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Post by monkeylungs on Feb 6, 2019 16:49:29 GMT
Apex Legends in game store is up for all to see.
The skeptic in me wonders how much, if at all, cheaper will Anthem's in game store items be?
Skins in Apex Legends ... not too far off the 20USD mark.
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Post by Pounce de León on Feb 6, 2019 16:51:37 GMT
Apex Legends in game store is up for all to see. The skeptic in me wonders how much, if at all, cheaper will Anthem's in game store items be? Skins in Apex Legends ... not too far off the 20USD mark. It's F2P so higher mtx prices are to expect.
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Post by shinobiwan on Feb 6, 2019 16:55:07 GMT
Apex Legends in game store is up for all to see. The skeptic in me wonders how much, if at all, cheaper will Anthem's in game store items be? Skins in Apex Legends ... not too far off the 20USD mark. It's F2P so higher mtx prices are to expect. That would make sense but we'll see where anthems prices land lol.
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Post by monkeylungs on Feb 6, 2019 16:56:01 GMT
Apex Legends in game store is up for all to see. The skeptic in me wonders how much, if at all, cheaper will Anthem's in game store items be? Skins in Apex Legends ... not too far off the 20USD mark. It's F2P so higher mtx prices are to expect. Sure higher prices, expected ... remains to be seen though. It is however a more concrete starting point for conversation. I am personally skeptical they will cut the prices by too much. I'm guessing market research shows people pay those amounts?
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Post by Pounce de León on Feb 6, 2019 17:04:13 GMT
It's F2P so higher mtx prices are to expect. Sure higher prices, expected ... remains to be seen though. It is however a more concrete starting point for conversation. I am personally skeptical they will cut the prices by too much. I'm guessing market research shows people pay those amounts? I dunno. I only buy such stuff after playing and determining whether the game is worth it. Once I deem the game worthy the price isn't really such a big matter unless I want several items. If I don't care much I pick a nice one and buy it. Factor is that it costs a chunk so I need not do 15 purchases to fill up what I'm willing to pay.
e.g. I played "Fractured Space" - you can barely see other ppls skins anyway. so i dint bother. Played several months, deemed it very good game. Looked at a skin I'd never bought, but it's value made sense for shifting money "I would have bought this game for" over.
I think that's a thing, too. Not all items are considered for day-to-day purchase. Some is just a chunkier piece so you need not pay in small change and do 15 clicks for showing appreciation.
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Post by monkeylungs on Feb 6, 2019 17:14:09 GMT
Sure higher prices, expected ... remains to be seen though. It is however a more concrete starting point for conversation. I am personally skeptical they will cut the prices by too much. I'm guessing market research shows people pay those amounts? I dunno. I only buy such stuff after playing and determining whether the game is worth it. Once I deem the game worthy the price isn't really such a big matter unless I want several items. If I don't care much I pick a nice one and buy it. Factor is that it costs a chunk so I need not do 15 purchases to fill up what I'm willing to pay.
e.g. I played "Fractured Space" - you can barely see other ppls skins anyway. so i dint bother. Played several months, deemed it very good game. Looked at a skin I'd never bought, but it's value made sense for shifting money "I would have bought this game for" over.
I think that's a thing, too. Not all items are considered for day-to-day purchase. Some is just a chunkier piece so you need not pay in small change and do 15 clicks for showing appreciation.
So you think market research shows that people will pay those amounts, but not always for the same reasons and not always at the same frequency?
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Post by Pounce de León on Feb 6, 2019 17:21:36 GMT
I dunno. I only buy such stuff after playing and determining whether the game is worth it. Once I deem the game worthy the price isn't really such a big matter unless I want several items. If I don't care much I pick a nice one and buy it. Factor is that it costs a chunk so I need not do 15 purchases to fill up what I'm willing to pay.
e.g. I played "Fractured Space" - you can barely see other ppls skins anyway. so i dint bother. Played several months, deemed it very good game. Looked at a skin I'd never bought, but it's value made sense for shifting money "I would have bought this game for" over.
I think that's a thing, too. Not all items are considered for day-to-day purchase. Some is just a chunkier piece so you need not pay in small change and do 15 clicks for showing appreciation.
So you think market research shows that people will pay those amounts, but not always for the same reasons and not always at the same frequency? Ye. The point is having also small change stuff I'd say. And have the expensive stuff some quality. The skin in Fractured Space featured a lil runway with lil animated runway illumination. And it was for a hard to play healer ship, but I liked playing it. Simple palette mashups won't do for 10+ bucks. That's what customisation is tjere in the first place.
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Post by monkeylungs on Feb 6, 2019 17:35:16 GMT
I think the pricing will be pretty close to Apex Legends store prices. I don't see them charging any less than 10USD for Purple rarity or higher skins.
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Post by saandrig on Feb 7, 2019 7:36:14 GMT
Either that, or they just threw the GM numbers out there before they really even got around to testing it. IKR? I don't get that at all. Most of the complaints I saw about the Stronghold in the demo was that it was too easy, not that it was too hard. Of course, that was only on Hard difficulty, so shrug? Well, Hard was easy with the right team. Giubba can testify (he saw the ending) for my hardships when I backfilled a Normal run with 2 clueless level 10 Rangers, one of which had gear level of 50 points or below I think. So he had jumped right in from loading the game, no second weapon, no components. I never saw a single Ultimate from them, revived them both over 20 times and had to mostly solo the Spider boss. Pugs are awesome 😂 I like to believe both of the Rangers then went for a Hard run because they had Normal nailed already. Afterwards we did a Hard run with Giubba and it was 3x easier compared to that Normal nightmare. Competent players make things easy. Most people suck at playing though (just my personal Pug experiences over multiple MMOs). 😁
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Post by PillarBiter on Feb 7, 2019 7:51:31 GMT
IKR? I don't get that at all. Most of the complaints I saw about the Stronghold in the demo was that it was too easy, not that it was too hard. Of course, that was only on Hard difficulty, so shrug? Well, Hard was easy with the right team. Giubba can testify (he saw the ending) for my hardships when I backfilled a Normal run with 2 clueless level 10 Rangers, one of which had gear level of 50 points or below I think. So he had jumped right in from loading the game, no second weapon, no components. I never saw a single Ultimate from them, revived them both over 20 times and had to mostly solo the Spider boss. Pugs are awesome 😂 I like to believe both of the Rangers then went for a Hard run because they had Normal nailed already. Afterwards we did a Hard run with Giubba and it was 3x easier compared to that Normal nightmare. Competent players make things easy. Most people suck at playing though (just my personal Pug experiences over multiple MMOs). 😁 Yeah, this. A team of nincompoops can make easy difficulty your worst nightmare.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 9:04:32 GMT
Be careful when citing stock prices, a lot of the downturn is attributable to an overall downturn across the entire tech sector, not limited to game companies. Are you referring to the sharp downturn, which occurred yesterday, or more slow decline, which has been going on since October for the entire tech industry? If it's the latter, then it can be attributed almost singlehandedly to the general trend. Looking from last October, EA's stock development has mirrored pretty faithfully that of the NASDAQ composite index (if there's a better way to asses overall financial health of said industry, I'd like to hear it). However, this general trend has been turning around since January (if I recall, the bottom was somewhere around late December), and has been climbing back up steadily ever since. The former event, EA's stock drop yesterday went against the general tech market. Although, this was not limited solely to EA, but Activision, Take-Two, and Ubisoft all had very similar downturn to their stock value. Quick look at some others like Nintendo, and some smaller ones like CDPR have had similar although less sharp declines over last couple of days. Seems to be some general gaming trend (excluding some like Tencent, etc), though not tech industry wide one. I don't really have my finger on the pulse with this shit, so I wouldn't even start to speculate what's what exactly with this (Bloomberg analysis fingered it to increased competition, especially from Fortenite). Ofc, the real question is that this means, and what will come of it. At least I don't really see how this affects anything or anybody who isn't trading. Not short or long term (btw, this is no way triumphalist or any way endorsing EA or anybody. I am not personally very invested in the future of EA or AAA gaming or what have you, but if I had to give a honest estimate for their future, I'd say their prospects for the future are damn good. At least looking from a macro level. How or if this reflects to BioWare is somewhat unrelated matter).
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Post by Pounce de León on Feb 7, 2019 10:00:59 GMT
I think the pricing will be pretty close to Apex Legends store prices. I don't see them charging any less than 10USD for Purple rarity or higher skins. Which does seem to turn out a pretty good BR game. Interesting ideas and designs.
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Post by monkeylungs on Feb 7, 2019 14:30:44 GMT
I think the pricing will be pretty close to Apex Legends store prices. I don't see them charging any less than 10USD for Purple rarity or higher skins. Which does seem to turn out a pretty good BR game. Interesting ideas and designs. Yeah I think Respawn made a solid game. People that like BR seem to really like it.
EDIT: I thought it was pretty neato that my buddy didn't get infinite loading screens and disconnect after disconnect directly after launch. It was also swell how the game has a stable frame rate on PS4. Unlike Anthem, which runs like garbage.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 7, 2019 16:55:39 GMT
I was at a game store picking up a game to play. I asked the cashier if Anthem has a lot of pre-orders? She said yes. I would not be surprised if that's the same for other game stores in the area. As I've said before, I have no interest in the game, but do like for it to do well. So hearing about a lot of pre-orders, at least for that store, sounds promising for the game
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Feb 7, 2019 16:59:48 GMT
I was at a game store picking up a game to play. I asked the cashier if Anthem has a lot of pre-orders? She said yes. I would not be surprised if that's the same for other game stores in the area. As I've said before, I have no interest in the game, but do like for it to do well. So hearing about a lot of pre-orders, at least for that store, sounds promising for the game Honestly, I find that shocking, though it corroborates what Wilson said in the earnings call. It's shocking because it means 1) people who are not 100% digital are aware enough of the game to want to buy it, and 2) are willing enough to drive/bike/bus/walk to a store to plunk down money to pre-order it!
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Post by saandrig on Feb 7, 2019 17:16:21 GMT
I was at a game store picking up a game to play. I asked the cashier if Anthem has a lot of pre-orders? She said yes. I would not be surprised if that's the same for other game stores in the area. As I've said before, I have no interest in the game, but do like for it to do well. So hearing about a lot of pre-orders, at least for that store, sounds promising for the game Honestly, I find that shocking, though it corroborates what Wilson said in the earnings call. It's shocking because it means 1) people who are not 100% digital are aware enough of the game to want to buy it, and 2) are willing enough to drive/bike/bus/walk to a store to plunk down money to pre-order it! Thanks for making me feel like a lazy bum After trying very hard to recall the last game I didn't get digitally or got delivered to my front door... Honestly can't recall. Somewhere in the times of Jedi Academy since I remember picking that one while browsing for a new joystick (still works).
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Post by lennybusker on Feb 7, 2019 23:41:08 GMT
Here's some info we are learning from the AMA on Twitter. (Edit: updated with all Q&As from all three devs). www.reddit.com/r/AnthemTheGame/comments/ao5vse/what_we_learned_from_the_ama/(bolds are mine)
Mark Darrah No ability to do strongholds solo. (booooo)They are constantly adjusting the economy to earn cosmetics in a reasonable amount of time. They are looking into not interrupting javelin startup animation. They are looking into spectator cam while downed, but not for launch. Swappable melee weapons not available at launch. Freeplay will not be increased to the same number of players as launch bay. No PvP at launch. They are looking into adding waypoints after launch. (seriously? a non-waypointable map in an open world game? 7 years dev time.)Will not be able to change visor colors at launch. No photo mode at launch but acknowledged this is widely requested. Cosmetics include armors, emotes, banners, vinyls, and a few more things in development. No comment on more javelins at this time. Mass salvage option available in vault. Loot tables are biased toward the javelin you are wearing. Story missions do not require matchmaking. Iron Man skins would require a deal with Disney. Companions are not being considered for Anthem. Console players will have look inversion. Pilot character customization will be limited to a pre-generated list. The inherent nature of the game means PS4 Plus and Xbox Live are required. Choose your pilot's look only at the beginning of the game. Cannot switch between 1st and 3rd person. Demo players do not keep gear. Romances not being added at this time. There is dynamic time of day in game. Helena Tarsis' javelin predated Colossus so that doesn't necessarily mean Colossus gets a sword. If you want to be thicc boi like Colossus, do 100 pushups, 100 situps, 100 squats, and run 10K. Story missions will all have matchmaking option. More open world activities will be added over time. Visor, thruster, shield, and dagger colors are being looked into. There have been may balance changes since the demo fork. You'll be able to choose the launch bay or Fort Tarsis after an expedition. Chad Robertson Loads will be faster on launch than in the demo. There is not a hard ending with credits. The story will be continuous and evolving. Sponsored/branded or event vinyls will likely be part of the game. Freeplay will not have a private session option. (booooooo)AoE attacks will harm the cute Grabbits. That's the way it is. Save files can be carried over to next gen consoles. Drivers will be available for PC gamers to use PS4 controllers but it is not natively supported. They want to add more javelins in the future. Anthem will continue growing for years. Cataclysms are the aspiration content for teams, challenges, and top rewards. Plan on adding statistics to post expedition screen after launch. Ben Irving No training room. No locking equipment to prevent accidental deletion beyond the equipment equipped. Sprint speed increased in Ft. Tarsis, along with movement responsiveness and camera improvements. The issue in a stronghold when someone left with an objective (echo) and it stopped the team's progress has been resolved. Photo mode and weapon customization will not be added in the short term. Rather than a "vote kick", they are working on improving their AFK timers. Count on "raid level" content in the first year of the game. Teased the possibility of choosing ultimates down the line someday. Invites can be sent in game (but didn't really say if "join squad" would be an option). They are looking into other achievables like titles. Not looking at increasing freeplay squad more than 4 in the short term. A healer javelin is not likely because they focus on flexibility. You can uninstall the demo without fear of not getting your rewards for playing. No loot boxes for cosmetics. Guilds will not have a private social space at the launch of guilds. Some activities will only be available for a set time but could come back around. There are no plans to allow loadout change in the field. Cannot upgrade weapons, you'll have to get another one. Bosses will not have unique drops at launch. Cataclysms will be aspirational, meaningful, challenging, and the place to earn the best rewards. Patch notes will only be for changes made after Feb. 15. If you get booted from an activity, you'll get all the XP and loot up to that point. No elemental weapons or bullets at launch. May add later but they won't do combos. Vinyl colors cannot be changed. Javelins will not favor a gender in appearance. No weapons beyond legendary at launch. Setting up primer and detonators are all about your team make up and the difficulty of the content.
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Post by OdanUrr on Feb 8, 2019 0:13:54 GMT
If you want to be thicc boi like Colossus, do 100 pushups, 100 situps, 100 squats, and run 10K. Someone's a fan... How is it that they're still working on this? That sucks. Yes, well, let's wait and see, shall we? While this makes sense, I have been given no reason to believe (so far) the story will have some actual meat to it. Why not? Why have 1st person on Tarsis and 3rd everywhere else?
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Feb 8, 2019 0:20:19 GMT
Here's some info we are learning from the AMA on Twitter. (Edit: updated with all Q&As from all three devs). www.reddit.com/r/AnthemTheGame/comments/ao5vse/what_we_learned_from_the_ama/(bolds are mine)
Mark Darrah No ability to do strongholds solo. (booooo)They are constantly adjusting the economy to earn cosmetics in a reasonable amount of time. They are looking into not interrupting javelin startup animation. They are looking into spectator cam while downed, but not for launch. Swappable melee weapons not available at launch. Freeplay will not be increased to the same number of players as launch bay. No PvP at launch. They are looking into adding waypoints after launch. (seriously? a non-waypointable map in an open world game? 7 years dev time.)Will not be able to change visor colors at launch. No photo mode at launch but acknowledged this is widely requested. Cosmetics include armors, emotes, banners, vinyls, and a few more things in development. No comment on more javelins at this time. Mass salvage option available in vault. Loot tables are biased toward the javelin you are wearing. Story missions do not require matchmaking. Iron Man skins would require a deal with Disney. Companions are not being considered for Anthem. Console players will have look inversion. Pilot character customization will be limited to a pre-generated list. The inherent nature of the game means PS4 Plus and Xbox Live are required. Choose your pilot's look only at the beginning of the game. Cannot switch between 1st and 3rd person. Demo players do not keep gear. Romances not being added at this time. There is dynamic time of day in game. Helena Tarsis' javelin predated Colossus so that doesn't necessarily mean Colossus gets a sword. If you want to be thicc boi like Colossus, do 100 pushups, 100 situps, 100 squats, and run 10K. Story missions will all have matchmaking option. More open world activities will be added over time. Visor, thruster, shield, and dagger colors are being looked into. There have been may balance changes since the demo fork. You'll be able to choose the launch bay or Fort Tarsis after an expedition. Chad Robertson Loads will be faster on launch than in the demo. There is not a hard ending with credits. The story will be continuous and evolving. Sponsored/branded or event vinyls will likely be part of the game. Freeplay will not have a private session option. (booooooo)AoE attacks will harm the cute Grabbits. That's the way it is. Save files can be carried over to next gen consoles. Drivers will be available for PC gamers to use PS4 controllers but it is not natively supported. They want to add more javelins in the future. Anthem will continue growing for years. Cataclysms are the aspiration content for teams, challenges, and top rewards. Plan on adding statistics to post expedition screen after launch. Ben Irving No training room. No locking equipment to prevent accidental deletion beyond the equipment equipped. Sprint speed increased in Ft. Tarsis, along with movement responsiveness and camera improvements. The issue in a stronghold when someone left with an objective (echo) and it stopped the team's progress has been resolved. Photo mode and weapon customization will not be added in the short term. Rather than a "vote kick", they are working on improving their AFK timers. Count on "raid level" content in the first year of the game. Teased the possibility of choosing ultimates down the line someday. Invites can be sent in game (but didn't really say if "join squad" would be an option). They are looking into other achievables like titles. Not looking at increasing freeplay squad more than 4 in the short term. A healer javelin is not likely because they focus on flexibility. You can uninstall the demo without fear of not getting your rewards for playing. No loot boxes for cosmetics. Guilds will not have a private social space at the launch of guilds. Some activities will only be available for a set time but could come back around. There are no plans to allow loadout change in the field. Cannot upgrade weapons, you'll have to get another one. Bosses will not have unique drops at launch. Cataclysms will be aspirational, meaningful, challenging, and the place to earn the best rewards. Patch notes will only be for changes made after Feb. 15. If you get booted from an activity, you'll get all the XP and loot up to that point. No elemental weapons or bullets at launch. May add later but they won't do combos. Vinyl colors cannot be changed. Javelins will not favor a gender in appearance. No weapons beyond legendary at launch. Setting up primer and detonators are all about your team make up and the difficulty of the content. I wish I had four hands, so I could give BioWare four thumbs down! -Rick James, bitch!
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Post by maximusarael020 on Feb 8, 2019 0:33:04 GMT
Which does seem to turn out a pretty good BR game. Interesting ideas and designs. Yeah I think Respawn made a solid game. People that like BR seem to really like it.
EDIT: I thought it was pretty neato that my buddy didn't get infinite loading screens and disconnect after disconnect directly after launch. It was also swell how the game has a stable frame rate on PS4. Unlike Anthem, which runs like garbage.
I thought it was pretty neato that my friend knows the difference between a game demo and a full release of a game! Then again, I'm friends with pretty smart people. 😉
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 8, 2019 0:56:47 GMT
Again....repeat after me
THIS GAME IS NOT A CLASSIC BIOWARE GAME, you as core Bioware fan who loved games like Mass Effect and Dragon age are, in the context of this game, A SECOND CLASS CITIZEN. This game was never truly meant to appeal to you. This game was never really meant to "very much feel like a Bioware game". You were only fed that line (which a lot of people bought without questioning for reasons to me unknown) because EA wanted to reel the core fanbase in as to mitigate the so called "world of warcraft" effect that was bound to afflict Anthem by using Bioware's name and renown as bait. Much like when Bungie said "you will have a halo-level story" in destiny.
And you know what? I WANT to like this game. I would be quite happy to pay for it and play it
And you know what else? I will provide the following
1: offline mode is given to solo players 2: game is BALANCED for solo players properly 3: replayable campaign is added (notice that in the interviews no one ever even fucking mentions that? 4: romances are added
Give me the 4 above and I will GLADLY pay full price even a year from now for the game...hell I'll even pay 10$ extra as a "special sauce complete edition" bundle bullshit.
Either that, or give me a proper ME game or a MEA expansion so we can go fucking find the quarian ark already.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Feb 8, 2019 1:37:56 GMT
Hey now! Didn’t you tell me Anthem wouldn’t have save files?!! Maybe I can save scum after all .... Kidding, kidding ... just kidding.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 8, 2019 1:57:28 GMT
Hey now! Didn’t you tell me Anthem wouldn’t have save files?!! Maybe I can save scum after all .... Kidding, kidding ... just kidding. the obviously meant the profiles...
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Post by monkeylungs on Feb 8, 2019 2:46:49 GMT
Yeah I think Respawn made a solid game. People that like BR seem to really like it.
EDIT: I thought it was pretty neato that my buddy didn't get infinite loading screens and disconnect after disconnect directly after launch. It was also swell how the game has a stable frame rate on PS4. Unlike Anthem, which runs like garbage.
I thought it was pretty neato that my friend knows the difference between a game demo and a full release of a game! Then again, I'm friends with pretty smart people. 😉 Really? Are you sure they are actually smart? I'm doubtful.
The fact is Apex Legends launch and performance are so far beyond what I have seen from Anthem there is zero comparison.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Feb 8, 2019 3:51:51 GMT
I thought it was pretty neato that my friend knows the difference between a game demo and a full release of a game! Then again, I'm friends with pretty smart people. 😉 Really? Are you sure they are actually smart? I'm doubtful.
The fact is Apex Legends launch and performance are so far beyond what I have seen from Anthem there is zero comparison.
You are correct about one thing: there is no comparison. As one is a DEMO and one is a LAUNCHED GAME! I mean, read these changes they are making and tell me that you played the full launched title. www.polygon.com/2019/2/5/18205886/anthem-biggest-changes-demo-full-gameIt's a list of 19 things Bioware devs are changing from the demo to the full launch. That includes framerate fixes, speeding up loading screens, etc. Heck, the decrease in "infinite loading screens" from the VIP demo to last weeks was huge! I'm sorry that Sony won't revoke your pre-order or whatever. I'm sorry that apparently you thought Anthem was going to be a full-on SP RPG or whatever your issue is with it. But comparing it to a launched title because you are upset that you had connection issues on the DEMO of an un-launched Multi-player game is just ridiculous.
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