.0 light I've written them off as beyond help. They've learned nothing from DAI's and MEA's shortcomings as far as I'm concerned.
I know it's petty but I'll be honest about it. Like FO76, I'll laugh gleefully if it crashes and burns.
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Post by helios969 on Feb 5, 2019 11:06:57 GMT
Pretty brutal in here. I can't have what I want so I hope thousands of people lose their jobs...doesn't sound petty in the least.
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Post by Pounce de León on Feb 5, 2019 11:13:21 GMT
Pretty brutal in here. I can't have what I want so I hope thousands of people lose their jobs...doesn't sound petty in the least. Vocals, I wouldn't mind them so much. Me, I'm just not buying at launch. There are many alternatives.
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Post by isaidlunch on Feb 5, 2019 11:27:29 GMT
I'd definitely feel disgusted if Anthem succeeds with the state that it's in. It's unfortunate that Bioware's in this situation, but they've done this to themselves.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Feb 5, 2019 11:52:23 GMT
Too many skeptics and haters in this thread This game is a masterpiece
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Post by Kappa Neko on Feb 5, 2019 11:54:45 GMT
Pretty brutal in here. I can't have what I want so I hope thousands of people lose their jobs...doesn't sound petty in the least. I DID say it's petty, so no idea why you needed to point it out again. Doesn't change how I feel about Bioware now. It's not like I want to feel that way, you know.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Feb 5, 2019 12:02:02 GMT
So it seems NWN 1 vanilla is much more fun and has 30x replayability compared to Anthem the Ironman spin-off. Amirite?
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 5, 2019 12:05:04 GMT
And that is acceptable for you?? Why wouldn't it. It's a MP game after all. and yet it was marketed to me specifically saying that not only I could play it solo but that it would scale and be enjoyable for me and that it would feel like a proper Bioware game. It was marketed dating it would have something for all crowd..not that the single player crowd would be second class citizens... Again This game needs to fail...very VERY publicly and undoubtedly like FO76
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