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Post by Silversmurf on Oct 5, 2016 15:24:03 GMT
I have a question about nightmare and the vents, on one wave the mages even with no barriers were immune to lightning attacks/spirit damage. My staff was getting 1 point for its spirit bonus and my chain lightning was giving crap damage. The next wave it seemed back to normal, still not tons of damage but I was not getting a bunch of 1,1,1,1,1 on the screen. Lightning mages and spellbinders are immune to lightning on nightmare. I think all mages/spellbinders are immune to their own element and highly resistance to other elements if they have a barrier. I am not sure who is immune to spirit damage though with the venatori ... Think of each zone as having a random element when it comes to Venatori. I noticed this very early on. Sometimes it's Lightning, sometimes it's Fire, sometime's it's Ice. Final zone is always Lightning. I went an entire round not getting lightning on zones 1-4. That was amazing as Arcane Warrior. EDIT: Of course, when you get a Druffy match and reach zone 4 it has all 3 bloody types at once EDIT 2: I'll ignore the 1, 1, 1, 1 Spirit damage as you were obviously drunk.
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Post by lcneed on Oct 5, 2016 16:12:27 GMT
Lightning mages and spellbinders are immune to lightning on nightmare. I think all mages/spellbinders are immune to their own element and highly resistance to other elements if they have a barrier. I am not sure who is immune to spirit damage though with the venatori ... EDIT 2: I'll ignore the 1, 1, 1, 1 Spirit damage as you were obviously drunk. I have actually seen a leaderboarder spirit blading at saarebas and qunari assassins multiple times during a NM match. I definitely saw lots of 1, 1, 1, 1 spirit damage on That match.
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Post by Terrell on Oct 5, 2016 16:14:14 GMT
If by random you mean 96% of the time, it's electric mages, I agree.
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Post by SassaMFG on Oct 5, 2016 16:57:14 GMT
In my case: Zone 1 - random mix of two elements Zone 2 - ice, electric mix Zone 3 - electric Zone 4 - ice
This is NM pattern.
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Post by kalas on Oct 5, 2016 17:19:00 GMT
@katsu thx Proto. what do you use as your fourth ability?
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Post by lcneed on Oct 5, 2016 17:40:59 GMT
If by random you mean 96% of the time, it's electric mages, I agree. I wish all of them are electric mages. All my mages got the electric resist mod on the robe. All my rogues and warriors wear electric resist belt. I could step on those electric mines/slide all day long. But sometime when I am mistaken ice mine as lightning.. ouchie. I didn't know ice could hurt.....
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Post by Terrell on Oct 5, 2016 17:49:05 GMT
If by random you mean 96% of the time, it's electric mages, I agree. I wish all of them are electric mages. All my mages got the electric resist mod on the robe. All my rogues and warriors wear electric resist belt. I could step on those electric mines/slide all day long. But sometime when I am mistaken ice mine as lightning.. ouchie. I didn't know ice could hurt..... I feel like the elemental resistance items have a significant diminishing return as willpower approaches 170. You should try a few games without them and see if it is still worth it over, say, the 200hp belt. Edit: but I guess if ice mines still hurt, that would prove your point.
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Post by Silversmurf on Oct 5, 2016 18:32:22 GMT
If by random you mean 96% of the time, it's electric mages, I agree. I've not had a full 5 zone electric match in a long long time. Most times at least 2 zones are either fire or ice, which puts it somewhere between 40%-60% zones are Electric. Given that zone 5 is always electric, you can take the % from zones 1 to 4 and say it's more like 50/50
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Post by Silversmurf on Oct 5, 2016 18:41:07 GMT
In my case: Zone 1 - random mix of two elements Zone 2 - ice, electric mix Zone 3 - electric Zone 4 - ice This is NM pattern. That's surprising. I can't say I recall a mixed one... PC master race?
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Post by Minuos on Oct 5, 2016 19:11:05 GMT
I wish all of them are electric mages. All my mages got the electric resist mod on the robe. All my rogues and warriors wear electric resist belt. I could step on those electric mines/slide all day long. But sometime when I am mistaken ice mine as lightning.. ouchie. I didn't know ice could hurt..... I feel like the elemental resistance items have a significant diminishing return as willpower approaches 170. You should try a few games without them and see if it is still worth it over, say, the 200hp belt. Edit: but I guess if ice mines still hurt, that would prove your point. It's blocking a percentage of a percentage, so it is significant. At 170 Willpower, resistance will block the stated percentage of the damage you'd take without it, but that damage will only be 20% of the original damage, so resistance essentially becomes 20% effective... Despite the fact that -32% is still -32%. Percentages, yo. 80% defense + 32% resistance = 86.4% overall reduction.
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Post by lcneed on Oct 5, 2016 19:21:42 GMT
I feel like the elemental resistance items have a significant diminishing return as willpower approaches 170. You should try a few games without them and see if it is still worth it over, say, the 200hp belt. Edit: but I guess if ice mines still hurt, that would prove your point. It's blocking a percentage of a percentage, so it is significant. At 170 Willpower, resistance will block the stated percentage of the damage you'd take without it, but that damage will only be 20% of the original damage, so resistance essentially becomes 20% effective... Despite the fact that -32% is still -32%. Percentages, yo. 80% defense + 32% resistance = 86.4% overall reduction. And I am not sure if there is a cap on resistance, but on map 5 venatori, someone always pop a lightning potion (50%?) which I don't carry anymore. I believe the lightning pot stacks with the belt/mod resist... I mean those lightning mages really do no damage. This is going to be fun. I will take my AW with his lightning resist armor.. wear the lightning resist belt... pop the lightning potion.. and stand in the lightning dragon spit and see if he takes any damage at all LOL
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Post by Proto on Oct 5, 2016 19:55:05 GMT
@katsu thx Proto. what do you use as your fourth ability? Charging Bull Mighty Blow Combat Roll To The Death Once I got the PI amulet I started using Pommel Strike.
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Post by SassaMFG on Oct 5, 2016 22:05:34 GMT
In my case: Zone 1 - random mix of two elements Zone 2 - ice, electric mix Zone 3 - electric Zone 4 - ice This is NM pattern. That's surprising. I can't say I recall a mixed one... PC master race? Yup. Zone 1 mix is rare, usualy fire there, but zone 2 mix is common.
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Post by kalas on Oct 6, 2016 4:51:53 GMT
servers arent working properly. cant even make my own game. :\
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Post by Terrell on Oct 6, 2016 5:41:10 GMT
Playing with two other highly promoted players in NM PUGs, one of which is a leaderboarder. When I get in the game, the leaderboarder is sitting at the beginning of the zone, not moving. The other player is basically soloing. I joined late but the match end screen said it was 50 minutes long... The next game, a highly promoted friend joins and together, all 4 of us finish a match in 11 minutes. The next game, the leaderboarder doesn't move at all until zone 5. We complete that one. The next game, the leaderboarder doesn't move and the other original person who is now a level 1 AW doesn't move from the starting area either, leaving it up to me and my friend. Now I'm feeling taken advantage of a little. I think my friend felt the same way since he either quit or got disconnected. So now it is me alone as a low level pact belt AW against Qunari. Yes, one of the worst possible scenarios. I'm doing okay but going kind of slow. Finally, the leaderboarder steps in to help. The two of us clear that zone and the next while the level 1 AW doesn't move. Assassins get the level 1 but I don't go back to revive because what's the point if they aren't moving anyway right? Me and leaderboarder get to zone 4 which is the fog level. I'm not running the torch since I have the pact belt. Leaderboarder reluctantly picks it up and thoroughly confuses me with what he does next. He takes the torch and starts running back to the zone beginning... I'm stupified and don't move. One assassin back stabs my pact belt AW and triggered my guardian spirit. Another assassin dispels this barrier, and the fog immediately kills me after that. Full health to dead in about a half second. The leaderboarder had the torch at the zone beginning, eventually realized I'm down and tries to run back to revive me or so I think was his intention. He doesn't make it in time and now has to try to solo the round as the Necromancer. He can't do it and is downed and the match is failed... At the results screen, my game promptly and symbolically crashes to desktop (I would have left anyway after all that). What a strange game indeed.
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Post by kalas on Oct 6, 2016 7:57:26 GMT
ran into another person with the crescent weapon. :\
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Post by lcneed on Oct 6, 2016 13:08:47 GMT
Playing with two other highly promoted players in NM PUGs, one of which is a leaderboarder. When I get in the game, the leaderboarder is sitting at the beginning of the zone, not moving. The other player is basically soloing. I joined late but the match end screen said it was 50 minutes long... The next game, a highly promoted friend joins and together, all 4 of us finish a match in 11 minutes. The next game, the leaderboarder doesn't move at all until zone 5. We complete that one. The next game, the leaderboarder doesn't move and the other original person who is now a level 1 AW doesn't move from the starting area either, leaving it up to me and my friend. Now I'm feeling taken advantage of a little. I think my friend felt the same way since he either quit or got disconnected. So now it is me alone as a low level pact belt AW against Qunari. Yes, one of the worst possible scenarios. I'm doing okay but going kind of slow. Finally, the leaderboarder steps in to help. The two of us clear that zone and the next while the level 1 AW doesn't move. Assassins get the level 1 but I don't go back to revive because what's the point if they aren't moving anyway right? Me and leaderboarder get to zone 4 which is the fog level. I'm not running the torch since I have the pact belt. Leaderboarder reluctantly picks it up and thoroughly confuses me with what he does next. He takes the torch and starts running back to the zone beginning... I'm stupified and don't move. One assassin back stabs my pact belt AW and triggered my guardian spirit. Another assassin dispels this barrier, and the fog immediately kills me after that. Full health to dead in about a half second. The leaderboarder had the torch at the zone beginning, eventually realized I'm down and tries to run back to revive me or so I think was his intention. He doesn't make it in time and now has to try to solo the round as the Necromancer. He can't do it and is downed and the match is failed... At the results screen, my game promptly and symbolically crashes to desktop (I would have left anyway after all that). What a strange game indeed. You took the red pill didn't you?
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Post by Beerfish on Oct 6, 2016 17:27:25 GMT
So what is it with people that smoke dope and want the world to know they are smoking dope as they play mp? Same situation as when I played ME3MP, they seem obligated to give the big suck puff (or coughing like the guy last night) as loud as possible. I could care less if they smoke it or not but people seem to go out of their way to let their team mates know this for some reason.
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Post by coldwetn0se on Oct 6, 2016 17:33:50 GMT
So what is it with people that smoke dope and want the world to know they are smoking dope as they play mp? Same situation as when I played ME3MP, they seem obligated to give the big suck puff (or coughing like the guy last night) as loud as possible. I could care less if they smoke it or not but people seem to go out of their way to let their team mates know this for some reason. I got into a similar pug a number of months ago. Every five or so minutes, you could distinctly make out the "bubbling" noises of a bong. And quite a bit of giggling. At least they played alright...sort of. Stuck with the two (yes, there were two - guessing they were friends, by the way they were talking), for a few matches, then finally left when one went afk for multiple zones. That was enough for me.
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Post by lcneed on Oct 6, 2016 18:59:09 GMT
So what is it with people that smoke dope and want the world to know they are smoking dope as they play mp? Same situation as when I played ME3MP, they seem obligated to give the big suck puff (or coughing like the guy last night) as loud as possible. I could care less if they smoke it or not but people seem to go out of their way to let their team mates know this for some reason. I don't think they are trying to let people know.. but most of them just don't care. I rather hearing bubbling sound (I just pretend they are blowing bubble thru the straw into their soda) than hearing constant cussing. A long time ago, I was in a threatening PUG where these 2 guys (obviously RL friends) constantly cussing at each others. I had to mute them eventually.
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Post by kalas on Oct 6, 2016 23:11:16 GMT
played some games with the hunter. not as effective as the archer but hook and tackle is fun.
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Post by 3y3vr3 on Oct 7, 2016 0:47:00 GMT
So what is it with people that smoke dope and want the world to know they are smoking dope as they play mp? Same situation as when I played ME3MP, they seem obligated to give the big suck puff (or coughing like the guy last night) as loud as possible. I could care less if they smoke it or not but people seem to go out of their way to let their team mates know this for some reason. I don't think they are trying to let people know.. but most of them just don't care. I rather hearing bubbling sound (I just pretend they are blowing bubble thru the straw into their soda) than hearing constant cussing. A long time ago, I was in a threatening PUG where these 2 guys (obviously RL friends) constantly cussing at each others. I had to mute them eventually. Maybe they are...indeed blowing bubbles... As it is said: "On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog"
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Post by caldyrvan on Oct 7, 2016 2:43:51 GMT
It has nothing to do with dope, some people simply do not know/want/care how to behave. Same as with drunk persons. The substance is a bad excuse.
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Post by kalas on Oct 7, 2016 13:28:22 GMT
defend the captain objective is so rigged. walk into zone 4 guy dies immediately to a bolter.
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Post by lcneed on Oct 7, 2016 16:07:25 GMT
I think I am cursed. Last night I joined a PUG with one of my friend in it... he was playing duelist with the hook thing. After a while on map 5 he was stuck in the wall. It was quite funny didn't think much about it. So I went to bed after the match. This morning the first match I joined, a different friend joined with his saarebas. Lv 1 saare so lots of leaping around. After while I see the white dot not moving.. went to check it out.. he was playing house. Seriously he was stuck inside a house in OC map. I really wanted to say.. come out come out little piggy or I will blow down your house...
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