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Post by saandrig on Dec 10, 2018 9:30:38 GMT
I am still sceptical about buying the game, but after this weekend I am willing to give it a shot when it's available for Origin Premier access. I have one really big issue with the game and if it's fixed by February, maybe, just maybe I can try giving it more of a chance.
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Post by arcanistranger on Dec 10, 2018 10:08:52 GMT
Translation for anyone interested: The echo chamber I reside in echoes my own thoughts back at me. This must be proof universal and undeniable that my thoughts on the game are the correct ones. I heard it's pretty, the combat is good, the flying is terrible, and it feels like a dull by-the-numbers AAA game. So I guess I must be hanging around the parts of the internet where people crawl a lot xD EDIT: I've heard specifics but I'm not posting them. You want to know what my "echo chamber" is? Going to Twitter, searching for "anthem alpha", listing tweets by Latest, and going through several hours of people tweeting about the alpha. There is literally only one criticism I've seen about flying, and it's an issue the devs have said is addressed in newer builds -- the flying has received plenty of praise. And I haven't seen one single person make any sort of comment about it being "a dull by-the-numbers AAA game." On the contrary, both on Twitter and Reddit, I've seen plenty of people who said that they had been skeptical of the game but were now positive about it. So, having drawn my conclusions from the least echo-chamber-y site possible, what makes me think that "echo chamber" is a glorious case of projection?
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Post by river82 on Dec 10, 2018 10:18:15 GMT
There is literally only one criticism I've seen about flying, and it's an issue the devs have said is addressed in newer builds -- the flying has received plenty of praise. How many of those people praising the flying are playing on PC? And I haven't seen one single person make any sort of comment about it being "a dull by-the-numbers AAA game." On the contrary, both on Twitter and Reddit, I've seen plenty of people who said that they had been skeptical of the game but were now positive about it. I've encountered plenty. I've also heard "bullet sponge" and "not as tactical as it's been made out to be". I've heard customisation is wanting, RPG elements is wanting, I've heard there's issues with aiming, abilities are generic, upgrades generic, loot uninspired, story cookie cutter. And of course LOL servers. EDIT: I think by upgrades I meant skills, and by loot I meant upgrades or drops. I don't get the exact terminology. I'm looking at a screenshot of the skills available though and they are pretty generic. I won't name them though
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Post by Gileadan on Dec 10, 2018 10:19:07 GMT
I'm honestly confused.
So praising the game on Twitter somehow wasn't a breach of the NDA? Or should some people really go and check their Origin libraries now?
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Post by river82 on Dec 10, 2018 10:21:42 GMT
I'm honestly confused. So praising the game on Twitter somehow wasn't a breach of the NDA? Or should some people really go and check their Origin libraries now? I don't know if it even matters. There's been a ton of NDA breaching, it only matters if they can link you back to your Origin account. A random username on a forum, for example, is a lot harder. Twitter also depending on their twitter handle.
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Post by chococri on Dec 10, 2018 10:24:16 GMT
I'm honestly confused. So praising the game on Twitter somehow wasn't a breach of the NDA? Or should some people really go and check their Origin libraries now? I don't know man but I won't break the NDA. We will have plenty of time to talk about the game in January with the demo!
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Post by arcanistranger on Dec 10, 2018 10:28:51 GMT
I've heard customisation is wanting, RPG elements is wanting, I've heard there's issues with aiming, abilities are generic, upgrades generic, loot uninspired, story cookie cutter. And of course LOL servers. Customization, RPG elements, etc...these are all features the developers said wouldn't be in the alpha. Likewise, THE ENTIRE POINT of the alpha was meant to stress-test the servers. Also worth noting is that I didn't see a single person making such complaints. So those people you know didn't understand the alpha in the first place. (Worth noting is that I haven't seen a single complaint about these things, aside from the aiming -- which ties into the same thing as the flight on PC that the developers have stated is already addressed.) So praising the game on Twitter somehow wasn't a breach of the NDA? Or should some people really go and check their Origin libraries now? I really don't think they're going to crack down on people saying the game was good. And as you see here on this forum, most people aren't explicitly saying "the alpha was great!" because of the NDA. Broadcasting footage of the alpha is definitely something EA would have a problem with, because people would then try to use that footage to insinuate the game will be the same at launch. (Frankly, with how many scumbag YouTubers manipulated footage just to make Andromeda's female characters look "ugly", I'm sure EA knows that those people would happily take alpha footage and pass it off as the launch version.)
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Post by river82 on Dec 10, 2018 10:32:14 GMT
Customization, RPG elements, etc...these are all features the developers said wouldn't be in the alpha. Likewise, THE ENTIRE POINT of the alpha was meant to stress-test the servers. Also worth noting is that I didn't see a single person making such complaints. So maybe the people you know just didn't know the point of the alpha? Like I said, I've seen plenty. And what a coincidence that every single complaint I listed happened to not be included in the alpha, including RPG elements which include story and combat systems, both of which ARE in the alpha. So I can safely conclude you're pulling stuff out of your ass.
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Post by bshep on Dec 10, 2018 10:32:35 GMT
arcanistranger river82 I am just going to say this: better you both wait until you have the game to take your own conclusions instead of doing it from people who may or may not have been on the Alpha test.
I'm honestly confused. So praising the game on Twitter somehow wasn't a breach of the NDA? Or should some people really go and check their Origin libraries now? Yes it is a breach of the NDA. Anyone doing it on a public place like twitter is pretty much dumb or crazy. Bioware Developers were even retweeting the case of that streamer who lost his whole origin library because of breaking the NDA he signed as a cautionary tale for others. But i guess some people don't learn.
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Post by river82 on Dec 10, 2018 11:17:48 GMT
arcanistranger river82 I am just going to say this: better you both wait until you have the game to take your own conclusions instead of doing it from people who may or may not have been on the Alpha test. Point taken, but I'm currently looking at a screenshot of the skills (abilities, I dunno what they're called) available in the alpha. So I'm judging for myself when I say they're generic. People were talking about it extensively in a discord channel I was in. I was trying to ignore it, but managed to skim some stuff. Of course I hang out with a lot of PC nerds which may colour their opinions. Enjoy your experience with the game though. I was just demonstrating it's not garnering universal praise
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Post by arcanistranger on Dec 10, 2018 11:23:08 GMT
Point taken, but I'm currently looking at a screenshot of the skills (abilities, I dunno what they're called) available in the alpha. So I'm judging for myself when I say they're generic. People were talking about it extensively in a discord channel I was in. I was trying to ignore it, but managed to skim some stuff. Of course I hang out with a lot of PC nerds which may colour their opinions. Enjoy your experience with the game though. I was just demonstrating it's not garnering universal praise Let me reiterate: You're complaining about something THE ALPHA WASN'T MEANT TO SHOW OFF. I mean, dang, what is BioWare thinking about their stress-test alpha for Anthem not showing off Dragon Age?
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Post by river82 on Dec 10, 2018 11:28:29 GMT
Point taken, but I'm currently looking at a screenshot of the skills (abilities, I dunno what they're called) available in the alpha. So I'm judging for myself when I say they're generic. People were talking about it extensively in a discord channel I was in. I was trying to ignore it, but managed to skim some stuff. Of course I hang out with a lot of PC nerds which may colour their opinions. Enjoy your experience with the game though. I was just demonstrating it's not garnering universal praise Let me reiterate: You're complaining about something THE ALPHA WASN'T MEANT TO SHOW OFF. I mean, dang, what is BioWare thinking about their stress-test alpha for Anthem not showing off Dragon Age? If the point of the alpha was to merely stress test the servers (which everyone is bitching about as far as I can tell), why say that the feedback the devs are getting is almost universally positive? What feedback would that be? Yes, servers are working fine? That's pretty uninspiring praise. People are allowed to judge what's been put in front of them *shrugs*
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Post by Space Cowboy on Dec 10, 2018 12:51:42 GMT
There is literally only one criticism I've seen about flying, and it's an issue the devs have said is addressed in newer builds -- the flying has received plenty of praise. No need to check twitter. If you were in the alpha, and I'd be surprised if you werent given your name, you could check the answers.ea forum/general feedback forum, dedicated to the alpha testing, and see thousands of comments, both positive and negative, on the game, on many different subjects. If you werent in the alpha then you have no idea what you're talking about. I always laugh at claims like 'there is literally only one..'. There is never ever only one complaint about anything. Ever. river82 I'm not going to break nda, but I do suspect may of the systems/functions were disabled or not available to select (as advertaised). This says nothing about the quality of said systems of course.
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Post by correctamundo on Dec 10, 2018 13:06:02 GMT
Due to the NDA, people who played the alpha technically can't even say that the game was great. I didn't sign up for the alpha and am thus under no NDA, so I can point out that, aside from specific things the developers have responded to, the feedback for the alpha has been almost universally positive on all social media I've seen. (Disclaimer: I did not look in the corners of the internet that most people who whine about BioWare crawl out from.) Translation for anyone interested: The echo chamber I reside in echoes my own thoughts back at me. This must be proof universal and undeniable that my thoughts on the game are the correct ones. I heard it's pretty, the combat is good, the flying is terrible, and it feels like a dull by-the-numbers AAA game. So I guess I must be hanging around the parts of the internet where people crawl a lot xD EDIT: I've heard specifics but I'm not posting them. Suuuure, but I bet Arcanist echo chamber is bigger than yours. edit: oops Twitter vs a discord channel.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Dec 10, 2018 14:10:46 GMT
Translation for anyone interested: The echo chamber I reside in echoes my own thoughts back at me. This must be proof universal and undeniable that my thoughts on the game are the correct ones. I heard it's pretty, the combat is good, the flying is terrible, and it feels like a dull by-the-numbers AAA game. So I guess I must be hanging around the parts of the internet where people crawl a lot xD EDIT: I've heard specifics but I'm not posting them. Suuuure, but I bet Arcanist echo chamber is bigger than yours. edit: oops Twitter vs a discord channel. I'd say ours is more accurate
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Dec 10, 2018 16:18:13 GMT
if you accept the game for what it is That is indeed the key insight. Just because it's different doesn't mean it's not fun to play!
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Post by chococri on Dec 10, 2018 17:35:47 GMT
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Post by officerdonnz on Dec 10, 2018 18:38:11 GMT
if you accept the game for what it is That is indeed the key insight. Just because it's different doesn't mean it's not fun to play! Indeed. Hearing and seeing all the information can only do so much. There is nothing like getting your hands on the game. Dispite it being an alpha and all the shortcomings that implies I was surprised by how much I enjoyed myself. I finally understood the game is the best way to put it.
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Post by SofaJockey on Dec 10, 2018 18:40:02 GMT
There is nothing like getting your hands on the game. So much this.
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Post by river82 on Dec 10, 2018 19:23:46 GMT
Translation for anyone interested: The echo chamber I reside in echoes my own thoughts back at me. This must be proof universal and undeniable that my thoughts on the game are the correct ones. I heard it's pretty, the combat is good, the flying is terrible, and it feels like a dull by-the-numbers AAA game. So I guess I must be hanging around the parts of the internet where people crawl a lot xD EDIT: I've heard specifics but I'm not posting them. Suuuure, but I bet Arcanist echo chamber is bigger than yours. edit: oops Twitter vs a discord channel. Except I did not come on here and say "Oh wow, from everything I've seen the feedback is almost all negative. Except I haven't gone to places that are beneath me to go" because I recognise that I have limited exposure. The idea that the feedback has been universally positive is just absurd.
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Post by correctamundo on Dec 10, 2018 19:49:11 GMT
Suuuure, but I bet Arcanist echo chamber is bigger than yours. edit: oops Twitter vs a discord channel. Except I did not come on here and say "Oh wow, from everything I've seen the feedback is almost all negative. Except I haven't gone to places that are beneath me to go" because I recognise that I have limited exposure. The idea that the feedback has been universally positive is just absurd. This is the HYPE train. Get on board or crawl back in to your echo chamber of negativity.
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Post by river82 on Dec 10, 2018 19:54:02 GMT
Except I did not come on here and say "Oh wow, from everything I've seen the feedback is almost all negative. Except I haven't gone to places that are beneath me to go" because I recognise that I have limited exposure. The idea that the feedback has been universally positive is just absurd. This is the HYPE train. Get on board or crawl back in to your echo chamber of negativity. The hype train isn't for a) perpetuating the misrepresentation of reality to make yourself feel better. Nor is it b ) for having a dig at anybody who has a criticism about the game. It is for sharing your general positive feelings about the game.
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Post by correctamundo on Dec 10, 2018 19:56:53 GMT
This is the HYPE train. Get on board or crawl back in to your echo chamber of negativity. The hype train isn't for a) perpetuating the misrepresentation of reality to make yourself feel better. Nor is it b ) for having a dig at anybody who has a criticism about the game. It is for sharing your general positive feelings about the game. Misrepresentation. Like you said, sharing general positive feelings, thus get on board or crawl back.
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Post by river82 on Dec 10, 2018 19:58:38 GMT
The hype train isn't for a) perpetuating the misrepresentation of reality to make yourself feel better. Nor is it b ) for having a dig at anybody who has a criticism about the game. It is for sharing your general positive feelings about the game. Misrepresentation. Like you said, sharing general positive feelings, thus get on board or crawl back. Yes, misrepresentation. Did you want to have a discussion about that, or did you want to continue to just laugh and giggle inanely?
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Post by correctamundo on Dec 10, 2018 20:04:53 GMT
Misrepresentation. Like you said, sharing general positive feelings, thus get on board or crawl back. Yes, misrepresentation. Did you want to have a discussion about that, or did you want to continue to just laugh and giggle inanely? Wow, you can't even comprehend your own writing. Impressive. I can't see any general positive feelings about Anthem in that post either. All while the hype is gaining momentum.
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