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Post by Pounce de León on Feb 15, 2019 16:25:10 GMT
SMITE makes a shit-ton of money from people spending for skins. Plenty of other more popular MOBAs do as well. And of course hero shooters like Paladins or Overwatch make extra bank with skins, too. Naturally, as mentioned above, there’s Fortnite. People spend to look cool, dude. If it’s not your cup of tea then it’s not your cup of tea. Frankly it’s not mine, either, but it clearly is for many others. ... So, in a AAA game, am I still thicc in hed or ??? Well...
I guess there will be whales who buy right away. With the majority maybe dropping some mtx bucks once the after release content rolls in. The longer a player sticks with live service, the higher the chance they drop extra cash. Will it be what EA expects to roll in? I kinda doubt it.
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Post by monkeylungs on Feb 15, 2019 16:30:03 GMT
What we now know:
1. 100 Shards = 1USD (Packs currently have a 10% discount price on them) 2. You have to buy packs that often leave you with extra shards left over to entice you to maybe buy something else later. 3. Epic armor sets are currently 850 Shards. 4. We don't know how much a legendary armor set will cost.
Overall, prices are lower than the initial 'leaked' screenshot suggested. Cool.
However everyone saying that the early estimates were incorrect have a little crow to eat as well. 100 shards = 1USD. That initial leaked screenshot DID show epic skins being sold for 20USD. The price changed prior to release for reasons we can all fight about now.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Feb 15, 2019 16:34:50 GMT
No thank you. The only thing worse than that line was the wave of Bioware fans desperately trying to defend it. What they really need is another hilarious fist fight. Maybe between two Colossi, dancing around with their fists up, trying to martial arts each other to death. There were people trying to defend "My face is tired"? People will defend anything they can when they like it. "But the others also had the same issues" is typically what you'll get when it comes to Andromedas issues as the OT had wonky animations and bad dialogue too, albeit I'll never see them being as terrible as Andromeda. They're not entirely wrong but nevertheless that doesn't give the game a pass. It's 2019 now, if your newer games have the same issues as something from 2007 then there's something wrong with you (the devs), most definitely something wrong with people also using that as a defense as they choose to not demand improvements🤷. If it comes to 2025 and people still say "but ME1 also had this issue" I'm going to bitch them out.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Feb 15, 2019 16:43:27 GMT
Just watching stream live and found same weak spot which making me hating playing in the group - guy is not rushing, he is trying to explore a bit but the moment he stops to look around he is getting "Outside mission boundary" and 30 secs to go back to group activities. Very annoying, even streamer is bit angry with this.
They also said no loading screens ? Yeah, right.
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Post by monkeylungs on Feb 15, 2019 16:51:31 GMT
I think they said shorter loading screens. This game is loaded with loading screens.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Feb 15, 2019 16:55:52 GMT
I think they said shorter loading screens. This game is loaded with loading screens. That's true, they are shorter.
I have very mixed feelings, guy spend 20 minutes in some temple or something shooting whatever is was just to get literally 5 dialogue lines regarding main story.
And i was thinking SWTOR was full of mobs... oh well.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Feb 15, 2019 17:09:11 GMT
Just watching stream live and found same weak spot which making me hating playing in the group - guy is not rushing, he is trying to explore a bit but the moment he stops to look around he is getting "Outside mission boundary" and 30 secs to go back to group activities. Very annoying, even streamer is bit angry with this.
They also said no loading screens ? Yeah, right.
But this sounds like real life, and real life is always fun. Want to stop and smell the roses? Tough shit, you need to collect some Elfroot now or your suit will spontaneously combust. Wanna look at this amazing scenery we brag about all the time, thanks to the amazing fidelity of the FB3 engine? Fuck you, go kill those poorly designed enemies over there, and while you're at it kill some wildlife because we think it's fun, so you should think so too. When did Simple Jack take over? Is Casey simply a Reaperized husk? In about 8 weeks, we will have some interesting discussions about the future.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Feb 15, 2019 17:17:06 GMT
But this sounds like real life, and real life is always fun. Want to stop and smell the roses? Tough shit, you need to collect some Elfroot now or your suit will spontaneously combust. Wanna look at this amazing scenery we brag about all the time, thanks to the amazing fidelity of the FB3 engine? Fuck you, go kill those poorly designed enemies over there, and while you're at it kill some wildlife because we think it's fun, so you should think so too. When did Simple Jack take over? Is Casey simply a Reaperized husk? In about 8 weeks, we will have some interesting discussions about the future. Who knows, maybe we will.
I am still trying to convince myself to like this game but the more i see, the less i like it.
I do not know, maybe this streamer is a complete joke but for almost an hour he is using same lightning attack OVER AND OVER again.
One of the reviewers wrote already: at the moment where he is with the story Anthem has nothing to offer it the terms of single-playing.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Feb 15, 2019 17:26:44 GMT
Yeah. I didn't say the conversation would be butterflies and rainbows.
My prediction for this game is a "meh" reception, decent but disappointing sales, a core fandom that mostly passes on it, leaving BW in a vulnerable and introspective place.
They need some introspection. The risk they take making this game is immense, and the abandonment of their core fandom in lieu of hoping to acquire a new demo... It is all strange.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Feb 15, 2019 17:35:12 GMT
No thank you. The only thing worse than that line was the wave of Bioware fans desperately trying to defend it. What they really need is another hilarious fist fight. Maybe between two Colossi, dancing around with their fists up, trying to martial arts each other to death. There were people trying to defend "My face is tired"? There was someone saying it was a common Canadian expression. No. It isn’t.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Feb 15, 2019 17:52:15 GMT
Yeah. I didn't say the conversation would be butterflies and rainbows. My prediction for this game is a "meh" reception, decent but disappointing sales, a core fandom that mostly passes on it, leaving BW in a vulnerable and introspective place. They need some introspection. The risk they take making this game is immense, and the abandonment of their core fandom in lieu of hoping to acquire a new demo... It is all strange. I honor you for making a clear prediction that can be proven or falsified with facts. Most skeptical predictions are so vague that one can claim victory regardless of what the outcome is. Not so, here. It's definitely a risky gamble, but if it pays off, they are going to look like geniuses. Then what for the core fandom? While it's a pretty weak data point, the quarterly earnings call narrative did not contain the usual type of language used for lowering expectations, wrt Anthem. On the contrary, they mentioned "excitement" in the digital and retail channels for pre-orders. What will be hard to resolve is if it indeed does land in a "meh" reception, but good enough for them to spin. Like the whole thing about stating the millions of hours played in the demos, instead of the number of users who actually got to play. They'd never admit to disappointing sales in that scenario. So we'll only be able prove or falsify your prediction if the results are one extreme or the other, total failure or total success. The middle ground will be inconclusive.
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Post by Mobius Y on Feb 15, 2019 17:55:47 GMT
SMITE makes a shit-ton of money from people spending for skins. Plenty of other more popular MOBAs do as well. And of course hero shooters like Paladins or Overwatch make extra bank with skins, too. Naturally, as mentioned above, there’s Fortnite. People spend to look cool, dude. If it’s not your cup of tea then it’s not your cup of tea. Frankly it’s not mine, either, but it clearly is for many others. Your analogy is broken, I'm afraid. You are comparing multiple F2P games, where cosmetic MTX makes some sense because anything you pay for is your own choice. Anthem costs $60 or so on release. That is more than free. Thus, why would I pay for more stuff that doesn't change gameplay? To look cool? You can already customize your Javelin with color. Maybe more, I don't know. So, in a AAA game, am I still thicc in hed or ??? Even ignoring that Overwatch is actually not F2P, it really isn’t. As I said, people pay to look cool. The fact that Anthem isn’t F2P but sporting a F2P MTX aesthetics economy is a tangential discussion. Some people will buy this stuff, even after already spending money on the game in the first place. It’s inevitable. Will it be me? Fuck no. Doesn’t sound like you will either. Since we’ve both made up our minds, I don’t see much point to being concerned about anybody else’s. It doesn’t make us thick for not understanding why anybody else would. I’m sure some whales who would and/or will pay for Anthem cosmetics in return also don’t understand why folks like you and I do not pay money for such things.
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Post by wright1978 on Feb 15, 2019 18:07:28 GMT
Feels weird after years of buying bioware games at release, now to just be waiting nervously on the sidelines, fearing that this horrid creation will be a success.
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Post by Sartoz on Feb 15, 2019 18:10:47 GMT
Just watching stream live and found same weak spot which making me hating playing in the group - guy is not rushing, he is trying to explore a bit but the moment he stops to look around he is getting "Outside mission boundary" and 30 secs to go back to group activities. Very annoying, even streamer is bit angry with this.
They also said no loading screens ? Yeah, right.
How bad compared to the demos?
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Feb 15, 2019 18:13:49 GMT
Your analogy is broken, I'm afraid. You are comparing multiple F2P games, where cosmetic MTX makes some sense because anything you pay for is your own choice. Anthem costs $60 or so on release. That is more than free. Thus, why would I pay for more stuff that doesn't change gameplay? To look cool? You can already customize your Javelin with color. Maybe more, I don't know. So, in a AAA game, am I still thicc in hed or ??? Even ignoring that Overwatch is actually not F2P, it really isn’t. As I said, people pay to look cool. The fact that Anthem isn’t F2P but sporting a F2P MTX aesthetics economy is a tangential discussion. Some people will buy this stuff, even after already spending money on the game in the first place. It’s inevitable. Will it be me? Fuck no. Doesn’t sound like you will either. Since we’ve both made up our minds, I don’t see much point to being concerned about anybody else’s. It doesn’t make us thick for not understanding why anybody else would. I’m sure some whales who would and/or will pay for Anthem cosmetics in return also don’t understand why folks like you and I do not pay money for such things. I'm not concerned really, other than that it is another obvious sign of the impending apocalypse I do feel reassured that I am not thick headed, and I appreciate your whale distinction. The children of whales are the ones that screw it up for everyone anyway. Many whales earned their money; they can spend it how they please I suppose. Their kids.... Ergh, I am becoming racist against whale children
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Feb 15, 2019 18:17:08 GMT
Just watching stream live and found same weak spot which making me hating playing in the group - guy is not rushing, he is trying to explore a bit but the moment he stops to look around he is getting "Outside mission boundary" and 30 secs to go back to group activities. Very annoying, even streamer is bit angry with this.
They also said no loading screens ? Yeah, right.
How bad compared to the demos?
Well, not so bad but there are weak spots.
Guy got some crashes, after he comeback to the game there was a server error and he have to start same thing again.
Way too many auto-dialogues.
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Post by AnDromedary on Feb 15, 2019 18:34:27 GMT
Just watching stream live and found same weak spot which making me hating playing in the group - guy is not rushing, he is trying to explore a bit but the moment he stops to look around he is getting "Outside mission boundary" and 30 secs to go back to group activities. And that right there is why I am saying, the missions better work well for a solo player or I'll just not play the game at all.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Feb 15, 2019 18:37:23 GMT
Just watching stream live and found same weak spot which making me hating playing in the group - guy is not rushing, he is trying to explore a bit but the moment he stops to look around he is getting "Outside mission boundary" and 30 secs to go back to group activities. And that right there is why I am saying, the missions better work well for a solo player or I'll just not play the game at all. Not in this game my friend.
Right now at least 3 different reviewers are saying that Anthem is very unfriendly for solo players.
I will wait until someone will finish campaign to see how long and good it is, cause for me - solo player - this is the only thing this game has to offer.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 18:39:27 GMT
The risk they take making this game is immense, and the abandonment of their core fandom in lieu of hoping to acquire a new demo... It is all strange.
Well, I'd phrase it as "... in lieu of hoping to acquire a new demo IP."
What do you feel best describes the "core fandom" for B/W? (I'm not trying to shift the discussion off the OP topic.)
In my case, I'm a SP gamer who loves the well-written RPG intriguing story - with narrative RP dialog options - that's integral to the reason for playing the game. I'm pretty sure I am not in the core B/W fandom club that would make BW/EA profitable. I did buy every DLC and specialty pack for the ME-Trilogy, so I invested about $200 into B/W's Shepard product. This new IP has left me behind but I don't begrudge them for investing into a action-packed GaaS MP game on steroids.
Edit: I guess I have yet to see the compelling reason for why I would want to invest my time in Anthem game play to obtain the entertainment satisfaction I'm looking for. Hopeful. And I'm not going to pay full price. I can wait.
Besides, listening to various people in Tarsis describe background and current events isn't really role-playing. It 'seems' Anthem is more like listening to Adm. Kohoku tell me that his missing marines vanished while on a recon mission in the Artemis Tau cluster. That's not role-playing. I hope Anthem isn't like that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 18:44:51 GMT
What they really need is another hilarious fist fight. Maybe between two Colossi, dancing around with their fists up, trying to martial arts each other to death.
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Post by aglomeracja on Feb 15, 2019 19:07:01 GMT
Is this trial/early access on already? Why is it so silent here ?
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Post by AnDromedary on Feb 15, 2019 19:45:39 GMT
And that right there is why I am saying, the missions better work well for a solo player or I'll just not play the game at all. Not in this game my friend.
Right now at least 3 different reviewers are saying that Anthem is very unfriendly for solo players.
I will wait until someone will finish campaign to see how long and good it is, cause for me - solo player - this is the only thing this game has to offer.
Really? I wonder what that means. I mean, I don't really expect Mass Effect Trilogy levels of SP goodness. I could settle for something that is solo-able in the coop looter-shooter genre like, say, The Division. But if they got the scaling wrong and you are just iverrun by hordes of enemies that were ment to be defeated by 4 of you, than that would definitely be bad.
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Post by Heimdall on Feb 15, 2019 19:48:30 GMT
Is this trial/early access on already? Why is it so silent here ? I guess: A)People at busy playing B)Not a ton of people here actually have Origin Premier or whatever the subscription service is called.
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Post by Mobius Y on Feb 15, 2019 19:49:18 GMT
What they really need is another hilarious fist fight. Maybe between two Colossi, dancing around with their fists up, trying to martial arts each other to death.
I wish I coulda had one, they were before my time.
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