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Post by Polka Dot on Feb 16, 2019 2:17:52 GMT
That was certainly my experience when I tried the demo. I did one mission solo, which worked well enough. I took my time, looked around, collected materials, etc. Then I tried a mission with a group, and they were all go!go!go!, the game teleporting me to keep up with them. So I dunno what happened on that mission. There was apparently some narration from the comm, but the group I was with missed most of it. You'd think that would be a reason the team would have realized the importance of making story missions replayable. In the demo I think being able to do the mission over and over caused people to skip things. Everyone listened and took their time the FIRST time they did it, but by time #7 or 8 they just wanted to get to the end. The problem occurs when it is one person's first time, but the other players' 8th time. Maybe making the missions not replayable is their solution to this problem. An alternative solution would be to make it possible for first timers to be segregated somehow, but as the playerbase will hopefully have new people joining later they might find it hard to find others who haven't done the content yet. Hmm, maybe if the person who starts the lobby has the option of a "slow" button where rushers can't trigger the next stage? The opposite is also a problem, where 3 people are ready to enter the final dungeon, but the last guy is off picking flowers and refusing to come to the gather point. I guess the best thing is to allow people to play privately/solo.
I wasn't aware that the missions were repeatable during the demo - but even so, players are always at risk of having peeps pulling them through missions too fast. It sounds to me like that's a griefing opportunity, whether or not the rusher intends to grief. I'll continue to look at what others have to say about the game, but my general sense is that it's not for me.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Feb 16, 2019 2:19:19 GMT
Yeah, but you are unable to make these missions solo. That's the main issue.
They should give more freedom to solo players and give them similar solution as they did in SWTOR for the people who would like to play Flashpoints or Heroics without begging others to join them.
Well from everything I've seen, this game wasn't meant to be played solo in the first place. That's why I didn't buy it. It is a looter shooter, and was marketed that way. ...well, you're right - that's why i also didn't buy it.
From the other hand game was also marketed as a looter shooter with story campaign - which you just cannot even play properly in the group if other guys are rushing. Freeplay is a joke - one streamer manage to cope in that mode only for 30 minutes
In my opinion Anthem is just designed very badly - this game have no real direction, it is a mix of everything, of course in time that can change but...
Btw. just seen some very angry comments on reddit regarding story campaign, where many people are stucked for hours in some repeateable boring filler quests without which they can not progress with the story.
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Post by lennybusker on Feb 16, 2019 2:25:32 GMT
The Launch Bay is the laziest, jankiest shit I've ever seen lmao. Literally just a room with a dozen people walking around emoting. Oh my god how embarrassing
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Feb 16, 2019 2:44:20 GMT
This game may get worse reviews than I predicted.
A scattershot approach works well for clearing a street. Not so well for hitting precise targets and "killing it".
They made a game. They definitively did not kill it; the early reactions are not great.
Edit: load times abominable for people with HDD. How is it so hard to optimize this engine?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2019 2:54:00 GMT
Apparantly the main story quest line is gated with doing a lot of fetch quests. It forces you to do quick play for example. Watching some streams. I don't like that players that rush make it so that players taking it slower will be teleported to the rushing people. Just got to this quest... So, so, so, so ...stupid... Not enough story content, Bioware? It took what, 6 hours to get to a point where the story has to be gated behind a grindy, long and somewhat RNG tasks? Revive 3 people? Ok, I guess I will play on Hard and wait for people to kick the bucket without helping them beforehand. I think that's pretty awesome, like lolwut, they scripted carrying PUGs as a part of main story missions? This is the first genuine smile this game has given to me. I mean, damn there just has to be the renegade emoji "gid gud scrubs". I'll fork that 20 BioBucks in a sec. I am sure it's peak immersion and vaunted BioWare narrative focused experience, as the fate of humanity is at stake, while you rush revive your fallen comrades m0istpussy123 and Analvape for fifth time in a row against rockbugalienmalformations (sorry, but even with my glasses on, I have difficulties of discerning what those enemies are, like basic forms, matter and movements. Little alone any aesthetic, thematic, narrative, allusionary, etc. judgements).
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Feb 16, 2019 3:25:24 GMT
Just got to this quest... So, so, so, so ...stupid... Not enough story content, Bioware? It took what, 6 hours to get to a point where the story has to be gated behind a grindy, long and somewhat RNG tasks? Revive 3 people? Ok, I guess I will play on Hard and wait for people to kick the bucket without helping them beforehand. I think that's pretty awesome, like lolwut, they scripted carrying PUGs as a part of main story missions? This is the first genuine smile this game has given to me. I mean, damn there just has to be the renegade emoji "gid gud scrubs". I'll fork that 20 BioBucks in a sec. I am sure it's peak immersion and vaunted BioWare narrative focused experience, as the fate of humanity is at stake, while you rush revive your fallen comrades m0istpussy123 and Analvape for fifth time in a row against rockbugalienmalformations (sorry, but even with my glasses on, I have difficulties of discerning what those enemies are, like basic forms, matter and movements. Little alone any aesthetic, thematic, narrative, allusionary, etc. judgements). Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! The names alone kill me, but the reality of unintended consequences is just too funny here and you nailed it! When my gaming experience depends on saving a random named dildohammer69 I have a problem.
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Post by river82 on Feb 16, 2019 5:02:12 GMT
Apparantly the main story quest line is gated with doing a lot of fetch quests. It forces you to do quick play for example. Watching some streams. I don't like that players that rush make it so that players taking it slower will be teleported to the rushing people. Just got to this quest... So, so, so, so ...stupid... Not enough story content, Bioware? It took what, 6 hours to get to a point where the story has to be gated behind a grindy, long and somewhat RNG tasks? Revive 3 people? Ok, I guess I will play on Hard and wait for people to kick the bucket without helping them beforehand. Lol, what? I thought this was a troll post. It's actually real? Bioware are great at story driven games, but their exploration gameplay recently has been horrible. And this "traverse this map to find 5 trinkets, 6 chests" bullshit is one of the reasons why. There were calls to move on from this ... er, when was Morrowind released? 17 years ago? Bioware's a little behind the times here.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Feb 16, 2019 5:21:52 GMT
Bioware can still salvage this game by making it a Battle Royale!
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Post by officerdonnz on Feb 16, 2019 5:24:05 GMT
Apparantly the main story quest line is gated with doing a lot of fetch quests. It forces you to do quick play for example. Watching some streams. I don't like that players that rush make it so that players taking it slower will be teleported to the rushing people. What the actual fuck? If this is real then this alone would have made me quit Anthem, assuming I'd bought. Which thank god I haven't. I have a feeling Anthem may well crash and burn. And as much as I hate to say it I have no sympathy for the devs that wanted Anthem.
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Post by river82 on Feb 16, 2019 6:15:14 GMT
I thought I'd take a quick waltz over to *shudders* Resetera and see what their response is.
They're currently debating whether Anthem has Warframe level grind or Destiny level grind. Someone said Warframe is F2P and therefore you expect grind, but you pay full price for Anthem.
So even Resetera aren't sold on Anthem. And now I'm off to burn my clothes and take a long shower
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Post by General Mahad on Feb 16, 2019 6:55:40 GMT
Oh sure lessons can be learned in a lot of areas. But they aren’t inventing something new. They are mimicking. They chose the wrong brand to mimic. I agree. Still think Borderlands 1 and 2 are the best of the looter shooter genre. I know I'm a broken record about this but they managed to do that while having a good story, missions, characters, dynamic world, etc.
WHY DOESN'T BIOWARE DO THAT?!
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Post by theduke on Feb 16, 2019 7:25:46 GMT
Watched some of Giant Bomb's Anthem first impressions. Gotta say NPCS still lifeless as ever, has Bioware learned nothing from other developers over the years? Also might as well rename Anthem to loading screen the game, seriously I've never seen a game with so much loading before.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Feb 16, 2019 8:57:48 GMT
Some guys already finished campaign (full of fillers) - less than 15 hours after release.
BioWare have to be f joking...
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Post by river82 on Feb 16, 2019 8:58:01 GMT
Watched some of Giant Bomb's Anthem first impressions. Gotta say NPCS still lifeless as ever, has Bioware learned nothing from other developers over the years? Also might as well rename Anthem to loading screen the game, seriously I've never seen a game with so much loading before. I legitimately feel like Bioware's gone from trendsetters to a company following in others footsteps. And those footsteps they're following are barely visible, the passage of time almost completely hiding them from view.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Feb 16, 2019 9:11:05 GMT
Wow, this is worse than I expected. WTF.
Not sure what's more frustrating, the constant teleporting disrupting your flow which already turned me off the game big time during the demo... or now being actively forced into teamplay for gimmicky shit? Revive medals were a source of laughter in ME3MP, now they recycle it into missions? Jeez, how uncreative can you get...
That's just sad at this point. So not even deep sale material for me anymore.
One quest would stop you from getting the game? Not like you'll have to do it three times on different characters is it? Cmon dude. This is hate for no reason. The game looks plays and feels amazing. would you throw a whole box of fries away because one fry was burnt? No? I'm throwing the box away because none of the fries are crispy and there's no salt on them. I played the demo for six hours and I was already bored the last hour. The game is poorly designed imo. I gave plenty of reasons why I consider this game inferior to older Bioware games in every respect, including combat. Not suffering through another rage inducing Frostbite Bioware game. Andromeda had enough shit quest design to last me a lifetime. I'm not hating for no reason, dude. Go ahead and have fun. This is not the game for me. Deal with it.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Feb 16, 2019 9:15:08 GMT
One quest would stop you from getting the game? Not like you'll have to do it three times on different characters is it? Cmon dude. This is hate for no reason. The game looks plays and feels amazing. would you throw a whole box of fries away because one fry was burnt? No? I'm throwing the box away because none of the fries are crispy and there's no salt on them. I played the demo for six hours and I was already bored the last hour. The game is poorly designed imo. I gave plenty of reasons why I consider this game inferior to older Bioware games in every respect, including combat. Not suffering through another rage inducing Frostbite Bioware game. Andromeda had enough shit quest design to last me a lifetime. I'm not hating for no reason, dude. Go ahead and have fun. This is not the game for me. Deal with it. I just go thru reddit Anthem spoiler story topic and someone said that reading people impressions make him depressed
Let them have fun, this game will not survive much longer than MEA
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Post by river82 on Feb 16, 2019 9:22:27 GMT
No? I'm throwing the box away because none of the fries are crispy and there's no salt on them. I played the demo for six hours and I was already bored the last hour. The game is poorly designed imo. I gave plenty of reasons why I consider this game inferior to older Bioware games in every respect, including combat. Not suffering through another rage inducing Frostbite Bioware game. Andromeda had enough shit quest design to last me a lifetime. I'm not hating for no reason, dude. Go ahead and have fun. This is not the game for me. Deal with it. I just go thru reddit Anthem spoiler story topic and someone said that reading people impressions make him depressed
Let them have fun, this game will not survive much longer than MEA
Why would other people's impressions make them depressed? The game will be successful enough that it will survive a good number of years (*looks at how long SWTOR has been alive*) so why is it so important that other people's views align with their viewpoint? Seems a bit ... controlling to me : S
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Post by saandrig on Feb 16, 2019 9:24:02 GMT
Just got to this quest... So, so, so, so ...stupid... Not enough story content, Bioware? It took what, 6 hours to get to a point where the story has to be gated behind a grindy, long and somewhat RNG tasks? Revive 3 people? Ok, I guess I will play on Hard and wait for people to kick the bucket without helping them beforehand. Lol, what? I thought this was a troll post. It's actually real? Bioware are great at story driven games, but their exploration gameplay recently has been horrible. And this "traverse this map to find 5 trinkets, 6 chests" bullshit is one of the reasons why. There were calls to move on from this ... er, when was Morrowind released? 17 years ago? Bioware's a little behind the times here. You know what? I also thought this was a troll post! Then I got to the quest and...couldn't F believe it. The campaign up to that point was ok. Not great, balancing on mediocre, tolerable. Than this came up just as some interesting things began to happen for a change.
The mission design is bland. Fly to point A, listen to a few sentences, kill waves of enemies. Fly to point B, repeat.
One good thing I can say - the NPCs have pretty good facial animations Almost impressive. And while the dialogue is not amazing, the voice acting seems to be top notch in Tarsis. Except from the male main character - he sounds like he knows he is in a game and just trolls about.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Feb 16, 2019 9:35:19 GMT
I just go thru reddit Anthem spoiler story topic and someone said that reading people impressions make him depressed
Let them have fun, this game will not survive much longer than MEA
Why would other people's impressions make them depressed? The game will be successful enough that it will survive a good number of years (*looks at how long SWTOR has been alive*) so why is it so important that other people's views align with their viewpoint? Seems a bit ... controlling to me : S Why ? Read them
Let' say except reviewers, streamers and some bunch of grinding lovers... no many other people are happy.
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Post by hawkspian on Feb 16, 2019 11:58:03 GMT
One quest would stop you from getting the game? Not like you'll have to do it three times on different characters is it? Cmon dude. This is hate for no reason. The game looks plays and feels amazing. would you throw a whole box of fries away because one fry was burnt? No? I'm throwing the box away because none of the fries are crispy and there's no salt on them. I played the demo for six hours and I was already bored the last hour. The game is poorly designed imo. I gave plenty of reasons why I consider this game inferior to older Bioware games in every respect, including combat. Not suffering through another rage inducing Frostbite Bioware game. Andromeda had enough shit quest design to last me a lifetime. I'm not hating for no reason, dude. Go ahead and have fun. This is not the game for me. Deal with it. I can't have fun, I can't stay in the game long enough. Keep getting disconnected from the EA servers. Tweeted anthem and ea help and nothing as if yet but yeah if this persists I'm gonna be very sad. This could be s fine looter shooter... If it worked.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Feb 16, 2019 12:18:22 GMT
I can't have fun, I can't stay in the game long enough. Keep getting disconnected from the EA servers. Tweeted anthem and ea help and nothing as if yet but yeah if this persists I'm gonna be very sad. This could be s fine looter shooter... If it worked. Sorry to hear that. :/ Going by other people's experience it seemed like servers were a lot more stable now? Good luck to all playing who still have major issues!
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Post by shinobiwan on Feb 16, 2019 12:46:41 GMT
Everything I'm hearing is suggesting this is Andromeda 2.0. I've seen numerous, very specific red flags, and everything positive I've seen is vague as hell, "this game feels great" type comments..
Bioware, what the hell. How did this happen again?
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Post by Space Cowboy on Feb 16, 2019 13:05:35 GMT
I decided to toss $5 their way and play the 10 hour demo. It runs fine for me, but the quest design is meh. They are all the same. Collect an item, drop it off, kill some mooks, rinse and repeat. I'll play a bit more, try some missions that i haven't seen yet. Then I'll go back to a single player game.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Feb 16, 2019 13:23:22 GMT
I do not believe anymore in honest reviews regarding Anthem. Since yesterday i've tried to post 5 or 6 different reply's - very balanced and toned - on several review-in-progress websites and guess what ? None of them have been published.
Even better - i go thru other people reply's and it seems Anthem is the game of the decade - couldn't find a single negative review ! Well done BioWare !
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