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Post by Gileadan on Feb 6, 2019 11:28:21 GMT
Now that the pilot skill trees apparently got cut, I remembered something else that was in the trailers but not in the demos and, as far as I remember, hasn't been mentioned in a while: the Strider, that four legged walker meant to serve as a mobile headquarters. Has it been seen anywhere since the early trailers? Is it confirmed that they're cut? According to the reddit-link in the OP of this thread, they're gone. www.reddit.com/r/AnthemTheGame/comments/anlasz/no_more_pilot_skill_tree/
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2019 11:37:21 GMT
I've even tried to goad people into posting, but nothing. Instead all the fanboys are in here picking fights xD The hype is dead, long live the hype The game tries to cater to shooter-looter players, and people who enjoy the usual bioware games are biting into it too thinking that it will be like the usual bioware game (Really? Just wtf) Actually the Demo did a very bad job to convince the traditional Bioware fans that Anthem will be also a traditional Bioware game they could enjoy. I notice way more Bioware fans disappointed than positive about Anthem, not at all attracted. What in that demo was supposed to show them it was for them too actually ? Not much.
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Post by saandrig on Feb 6, 2019 11:42:23 GMT
Well, they punked out on the nice GM3 difficulty. I imagine GM1 and 2 are toned back down as well, that would explain why IGN said they played GM1 at like 150% enemy damage. There are so many ways I can interpret this, most of them not for good. But we better hear more first. These things are easy to tweak at any time and much more difficulty levels can be added. However here is a thought - BW figured the hardest difficulty requires gear that would take far too much grind to acquire. And since there is very little content to grind on, people will just quit instead of doing the same 3 limited activities. So in a sense they shorten the time to reach the highest difficulty and can gradually add more GM levels later to keep the grind going.
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Post by lennybusker on Feb 6, 2019 11:46:09 GMT
Well, they punked out on the nice GM3 difficulty. I imagine GM1 and 2 are toned back down as well, that would explain why IGN said they played GM1 at like 150% enemy damage. There are so many ways I can interpret this, most of them not for good. But we better hear more first. These things are easy to tweak at any time and much more difficulty levels can be added. However here is a thought - BW figured the hardest difficulty requires gear that would take far too much grind to acquire. And since there is very little content to grind on, people will just quit instead of doing the same 3 limited activities. So in a sense they shorten the time to reach the highest difficulty and can gradually add more GM levels later to keep the grind going. Either that, or they just threw the GM numbers out there before they really even got around to testing it. I don't think games go through much playtesting anymore. But yeah, it's likely that the difficulty system will be tweaked and added to as the game goes on.
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Post by cankiie on Feb 6, 2019 11:49:01 GMT
The game tries to cater to shooter-looter players, and people who enjoy the usual bioware games are biting into it too thinking that it will be like the usual bioware game (Really? Just wtf) Actually the Demo did a very bad job to convince the traditional Bioware fans that Anthem will be also a traditional Bioware game they could enjoy. I notice way more Bioware fans disappointed than positive about Anthem, not at all attracted. What in that demo was supposed to show them it was for them too actually ? Not much. It was kinda my point Might be my terrible placement of commas and such. But what I meant with that sentence is, that I found it weird that people who are into the usual bioware games somehow thought that Anthem would be a game for them because it is a game developed by bioware. It has long been obvious that Anthem is in no way the typical Bioware game, that many people have come to love. To fewer people it is also known that Bioware is not the same studio that most started loving either.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 6, 2019 12:55:52 GMT
Actually the Demo did a very bad job to convince the traditional Bioware fans that Anthem will be also a traditional Bioware game they could enjoy. I notice way more Bioware fans disappointed than positive about Anthem, not at all attracted. What in that demo was supposed to show them it was for them too actually ? Not much. It was kinda my point Might be my terrible placement of commas and such. But what I meant with that sentence is, that I found it weird that people who are into the usual bioware games somehow thought that Anthem would be a game for them because it is a game developed by bioware. It has long been obvious that Anthem is in no way the typical Bioware game, that many people have come to love. To fewer people it is also known that Bioware is not the same studio that most started loving either. notice how no Bioware rep is pushing the "this will dry much feel like a traditional Bioware game " anylonger? Gee I wonder why
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Post by shinobiwan on Feb 6, 2019 13:01:25 GMT
There are so many ways I can interpret this, most of them not for good. But we better hear more first. These things are easy to tweak at any time and much more difficulty levels can be added. However here is a thought - BW figured the hardest difficulty requires gear that would take far too much grind to acquire. And since there is very little content to grind on, people will just quit instead of doing the same 3 limited activities. So in a sense they shorten the time to reach the highest difficulty and can gradually add more GM levels later to keep the grind going. Either that, or they just threw the GM numbers out there before they really even got around to testing it. I don't think games go through much playtesting anymore. But yeah, it's likely that the difficulty system will be tweaked and added to as the game goes on. They might have concurrently cut back on item bonuses across the board. We really have no idea. It was an arbitrary number without context. There are lots of things that cause concern but this isn't really one of them.
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Post by regack on Feb 6, 2019 13:34:31 GMT
But what I meant with that sentence is, that I found it weird that people who are into the usual bioware games somehow thought that Anthem would be a game for them because it is a game developed by bioware. It has long been obvious that Anthem is in no way the typical Bioware game, that many people have come to love. To fewer people it is also known that Bioware is not the same studio that most started loving either. I get that, I tried the demo(s) anyway, just to see if there was something else that interested me. I did have fun flying around and slicing things up, but not ENOUGH fun. I think the last point is probably the most important though. BioWare today (or even the BioWare of 7 years ago) is not the BioWare of yore.
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Post by Sartoz on Feb 6, 2019 13:49:42 GMT
Hm... Since EA stock price tanked 17% the company execs must now placate the cocaine nose jobs in Wall Street to the detriment of EA gamers.
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Post by majesticjazz on Feb 6, 2019 14:16:07 GMT
Hm... Since EA stock price tanked 17% the company execs must now placate the cocaine nose jobs in Wall Street to the detriment of EA gamers.
www.thestreet.com/markets/electronic-arts-sinks-after-issuing-disappointing-guidance-14857246?puc=CNBC&cm_ven=CNBCNot sure what that means for Anthem long term in terms of MTXs. Like I keep saying, the intent behind GaaS is the post launch revenue; that is where they make their money. The foundation of the game is built around enticing people into MTXs. I mean, if it didnt....what would be the purpose? Considering how desperate EA may feel, how aggressive/passive will they be with Anthem MTX pricing?
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Post by shinobiwan on Feb 6, 2019 14:51:11 GMT
Hm... Since EA stock price tanked 17% the company execs must now placate the cocaine nose jobs in Wall Street to the detriment of EA gamers.
www.thestreet.com/markets/electronic-arts-sinks-after-issuing-disappointing-guidance-14857246?puc=CNBC&cm_ven=CNBCNot sure what that means for Anthem long term in terms of MTXs. Like I keep saying, the intent behind GaaS is the post launch revenue; that is where they make their money. The foundation of the game is built around enticing people into MTXs. I mean, if it didnt....what would be the purpose? Considering how desperate EA may feel, how aggressive/passive will they be with Anthem MTX pricing? I'm certainly not a fan of EA but I'm more optimistic. I think they learned the hard way that exploitive mtx models, while nice in the short term, are not effective long term when people begin abandoning the brand. They do seem to be pivoting, but we'll see. Be careful when citing stock prices, a lot of the downturn is attributable to an overall downturn across the entire tech sector, not limited to game companies.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 6, 2019 14:58:46 GMT
Hm... Since EA stock price tanked 17% the company execs must now placate the cocaine nose jobs in Wall Street to the detriment of EA gamers.
www.thestreet.com/markets/electronic-arts-sinks-after-issuing-disappointing-guidance-14857246?puc=CNBC&cm_ven=CNBCNot sure what that means for Anthem long term in terms of MTXs. Like I keep saying, the intent behind GaaS is the post launch revenue; that is where they make their money. The foundation of the game is built around enticing people into MTXs. I mean, if it didnt....what would be the purpose? Considering how desperate EA may feel, how aggressive/passive will they be with Anthem MTX pricing? problem is...until the model collapses and EA loses big money they will keep monetizing as much as they can That is another reason why Anthem needs to fail in my opinion. Of course, look at the way they took the failure of BF5 and you'll see they only see what they want to see
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Post by cankiie on Feb 6, 2019 15:18:22 GMT
I'm certainly not a fan of EA but I'm more optimistic. I think they learned the hard way that exploitive mtx models, while nice in the short term, are not effective long term when people begin abandoning the brand. They do seem to be pivoting, but we'll see. Be careful when citing stock prices, a lot of the downturn is attributable to an overall downturn across the entire tech sector, not limited to game companies. I think EA is blaming potential poor Anthem sales on potential competition out in the world. I don't know if they just say stuff to try and somehow give an excuse to their shareholders, or if they are genuinely unaware of why people dislike them as much as they do.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 6, 2019 15:19:33 GMT
I'm certainly not a fan of EA but I'm more optimistic. I think they learned the hard way that exploitive mtx models, while nice in the short term, are not effective long term when people begin abandoning the brand. They do seem to be pivoting, but we'll see. Be careful when citing stock prices, a lot of the downturn is attributable to an overall downturn across the entire tech sector, not limited to game companies. I think EA is blaming potential poor Anthem sales on potential competition out in the world. I don't know if they just say stuff to try and somehow give an excuse to their shareholders, or if they are genuinely unaware of why people dislike them as much as they do. Uhm...they blamed BF5 poor reception on lack of battle royal
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2019 15:23:51 GMT
I think EA is blaming potential poor Anthem sales on potential competition out in the world. I don't know if they just say stuff to try and somehow give an excuse to their shareholders, or if they are genuinely unaware of why people dislike them as much as they do. Uhm...they blamed BF5 poor reception on lack of battle royal And dev's focus on single player campaign...
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Post by cankiie on Feb 6, 2019 15:24:10 GMT
I think EA is blaming potential poor Anthem sales on potential competition out in the world. I don't know if they just say stuff to try and somehow give an excuse to their shareholders, or if they are genuinely unaware of why people dislike them as much as they do. Uhm...they blamed BF5 poor reception on lack of battle royal They might be genuinely unaware of what the hell is happening So I won't really expect things to change, at all.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 6, 2019 15:26:24 GMT
Uhm...they blamed BF5 poor reception on lack of battle royal And dev's focus on single player campaign... oh God yes I forgot that Because you know calling your fans ignorant for pointing out the obvious in order to appeal to the sjw crowd was an amazing move too right?
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Post by Pounce de León on Feb 6, 2019 15:26:35 GMT
Uhm...they blamed BF5 poor reception on lack of battle royal And dev's focus on single player campaign... Corporate narration.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 6, 2019 15:27:06 GMT
Uhm...they blamed BF5 poor reception on lack of battle royal They might be genuinely unaware of what the hell is happening So I won't really expect things to change, at all. hence why the need for failure
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2019 15:47:53 GMT
And dev's focus on single player campaign... oh God yes I forgot that Because you know calling your fans ignorant for pointing out the obvious in order to appeal to the sjw crowd was an amazing move too right? EA's marketting : " There are people who are uneducated. And we don't take any flak. we stand up for the cause. You have two choices, either accept it or don't buy the game. I 'm fine with either. " Players: WTF did you do with the franchise full of bullshit, it's the second world war for fuck sake, not fortnite. ! EA : Women are a part of the game, we stand for the cause, you players are uneducated and ignorant. If you don't like it, don't buy it. the gamers : okay. EA : eeeeer. WAIT !
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Feb 6, 2019 15:52:23 GMT
That last part is not true, and the article doesn't say anything like that. What is true is that you can't solo Strongholds. You can attain the endgame, but you have to play with other players to grind that part of the endgame. If I'm not mistaken, you still can solo Legendary Contracts, which are also part of the endgame.
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Post by degs29 on Feb 6, 2019 16:00:35 GMT
After playing the Anthem demo, I'm now back on the fence (after previously being increasingly interested). I wasn't aware you'd be forced to partner up. Granted, I haven't followed this game as closely as I would other Bioware games, and maybe that's been known for some time. Couple that with the fact that the world is empty from a narrative POV, being lacking in NPCs, and I may just pass after all. Most of my real enjoyment was from the interactions in the hub world which, unfortunately, is a limited part of the game. It's funny because I've played mass effect 1 and 2 maybe 30+ times between them, I only ever watched the cut scenes and didn't skip conversations once per paragon/renegade run. Every other time I would skip the dialog so I could get back to fighting. The reason I don't play mass effects anymore is because I can't face all the talking. Anthem is right up my street. It sure is! Seems like the perfect game for you.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Feb 6, 2019 16:02:48 GMT
There are so many ways I can interpret this, most of them not for good. But we better hear more first. These things are easy to tweak at any time and much more difficulty levels can be added. However here is a thought - BW figured the hardest difficulty requires gear that would take far too much grind to acquire. And since there is very little content to grind on, people will just quit instead of doing the same 3 limited activities. So in a sense they shorten the time to reach the highest difficulty and can gradually add more GM levels later to keep the grind going. Either that, or they just threw the GM numbers out there before they really even got around to testing it. IKR? I don't get that at all. Most of the complaints I saw about the Stronghold in the demo was that it was too easy, not that it was too hard. Of course, that was only on Hard difficulty, so shrug?
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Feb 6, 2019 16:07:45 GMT
I've even tried to goad people into posting, but nothing. Instead all the fanboys are in here picking fights xD The hype is dead, long live the hype Yeah, I suppose the thread could be more on point and about skepticism towards Anthem had it not been for the people coming in and picking fights, this resulting in a total derail. Agreed. There's been a lot of that lately -- makes me cringe, tbh. I think one hype rejoinder is allowed, as per mods, and maybe one rebuttal, but then, stfu ffs. If I get out of line, you guys call me on it, and I'll drop it.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 6, 2019 16:22:42 GMT
oh God yes I forgot that Because you know calling your fans ignorant for pointing out the obvious in order to appeal to the sjw crowd was an amazing move too right? EA's marketting : " There are people who are uneducated. And we don't take any flak. we stand up for the cause. You have two choices, either accept it or don't buy the game. I 'm fine with either. " Players: WTF did you do with the franchise full of bullshit, it's the second world war for fuck sake, not fortnite. ! EA : Women are a part of the game, we stand for the cause, you players are uneducated and ignorant. If you don't like it, don't buy it. the gamers : okay. EA : eeeeer. WAIT !
lol yeah...makes me laugh every time
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