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Post by alineinabook on Sept 22, 2016 21:21:30 GMT
Who is your boyfriend? Did I play with him? That would be lownois3. We're usually playing together for about an hour during the evening. I think you've landed in our lobby a bunch of times recently.
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Post by SassaMFG on Sept 22, 2016 21:40:04 GMT
Who is your boyfriend? Did I play with him? That would be lownois3. We're usually playing together for about an hour during the evening. I think you've landed in our lobby a bunch of times recently. You should teach him how not to die as level 1... And I forgot... You're damn good without PI.
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Post by kalas on Sept 22, 2016 22:08:44 GMT
my framerate has been dropping these last few days. i hope it is something with the server and not my crapbox.
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Post by husteen on Sept 23, 2016 1:29:23 GMT
This next story is a short one. I was playing ferelden castle perilous (this was before nightmare difficulty) with two pugs, and i noticed a low level assassin join. He was either level 3 or 5. I was the only one with a mic, so i told the other players a low level joined and it was up to them whether they wanted to carry someone. A few seconds later, there's two skulls on his name, so i added my vote to kick. I'm thinking that's the end of it, nd we just continue playing, but a little bit before we finish the zone, i get this beauty of a message: I like how he took the time to capitalize the F word haha. I normally like carrying people, but i kind of didn't feel like it that day. Neither did the others, apparently. After playing a few easy games with the boyfriend, SassaMFG and a random with the Avvar and the Arcane Warrior, I decided to try the Templar again, since my constitution is lagging far behind the other two stats. Warriors just aren't really fun for me to play. Apparently the game decided this should be even more fun for me and stopped loading the map! Luckily it was the boyfriend's lobby and I could rejoin before another player took my place. Thought it would be fixed in the next match, but alas, it wasn't. Sassa and another random seemed to have the same problem in one zone. Sassa left and another player joined, but I couldn't actually see him on the map. In the next zone I didn't have any enemies and when I tried to rejoin the lobby, Sassa had taken my place. Maybe I'm just not supposed to enjoy playing warriors. That's what i was talking about in my earlier post, except it happened in the beginning of zone 3, the door to zone 5, and the stairs on zone 5 By the way, if you're trying to get your constitution up, i vote for the reaver. I'm a mage guy, but i ended up maining the reaver for i think a few months. She may have a small learning curve for staying alive, but once you figure it out, she's so much fun.
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Post by 3y3vr3 on Sept 23, 2016 4:45:34 GMT
This next story is a short one. I was playing ferelden castle perilous (this was before nightmare difficulty) with two pugs, and i noticed a low level assassin join. He was either level 3 or 5. I was the only one with a mic, so i told the other players a low level joined and it was up to them whether they wanted to carry someone. A few seconds later, there's two skulls on his name, so i added my vote to kick. I'm thinking that's the end of it, nd we just continue playing, but a little bit before we finish the zone, i get this beauty of a message: I like how he took the time to capitalize the F word haha. I normally like carrying people, but i kind of didn't feel like it that day. Neither did the others, apparently. He did have a point about kicking a low level without knowing their status, gears or skills...Just not sure if he was as good as he claimed himself to be.
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Post by husteen on Sept 23, 2016 5:57:57 GMT
He did have a point about kicking a low level without knowing their status, gears or skills...Just not sure if he was as good as he claimed himself to be. Well I took level 1s into perilous after i got hakkons, drakescale armor, and lots of promotions, but it wasn't common practice before the nightmare update. Not the lobbies i played in, anyways. I believe i was still trying to get dragon weapons at that time... I think he heard me tell the other players he joined, and got mad. I never saw him before or after that, so i have no idea what his promotions were. I just remember thinking he doesn't even have the stealth cooldown removal passive (can't remember the name). There's definitely ways he could have handled it better, especially if he was as experienced as he led on. I remember i told my friend what happened and showed him the message, and he goes "no class at all." hahaha.
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Post by alineinabook on Sept 23, 2016 6:42:33 GMT
And I forgot... You're damn good without PI. Thanks. I actually have the amulet, I just enjoy shorter cooldown times more, especially on characters that don't have any passives that reduce them. By the way, if you're trying to get your constitution up, I vote for the Reaver. I'm a mage guy, but I ended up maining the Reaver for I think a few months. She may have a small learning curve for staying alive, but once you figure it out, she's so much fun. I actually already finished my 250 games with the Legionnaire and the Reaver, but those were a pain. I really, really, really don't like playing warriors, but I wan't to max out the resistances and just get a bit more health. Sadly there are no more Double XP weekends. I think I promoted my Legionnaire over 30 times during one of those. Good times.
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Post by 3y3vr3 on Sept 23, 2016 7:45:35 GMT
Well I took level 1s into perilous after i got hakkons, drakescale armor, and lots of promotions, but it wasn't common practice before the nightmare update. Not the lobbies i played in, anyways. I believe i was still trying to get dragon weapons at that time... I think he heard me tell the other players he joined, and got mad. I never saw him before or after that, so i have no idea what his promotions were. I just remember thinking he doesn't even have the stealth cooldown removal passive (can't remember the name). There's definitely ways he could have handled it better, especially if he was as experienced as he led on. I remember i told my friend what happened and showed him the message, and he goes "no class at all." hahaha. I think for a low-leveled assassin, it's possible to survive in perilous even without "I was never here"(the stealth cooldown removal passive) if he hides well and only strikes when necessary. Of course he will need some decent gears(at least purple armor and level 20+ daggers I suppose). But I only started playing after the NM update when it's common for highly promoted players to bring level 1s into perilous lobby... so not really sure what it was like before... And I agree the way he expressed his frustration was anything but proof that he was a good player. Truly skilled players usually just laugh it off. Making such a scene over being kicked only indicated his lack of self-confidence deep down.
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Post by 3y3vr3 on Sept 23, 2016 8:06:06 GMT
Thanks. I actually have the amulet, I just enjoy shorter cooldown times more, especially on characters that don't have any passives that reduce them. Finally find someone else who has PI but doesn't use it.
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Post by Silversmurf on Sept 23, 2016 8:47:35 GMT
This next story is a short one. I was playing ferelden castle perilous (this was before nightmare difficulty) with two pugs, and i noticed a low level assassin join. He was either level 3 or 5. I was the only one with a mic, so i told the other players a low level joined and it was up to them whether they wanted to carry someone. A few seconds later, there's two skulls on his name, so i added my vote to kick. I'm thinking that's the end of it, nd we just continue playing, but a little bit before we finish the zone, i get this beauty of a message: I like how he took the time to capitalize the F word haha. I normally like carrying people, but i kind of didn't feel like it that day. Neither did the others, apparently. He did have a point about kicking a low level without knowing their status, gears or skills...Just not sure if he was as good as he claimed himself to be. To hell with gear or skill, I would have kicked as soon as I saw he was playing Assassin
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Post by husteen on Sept 23, 2016 10:33:42 GMT
The next chapter of Husteen's pugs from hell! I guess this one would be in the hakkon cock-block category. So we already talked about low levels in old-perilous, but what about level 1s in nightmare? A keeper, to be exact. Where to start... Three of us are playing fc nightmare, hakkon grinding for me, and we get the demon faction. I loved fighting the demons, but if there is a zone to worry about, it's zone 4 with all those ice putas! It's the end of zone 3 when the level 1 keeper joins. The player's name was masterblastrr, the spelling was something like that. To his defense, he allegedly had lots of promotions, but how nuts would i have to be to make a further gamble with already miserable hakkon rates? You see, i got a little ancy near the end when it came to hakkons and wasted runs. Anyways, i put a skull on him confident the others dont want to risk it either, but they never did. Zone 4 starts, and the keeper's staying alive fine. Doing all she can with the weak, slow barrier and basic chain lightning. I'm clawing all the ice putas, doing my reaver thing, and i notice that someone goes down. I go back to the front, and it looked like the keeper and archer were fighting a rage demon by themselves. Everyone starts going down, getting revived, you know the drill. I use both my ice tonics, but we get overwhelmed by ice demons and die. Again, to the keeper's defense, i think he was the last one to die, but it still goes to show you shouldn't get too cocky. He went to level 16, so i guess he was fine with it. No one wanted to play with him after that. By the way, a level 1 reaver joined our nightmare game once. He eventually went down because of a red templar whorer... Horror. (the one with the aoe rage mode thing, not sure of the names anymore). I was impressed. The other guys knew him; he apparently had lots of const. I think for a low-leveled assassin, it's possible to survive in perilous even without "I was never here"(the stealth cooldown removal passive) if he hides well and only strikes when necessary. Of course he will need some decent gears(at least purple armor and level 20+ daggers I suppose). But I only started playing after the NM update when it's common for highly promoted players to bring level 1s into perilous lobby... so not really sure what it was like before... And I agree the way he expressed his frustration was anything but proof that he was a good player. Truly skilled players usually just laugh it off. Making such a scene over being kicked only indicated his lack of self-confidence deep down. Oh, when i first started playing, they would kick low levels out of threatening haha. Maybe level 7 or lower. It obviously got less strict over time, but rng was a beech, builds weren't optimized, we didn't know as much about the game, etc. When nightmare came out, my friend said it's like perilous when the game was new; i think that's a good comparison. Now i sound like an old man who needs to get out of the way-back machine! P.s. they don't do double xp weekends anymore? Not even on ps4? That's very, very unfortunate.
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Post by 3y3vr3 on Sept 23, 2016 10:39:40 GMT
To hell with gear or skill, I would have kicked as soon as I saw he was playing Assassin Your kick, your choice. But why hate assassin so much? I think she's a softie behind her mask
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Post by caldyrvan on Sept 23, 2016 11:24:20 GMT
I think Silversmurf is referring to the Assassin as a very bad, maybe the worst, XP generating agent.
I usually kick players who are leeching or purpose and/or those who die just because an enemy is looking at them.
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Post by 3y3vr3 on Sept 23, 2016 11:51:30 GMT
Oh, when i first started playing, they would kick low levels out of threatening haha. Maybe level 7 or lower. It obviously got less strict over time, but rng was a beech, builds weren't optimized, we didn't know as much about the game, etc. When nightmare came out, my friend said it's like perilous when the game was new; i think that's a good comparison. Now i sound like an old man who needs to get out of the way-back machine! P.s. they don't do double xp weekends anymore? Not even on ps4? That's very, very unfortunate. I do feel that the way you're telling the pug stories makes them sound like they happened ages ago. Maybe there is a generation gap between players before and after the dragonslayer expansion? LOL And yes support already ended so no more weekly events or double xp weekend. It's frustrating especially for new players because it'll take them quite a while to grind for hakkons with the abyssal drop rate. Many stopped playing because of the annoying bugs, unrewarding RNG and the long slow grinding for promotion. I still see new players joining pugs regularly but unless they can find some people they enjoy playing with, I doubt most of them would stick around long
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Post by 3y3vr3 on Sept 23, 2016 11:56:56 GMT
I think Silversmurf is referring to the Assassin as a very bad, maybe the worst, XP generating agent. I usually kick players who are leeching or purpose and/or those who die just because an enemy is looking at them. But she's still fun to play...at least more fun than the silent abomination I think
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Post by Silversmurf on Sept 23, 2016 12:03:15 GMT
Before Nightmare existed Assassins (without their passives) were beyond useless. Level 3 or 5 ? on old Perilous....yikes man. Liability.
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Post by Gilli on Sept 23, 2016 12:20:57 GMT
Thanks. I actually have the amulet, I just enjoy shorter cooldown times more, especially on characters that don't have any passives that reduce them. Finally find someone else who has PI but doesn't use it. Does it count if I only use it on my warriors, Silent Sister and AW? Prefer Amulet of Reneval on Zither and Archer and Cooldown Amulet on the others. Tho I can't remember what I use on Saarebas, she doesn't need those two.
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Post by 3y3vr3 on Sept 23, 2016 12:41:40 GMT
Before Nightmare existed Assassins (without their passives) were beyond useless. Level 3 or 5 ? on old Perilous....yikes man. Liability. There I see the generation gap again
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Post by 3y3vr3 on Sept 23, 2016 13:02:29 GMT
Finally find someone else who has PI but doesn't use it. Does it count if I only use it on my warriors, Silent Sister and AW? Prefer Amulet of Reneval on Zither and Archer and Cooldown Amulet on the others. Tho I can't remember what I use on Saarebas, she doesn't need those two. Of course it counts. I still wear it on all my warriors but I'm planning to replace it with amulet of aggression. Sarrebas has PI too because I have no idea what other amulet to put on her... keeper and duelist wear cooldown amulet. On Zither! of course it's amulet of renewal. Luka has stamina amulet. Other mages/rogues wear amulet of magic/dexterity respectively. One exception when I switch back to PI is playing HB as a support mage. Venatori mages knocking me down with stone fist on final wave is very annoying and I'll feel very bad if we wipe when I am resting on the floor with no one else casting barrier well silent sister I don't really care. Haven't played her for almost a year
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Post by lcneed on Sept 23, 2016 13:56:53 GMT
Oh, when i first started playing, they would kick low levels out of threatening haha. Maybe level 7 or lower. It obviously got less strict over time, but rng was a beech, builds weren't optimized, we didn't know as much about the game, etc. When nightmare came out, my friend said it's like perilous when the game was new; i think that's a good comparison. Now i sound like an old man who needs to get out of the way-back machine! P.s. they don't do double xp weekends anymore? Not even on ps4? That's very, very unfortunate. I do feel that the way you're telling the pug stories makes them sound like they happened ages ago. Maybe there is a generation gap between players before and after the dragonslayer expansion? Na, it is just because he is probably on console not PC. Seriously I have not seen any level 1 get kicked forever on the pc.. US region. But then it is also very rare to see any match that fails. Usually whoever host the match could solo it so there is really no reason to kick anyone. I rather carry 3 in the fade than solo a match, as least I know someone could benefit from the match.
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Post by lcneed on Sept 23, 2016 14:03:03 GMT
Does it count if I only use it on my warriors, Silent Sister and AW? Prefer Amulet of Reneval on Zither and Archer and Cooldown Amulet on the others. Tho I can't remember what I use on Saarebas, she doesn't need those two. Of course it counts. I still wear it on all my warriors but I'm planning to replace it with amulet of aggression. Sarrebas has PI too because I have no idea what other amulet to put on her... keeper and duelist wear cooldown amulet. On Zither! of course it's amulet of renewal. Luka has stamina amulet. Other mages/rogues wear amulet of magic/dexterity respectively. One exception when I switch back to PI is playing HB as a support mage. Venatori mages knocking me down with stone fist on final wave is very annoying and I'll feel very bad if we wipe when I am resting on the floor with no one else casting barrier well silent sister I don't really care. Haven't played her for almost a year I don't know how you guys could not wear the PI amulet. It only took me a few times where I could not get the Heirloom to put the PI back. When you are invincible and you still could not finish the circles without being interrupted by little dinosaurs or shield guys you know you can't live without the PI.
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Post by Silversmurf on Sept 23, 2016 14:07:34 GMT
PI makes bad players worse and good players lazy. I fall into the latter category obviously I feel I was a much "better" player when I had to worry about fade cloak and combat roll. Now all I have to worry about is face roll. Of course I could take off the PI but like I said, it's made me lazy. Sometimes I can just stand in the middle and spam bacon barrage with my eyes closed. Then open them again when I hear the key drop.
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Post by SassaMFG on Sept 23, 2016 15:01:23 GMT
PI makes bad players worse and good players lazy. QFT I would change bad to under promoted and good to over promoted.
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Post by Gilli on Sept 23, 2016 15:09:48 GMT
Does it count if I only use it on my warriors, Silent Sister and AW? Prefer Amulet of Reneval on Zither and Archer and Cooldown Amulet on the others. Tho I can't remember what I use on Saarebas, she doesn't need those two. Of course it counts. I still wear it on all my warriors but I'm planning to replace it with amulet of aggression. Sarrebas has PI too because I have no idea what other amulet to put on her... keeper and duelist wear cooldown amulet. On Zither! of course it's amulet of renewal. Luka has stamina amulet. Other mages/rogues wear amulet of magic/dexterity respectively. One exception when I switch back to PI is playing HB as a support mage. Venatori mages knocking me down with stone fist on final wave is very annoying and I'll feel very bad if we wipe when I am resting on the floor with no one else casting barrier well silent sister I don't really care. Haven't played her for almost a year Good I tried that one once, didn't seem to do much, the enemies were more interested in the Izzy I was playing with then my Lego Same, haven't played her in some tome time until yesterday. Had totally forgotten she was on Lvl 18 I think I'm leaving her on Lvl 20 for those unforseeable "Hey let's do NM!" moments, when I have no one else ready. Of course it counts. I still wear it on all my warriors but I'm planning to replace it with amulet of aggression. Sarrebas has PI too because I have no idea what other amulet to put on her... keeper and duelist wear cooldown amulet. On Zither! of course it's amulet of renewal. Luka has stamina amulet. Other mages/rogues wear amulet of magic/dexterity respectively. One exception when I switch back to PI is playing HB as a support mage. Venatori mages knocking me down with stone fist on final wave is very annoying and I'll feel very bad if we wipe when I am resting on the floor with no one else casting barrier well silent sister I don't really care. Haven't played her for almost a year I don't know how you guys could not wear the PI amulet. It only took me a few times where I could not get the Heirloom to put the PI back. When you are invincible and you still could not finish the circles without being interrupted by little dinosaurs or shield guys you know you can't live without the PI. When I just had gotten the PI I tried it on my Archer, just to look how he would play. I died in Zone 1 Threatening, because I didn't notice when I got hit by something (I'm too focused on fighting as that I would look at my health bar ) So no PI for him, or others who can't take a hit. PI makes bad players worse and good players lazy. QFT I would change bad to under promoted and good to over promoted. The first would be me (tho 103/116/115 is probably not underpromoted, but playing with people with higher stats, I still feel like I am )
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Post by Silversmurf on Sept 23, 2016 15:13:03 GMT
PI makes bad players worse and good players lazy. QFT I would change bad to under promoted and good to over promoted. I stand by my statement as I include "decision making" and "positioning" in my analysis. I've seen low promoted players play really well and high promoted players play really badly.
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