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Post by SofaJockey on Feb 22, 2019 20:48:47 GMT
Thanks for the teasing from some visiting skeptics. By all means, pop in to make an occasional remark, but this is the Hype Train Thread, so any major discussion about the issues that Anthem may have, if there are any such things of any significance, are topics for others threads. This thread is allowed to be hyped about Anthem in relative peace. Much appreciated.
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Post by helios969 on Feb 22, 2019 20:58:33 GMT
An observation
The Skepticism Thread out writes and out reads the Hype Thread by 4+ to 1.
Make of that what you will.
So? It means people aren’t inclined to complain about the game 24 hours straight. Not to mention too many of the couple hundred here seem to think their opinions are representative of fans of games as a whole...or even the majority of Bioware fans. Plus the hype-clan is having fun playing while "skeptics" are scrounging for anything they can cite as "proof" the game is bad...you know like posting randomgamingyoutuber gave it a 3/10 in his latest review.
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Post by midnight tea on Feb 22, 2019 21:11:02 GMT
Yea, there's no better indicator that everything will be used against Anthem than trying to make a deal out of thread activity on the day the game has a worldwide release I mean yea, what people who enjoy Anthem would be doing today - playing the game or sitting on forums all day? PFFFFFFFFFFFFFT........ In other words - don't feed certain attention-seekers, folks. It's been obvious for a while that even if the game had scores like 89 or 95 there would be people coming and claiming the same thing, as they did with Inquisition, despite the game's obvious success. And Anthem is just getting started. I, for one, am interested in seeing its journey.
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Post by samhain444 on Feb 22, 2019 21:11:40 GMT
So? It means people aren’t inclined to complain about the game 24 hours straight. Not to mention too many of the couple hundred here seem to think their opinions are representative of fans of games as a whole...or even the majority of Bioware fans. Plus the hype-clan is having fun playing while "skeptics" are scrounging for anything they can cite as "proof" the game is bad...you know like posting randomgamingyoutuber gave it a 3/10 in his latest review. One of the funnier ones was how Skill Up shredded the game yet it's been pointed out by other youtubers he essentially didn't understand the combat at all and approached like a boots-on-the-ground shooter. But he got his clicks and subs...
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Post by Doc on Feb 22, 2019 21:15:52 GMT
Not to mention too many of the couple hundred here seem to think their opinions are representative of fans of games as a whole...or even the majority of Bioware fans. Plus the hype-clan is having fun playing while "skeptics" are scrounging for anything they can cite as "proof" the game is bad...you know like posting randomgamingyoutuber gave it a 3/10 in his latest review. One of the funnier ones was how Skill Up shredded the game yet it's been pointed out by other youtubers he essentially didn't understand the combat at all and approached like a boots-on-the-ground shooter. But he got his clicks and subs... Seems fair; I had to read these forums to find out the Anthem specific mechanics. It's not clear in-game. Thanks BSN!
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Post by samhain444 on Feb 22, 2019 21:31:25 GMT
One of the funnier ones was how Skill Up shredded the game yet it's been pointed out by other youtubers he essentially didn't understand the combat at all and approached like a boots-on-the-ground shooter. But he got his clicks and subs... Seems fair; I had to read these forums to find out the Anthem specific mechanics. It's not clear in-game. Thanks BSN! Sure, Doc...
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Post by midnight tea on Feb 22, 2019 21:46:23 GMT
Not to mention too many of the couple hundred here seem to think their opinions are representative of fans of games as a whole...or even the majority of Bioware fans. Plus the hype-clan is having fun playing while "skeptics" are scrounging for anything they can cite as "proof" the game is bad...you know like posting randomgamingyoutuber gave it a 3/10 in his latest review. One of the funnier ones was how Skill Up shredded the game yet it's been pointed out by other youtubers he essentially didn't understand the combat at all and approached like a boots-on-the-ground shooter. But he got his clicks and subs... I really don't know Skill Up or his motivations - or motivations of any other critic or commentator/entertainer, but sometimes I get a feeling that prior to (any form of) release some folks are feigning interest or 'I'll give this game a chance/I have high hopes' only to capitalize on being vocal on just how massively they were disappointed by it. Anyway, I think the biggest issue some people have is one that's been apparent ever since Anthem was announced - some people can't get over the fact that Bioware has decided to make something different for a change. Even Skill Up's title card reveals it all - "Bioware made the wrong game"... what kind of game they were supposed to do - one that you want them to make? It baffles me how people are riling against EA supposedly forcing their studios to make certain games and loudly declaring how 'gamedevs should make what they want to make!!' then turn around and yell at developers for not delivering what THEY want. So long as the game has strong support, I think we'll see most people ultimately accept Anthem for what it is. I'm not going to say that Bioware has yet nailed the formula of story-driven looter-shooter with unique flying and combat mechanics, there are kinks and things that need to be smoothed out or reconsidered aside from technical issues, but IMO they have a good foundation they can build on and so far they appear determined to chase that vision. I remain curious where things would go.
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Post by correctamundo on Feb 23, 2019 17:08:55 GMT
One of the funnier ones was how Skill Up shredded the game yet it's been pointed out by other youtubers he essentially didn't understand the combat at all and approached like a boots-on-the-ground shooter. But he got his clicks and subs... I really don't know Skill Up or his motivations - or motivations of any other critic or commentator/entertainer, but sometimes I get a feeling that prior to (any form of) release some folks are feigning interest or 'I'll give this game a chance/I have high hopes' only to capitalize on being vocal on just how massively they were disappointed by it. Anyway, I think the biggest issue some people have is one that's been apparent ever since Anthem was announced - some people can't get over the fact that Bioware has decided to make something different for a change. Even Skill Up's title card reveals it all - "Bioware made the wrong game"... what kind of game they were supposed to do - one that you want them to make? It baffles me how people are riling against EA supposedly forcing their studios to make certain games and loudly declaring how 'gamedevs should make what they want to make!!' then turn around and yell at developers for not delivering what THEY want. So long as the game has strong support, I think we'll see most people ultimately accept Anthem for what it is. I'm not going to say that Bioware has yet nailed the formula of story-driven looter-shooter with unique flying and combat mechanics, there are kinks and things that need to be smoothed out or reconsidered aside from technical issues, but IMO they have a good foundation they can build on and so far they appear determined to chase that vision. I remain curious where things would go. Maybe skillup started out sincere some time long ago but now he's just jumping on any bandwagon for clicks. In this case he's either lacking in basic gaming skills or being disingenuous. He jumped on the "Bethesda needs a new engine" bandwagon while clearly not understandning the whole engine concept and why a BGS game behaves the way it does.
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Post by midnight tea on Feb 23, 2019 22:31:24 GMT
I really don't know Skill Up or his motivations - or motivations of any other critic or commentator/entertainer, but sometimes I get a feeling that prior to (any form of) release some folks are feigning interest or 'I'll give this game a chance/I have high hopes' only to capitalize on being vocal on just how massively they were disappointed by it. Anyway, I think the biggest issue some people have is one that's been apparent ever since Anthem was announced - some people can't get over the fact that Bioware has decided to make something different for a change. Even Skill Up's title card reveals it all - "Bioware made the wrong game"... what kind of game they were supposed to do - one that you want them to make? It baffles me how people are riling against EA supposedly forcing their studios to make certain games and loudly declaring how 'gamedevs should make what they want to make!!' then turn around and yell at developers for not delivering what THEY want. So long as the game has strong support, I think we'll see most people ultimately accept Anthem for what it is. I'm not going to say that Bioware has yet nailed the formula of story-driven looter-shooter with unique flying and combat mechanics, there are kinks and things that need to be smoothed out or reconsidered aside from technical issues, but IMO they have a good foundation they can build on and so far they appear determined to chase that vision. I remain curious where things would go. Maybe skillup started out sincere some time long ago but now he's just jumping on any bandwagon for clicks. In this case he's either lacking in basic gaming skills or being disingenuous. He jumped on the "Bethesda needs a new engine" bandwagon while clearly not understandning the whole engine concept and why a BGS game behaves the way it does. I'm not really into Fallout series, but the hate the game got was on another level entirely. At some point, it was getting obvious that the hate is kept on life support to either get clicks or a topic to rant on, because I couldn't believe how even stuff outside of games (a jacket? A bag?) was used to bash the game and Bethesda.... I mean, really? I've noted even before Anthem's release that the fuel's running out and the outrage crew was hunting for new blood that will carry them to next topic. And I see that they keep trying to make this another Fallout 76, even reacting as if way higher reception to the game is on a similar level, but I don't see it continue for long if EA won't make PR mistakes and Bioware keeps being responsive to community and pushing out fixes and updates. It'll be ridiculous for a little while regardless, as absolutely every move, mistake and bug will be scrutinized under a microscope for the slightest stumble, but if there isn't fuel for rants that make money, they'll just move to another target and leave the rest of us to play or wait for new content.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 23, 2019 22:32:03 GMT
My copy is in the mail. It should arrive Tuesday or Wednesday at the latest.
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Post by alanc9 on Feb 23, 2019 22:45:51 GMT
Physical copies are still a thing?
Actually, it'd be nice if Anthem came with a big paper map the way games used to.
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Post by ahglock on Feb 23, 2019 23:57:16 GMT
Maybe skillup started out sincere some time long ago but now he's just jumping on any bandwagon for clicks. In this case he's either lacking in basic gaming skills or being disingenuous. He jumped on the "Bethesda needs a new engine" bandwagon while clearly not understandning the whole engine concept and why a BGS game behaves the way it does. I'm not really into Fallout series, but the hate the game got was on another level entirely. At some point, it was getting obvious that the hate is kept on life support to either get clicks or a topic to rant on, because I couldn't believe how even stuff outside of games (a jacket? A bag?) was used to bash the game and Bethesda.... I mean, really? I've noted even before Anthem's release that the fuel's running out and the outrage crew was hunting for new blood that will carry them to next topic. And I see that they keep trying to make this another Fallout 76, even reacting as if way higher reception to the game is on a similar level, but I don't see it continue for long if EA won't make PR mistakes and Bioware keeps being responsive to community and pushing out fixes and updates. It'll be ridiculous for a little while regardless, as absolutely every move, mistake and bug will be scrutinized under a microscope for the slightest stumble, but if there isn't fuel for rants that make money, they'll just move to another target and leave the rest of us to play or wait for new content. I’m not sure the professional reviewers are part of a outrage mob. it got a lot of shit from them. But both fallout 76 and anthem have something in common other than lack of quality that yes generated a lot of false hate. They are from SP developers making a MP only game. Large contingents of “fans” felt betrayed and were trashing both games before any knowledge of their flaws had come out. So while yes I suspect the hate is unjustly magnified I don’t think it is wise to push off the criticism as just being a outrage mob. There are plenty of legitimate complaints.
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Post by midnight tea on Feb 24, 2019 0:34:01 GMT
I'm not really into Fallout series, but the hate the game got was on another level entirely. At some point, it was getting obvious that the hate is kept on life support to either get clicks or a topic to rant on, because I couldn't believe how even stuff outside of games (a jacket? A bag?) was used to bash the game and Bethesda.... I mean, really? I've noted even before Anthem's release that the fuel's running out and the outrage crew was hunting for new blood that will carry them to next topic. And I see that they keep trying to make this another Fallout 76, even reacting as if way higher reception to the game is on a similar level, but I don't see it continue for long if EA won't make PR mistakes and Bioware keeps being responsive to community and pushing out fixes and updates. It'll be ridiculous for a little while regardless, as absolutely every move, mistake and bug will be scrutinized under a microscope for the slightest stumble, but if there isn't fuel for rants that make money, they'll just move to another target and leave the rest of us to play or wait for new content. I’m not sure the professional reviewers are part of a outrage mob. it got a lot of shit from them. But both fallout 76 and anthem have something in common other than lack of quality that yes generated a lot of false hate. They are from SP developers making a MP only game. Large contingents of “fans” felt betrayed and were trashing both games before any knowledge of their flaws had come out. So while yes I suspect the hate is unjustly magnified I don’t think it is wise to push off the criticism as just being a outrage mob. There are plenty of legitimate complaints. There is a difference between criticism and magnitude of outrage or hate that are thrown whatever is deemed a convenient target and I'm not sure why you think I'm conflating the two. Also - there is a difference between mixed reception of professional reviewers and what the outrage crowd is doing. We can argue about different pieces, but the reality is that the reception here is one that usually meets games that break the typical format of 'the game you buy is what (mostly) you get forever and we can move on to different things now'. From what I've noticed the gaming press seems to have something of a hard time getting over the fact that the games are changing and thus the format of traditional reviews might be changing too. It's a bigger discussion to be had across the industry. Anyway - the amusing thing is that this isn't even the first departure from what was supposed to be 'traditional' Bioware and not the first time people have thrown a fit about it. Then they accept it. And then throw a fit when Bioware changes or experiments yet again. This entitlement needs to be tempered quite a bit. I'm a creator. I understand and believe in art/creations existing in the space between author and audience, or the dialogue they have, and that's irrespectively from considerations of existing market or trends or business decisions. But anybody who comes and demands I do something they like, or feels betrayed because I want to do something different for a change and tries to bully me into a role perceived for me by shouting and ripping my work to shreds can go and jump into a volcano.
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Post by bshep on Feb 24, 2019 0:59:28 GMT
Hate and negativity sells clicks and views. Youtube is the living proof of that, where we have whole channels dedicated only to trash talk games.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 26, 2019 22:20:09 GMT
My game just arrived and is being installed now.
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Post by griffith82 on Feb 26, 2019 22:27:02 GMT
So I'm really debating of I should give this game a try. Thoughts? I'd mostly do Solo parts.
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Post by Terminator Force on Feb 26, 2019 22:36:00 GMT
So I'm really debating of I should give this game a try. Thoughts? I'd mostly do Solo parts. Let your conscience guide you on this choice.
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Post by ahglock on Feb 26, 2019 22:37:57 GMT
So I'm really debating of I should give this game a try. Thoughts? I'd mostly do Solo parts. If you are on pc you can do the origin premier for one month thing. If you really like it and buy, sure you are out $15 but if you are meh or no you just saved $45. I’m waiting till it’s free on origin basic. By then it will probably have a couple content patches as well.
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Post by Mobius Y on Feb 26, 2019 22:42:33 GMT
So I'm really debating of I should give this game a try. Thoughts? I'd mostly do Solo parts. It’s playable solo, but trust me it’s way easier and more beneficial to have pubbies play with you. I’ve done everything on Hard so far and my first ten hours was by myself. Boss fights at the end of several missions would take way longer than it should, and I also would die alot by certain really powerful enemies. For example there was one mission I did where I was being attacked by Wolven (many doge), one of which was a Legendary Frost Wolven (really high-level baddie). I died at least six times because it would one-hit kill me. Also the XP rewards when solo are abysmal. Maybe 3-4000 XP at the end of a mission. But even with pubbies, if they get 4-5000 each it’s a total of 16-20,000 XP by the end of the mission. Plus they can be your bullet sponge/kill stuff. Beyond that the gameplay is fun but I can see how it would quickly get repetitive for people trying to rush through the main story and pound out Stronghold runs ASAP. Exploring is fun too but I think that’s a “caters to me specifically” kinda thing.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 26, 2019 22:42:33 GMT
So I'm really debating of I should give this game a try. Thoughts? I'd mostly do Solo parts.
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Post by floratheelf on Feb 26, 2019 23:51:31 GMT
So I'm really debating of I should give this game a try. Thoughts? I'd mostly do Solo parts. Ive said this on another thread but the only reason I got this game was because my boyfriend bought it for me and made sure I had it upon release. I put it in and have been so addicted since! I haven't put so many hours into a game so quickly for a very long time. I'm always very cautious about playing with random people out in the world lol but Anthem makes it very easy and enjoyable to do so. So I'm not sure about solo play but as someone who tends to be unsure about the MP aspect it's very fun.
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Post by projectpatdc on Feb 27, 2019 0:40:25 GMT
I feel like if you are approaching this game without much knowledge of it other than all the criticism on the internet (and especially if you haven’t played destiny or division before), you would probably be a little pleasantly surprised at how much fun you would be having.
If you have played destiny, division, and diablo during the vanilla days, I imagine you would also be pleasantly surprised at how much fun You are having and probably pretty excited to see Anthem evolve because you were there when Division had no end game, Diablo was just broken, and destiny gave you blue items for purple engrams that took forever to farm (loot cave anyone??)
Sure there needs to be some adjustments, added content, and optimization, but what is there has been downright a blast to play. Similar to the other mentioned titles, I Hope BioWare continues to build upon their piece of art. Looking forward to more to come.
My request is that I hope the make npcs and the living world more dynamic. Moving Striders, attacks in progress, living/brieathing civilian camps/towns, wildlife attacks (there’s some already), and moving interactive npcs
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Post by bshep on Feb 27, 2019 1:11:21 GMT
So I'm really debating of I should give this game a try. Thoughts? I'd mostly do Solo parts. Story quests are actually good to be played alone (set your session to private) since you can take you time to explore and list to converstions and not be rushed by someone else.
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Post by bshep on Feb 27, 2019 1:16:07 GMT
I feel like if you are approaching this game without much knowledge of it other than all the criticism on the internet (and especially if you haven’t played destiny or division before), you would probably be a little pleasantly surprised at how much fun you would be having. If you have played destiny, division, and diablo during the vanilla days, I imagine you would also be pleasantly surprised at how much fun You are having and probably pretty excited to see Anthem evolve because you were there when Division had no end game, Diablo was just broken, and destiny gave you blue items for purple engrams that took forever to farm (loot cave anyone??) Sure there needs to be some adjustments, added content, and optimization, but what is there has been downright a blast to play. Similar to the other mentioned titles, I Hope BioWare continues to build upon their piece of art. Looking forward to more to come. My request is that I hope the make npcs and the living world more dynamic. Moving Striders, attacks in progress, living/brieathing civilian camps/towns, wildlife attacks (there’s some already), and moving interactive npcsI really like the idea of moving striders. There is a road between Fort Tarsis lock and Anthium lock, so maybe Bioware could implement some "AT-AT" walking around this road and passing through the gates.
ps: i was there at diablo...lol
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Post by Sharable Horizon on Feb 27, 2019 3:11:50 GMT
My game just arrived and is being installed now. Gah! Just two more days until I get the chance to play it! The wait has been maddening! If anybody is on Xbox and wants to play feel free to add me (GT same as here just without the space )
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