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Post by HunterKipling on Oct 21, 2016 0:14:23 GMT
I'm getting sick of the ever increasing every one run to the stairs in FC map top level when the dragon has not been called strat. I'm getting sick of the ever increasing every one run to the stairs in FC map top level when the dragon has not been called strat. I do that only if all my pugs are dead. If someone insist to camp on the stairs, I love to stand in the center of the zone with my mages. I do that only if all my pugs are dead. If someone insist to camp on the stairs, I love to stand in the center of the zone with my mages. I always thought this is a cultural thing. Whenever I play in this region, it seems everyone like to stick together whether it is near the entrance on map 5 FC, or at the center in map 4, or at the end of map 3. When I go play in other regions.. it seem like personal space is top priority. Everyone tries to run as far away as possible from each others. No I am serious, it is very odd. At first I thought maybe it was just their style of play.. they like to be more mobile. But I did a test.. where I secretly close up to a Saare.. he/she immediately leap away. But if I watch him/her from afar, he/she just did barrage and AB in place. It has got to be a personal space issue. I'm getting sick of the ever increasing every one run to the stairs in FC map top level when the dragon has not been called strat. That really grates when the rest of the party start up an "Over here!" chorus, particularly when I have SS or AW. I try to avoid dying by maintaining a high attack rate to keep up guard/barrier. I go where the crowd is thickest to avoid the competition. I always thought this is a cultural thing. Whenever I play in this region, it seems everyone like to stick together whether it is near the entrance on map 5 FC, or at the center in map 4, or at the end of map 3. When I go play in other regions.. it seem like personal space is top priority. Everyone tries to run as far away as possible from each others. No I am serious, it is very odd. At first I thought maybe it was just their style of play.. they like to be more mobile. But I did a test.. where I secretly close up to a Saare.. he/she immediately leap away. But if I watch him/her from afar, he/she just did barrage and AB in place. It has got to be a personal space issue. You will understand that when you grow up... I'm getting sick of the ever increasing every one run to the stairs in FC map top level when the dragon has not been called strat. Depends on class You'll find Saarebas, Arcane Warrior, Avvar etc. will want to camp stairs to maximize AoE. Whereas Assassin, Silent Sister, Katari etc. will want to fight in open. If there are 3 amazing AOE in the team PLUS a level 1 Legionnaire who just wants to fight in the middle....its just pure stupidity. (This actually happened and was a "friend") Make good use of the classes. Always fight Demons in the open regardless of classes If there are 2 AoE and 2 single target classes then it's unavoidable that someone will get frustrated. This requires serious psychological er... further analysis
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Post by HunterKipling on Oct 21, 2016 0:15:25 GMT
Just met fastest dying pug in DA:I Multiplayer history... Just met fastest dying pug in DA:I Multiplayer history... How? Did you kill them? Is that what you think of me? LOL btw, why does your portrait remind of "The Seven Year Itch"?
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Post by mfr001 on Oct 21, 2016 7:53:17 GMT
<snip> This requires serious psychological er... further analysis Oh dear, do you think that is wise? Rule 1: Don't ask a question unless you are really sure you want to know the answer. This put me in mind of a cartoon I saw somewhere many years ago: A vulture sitting with friends in a tree looks out over the land. "I've had enough of sitting up here waiting for something to die. I'm going down there to kill my dinner." A concise description of the two strategies?
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Post by wittyrover on Oct 21, 2016 20:36:54 GMT
Had a chance to visit NM again with Gekrakel and other good players.
I survived, mostly. (yeah,barely.) Though I had to use all kinds of potions. :p
After several matches, all my agents became lv 1. So I went back my usual routine- make a Threaten lobby, playing solo waiting for someone to join me.
I died at zone 1 in Threaten.
Still don't know what to do when my level 1 Pala bump into shield guys.
ugh. Time to go bed anyway.
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Post by Minuos on Oct 21, 2016 21:26:04 GMT
Still don't know what to do when my level 1 Pala bump into shield guys. My only suggestion is kiting them into doing their melee attack, moving out of reach and hitting them with Charging Bull while they're still vulnerable from the swing. Should give you time to move around their back while they get up. Doesn't really help when more than one of them want you to be the ball in their game of squash, though. That's where friends come in handy.
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Post by kalas on Oct 22, 2016 1:00:45 GMT
i solo'ed venatori hb up to zone5 fc. it was so easy until the fire mages.
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Post by SassaMFG on Oct 22, 2016 2:55:19 GMT
I hope that HunterKipling recorded those games we played today because I forgot.
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Post by HunterKipling on Oct 22, 2016 3:29:01 GMT
I hope that HunterKipling recorded those games we played today because I forgot. Sorry, just finished uploading them. 2 HB matches, both on Zone 5 only: SassaMFG Frank64Ger and Fellassan HB Match 1: SassaMFG Frank64Ger and Fellassan HB Match 2:
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Post by HunterKipling on Oct 22, 2016 3:37:30 GMT
Still don't know what to do when my level 1 Pala bump into shield guys. My only suggestion is kiting them into doing their melee attack, moving out of reach and hitting them with Charging Bull while they're still vulnerable from the swing. Should give you time to move around their back while they get up. Doesn't really help when more than one of them want you to be the ball in their game of squash, though. That's where friends come in handy. The dance with shield guys It's a poor example, but it's like Minuos explained. Get close enough for the swing then hit them and run...
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Post by wittyrover on Oct 22, 2016 5:41:44 GMT
Still don't know what to do when my level 1 Pala bump into shield guys. My only suggestion is kiting them into doing their melee attack, moving out of reach and hitting them with Charging Bull while they're still vulnerable from the swing. Should give you time to move around their back while they get up. Doesn't really help when more than one of them want you to be the ball in their game of squash, though. That's where friends come in handy. The dance with shield guys :) It's a poor example, but it's like Minuos explained. Get close enough for the swing then hit them and run... Thanks for great tips! I just tried this to Qunari defenders. Uh.. is my Pala not agile enough or is it my poor fingers. hahaha I guess I need some practice.
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Post by wittyrover on Oct 22, 2016 5:45:42 GMT
SassaMFG Frank64Ger and Fellassan HB Match 2: It's red templar faction... then why demon commanders are there? :0
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Post by Terrell on Oct 22, 2016 6:21:05 GMT
SassaMFG Frank64Ger and Fellassan HB Match 2: It's red templar faction... then why demon commanders are there? :0 This is the heartbreaker difficulty level which is the highest and hardest level. In addition to possibly having agents from multiple factions in the early zones, the final zone has many commanders spawned at once. Not sure of the exact number of commanders in the final zone since any time I've played heartbreaker, I'm trying to stay alive rather than count many commanders but I think it is around 6 commanders at once for any non castle map. The enemies in all the zones also have additional abilities that they don't have in other difficulties. Some examples are they will use shield bash, leaping shot, dispel, fade cloak (extremely annoying), stone fist, blizzard and ice mine, fire mine, even turn on friendly fire briefly, and various other things, all with the addition of alot of enemies having full guard and barrier spam.
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Post by SassaMFG on Oct 22, 2016 11:38:35 GMT
I hope that HunterKipling recorded those games we played today because I forgot. Sorry, just finished uploading them. 2 HB matches, both on Zone 5 only: SassaMFG Frank64Ger and Fellassan HB Match 1: video SassaMFG Frank64Ger and Fellassan HB Match 2: video Lots of fun, especially against RT. I missed you by an inch with Shield Bash and Fellassan almost killed me with Devour during confusion in zone 4.
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Post by Gekrakel (Mark) on Oct 22, 2016 14:14:13 GMT
Thanks for great tips! I just tried this to Qunari defenders. Uh.. is my Pala not agile enough or is it my poor fingers. hahaha I guess I need some practice. Well, the PI amulet really helps ( I'm looking at you Hunter.. :: chuckle :: ) I just stopped solo-ing with her for quite a while. It helps when there are others to distract them. EDIT: You could try the duelist, if you have decent daggers for Pala. She is a bit more agile, especially with the passive that adds speed for each elusive stack. The build I use for her is Bolt, Flashing Steel, Flank Attack, and the hand cannon (Broadsides) and that is fairly defensive. EDIT: You could also try Combat Roll and Flashing Steel for the silent sister. Combat roll really helps until you get a PI.
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Post by 3y3vr3 on Oct 22, 2016 15:35:12 GMT
It's red templar faction... then why demon commanders are there? :0 Wavebend wrote a nice guide about Heartbreaker difficulty hereIt's the hardest of all levels but tons of fun playing together with friends. You got to try it someday.
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Post by caldyrvan on Oct 22, 2016 16:19:39 GMT
I always forget to count, how many Demon- / Venatori Commanders are there in Zone 5?
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Post by 3y3vr3 on Oct 22, 2016 17:02:48 GMT
I tried to keep track of them, but always lost count in the heat of battle
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Post by 3y3vr3 on Oct 22, 2016 17:24:57 GMT
My only suggestion is kiting them into doing their melee attack, moving out of reach and hitting them with Charging Bull while they're still vulnerable from the swing. Should give you time to move around their back while they get up. Doesn't really help when more than one of them want you to be the ball in their game of squash, though. That's where friends come in handy. The dance with shield guys It's a poor example, but it's like Minuos explained. Get close enough for the swing then hit them and run... Thanks for great tips! I just tried this to Qunari defenders. Uh.. is my Pala not agile enough or is it my poor fingers. hahaha I guess I need some practice. Do notice HunterKipling had PI on in the video so his silent sister wouldn't be knocked down when "dancing" with those 2 shield guys. As others has suggested get combat roll for her. Combat roll is an immensely useful skill for 2-handed warriors and silent sister. It can basically dodge ANYTHING, including Demon Commander's panic attack. Btw I'm curious if anyone has tried Parry on silent sister? How is it compared to combat roll?
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Post by Terrell on Oct 22, 2016 17:41:27 GMT
Admittedly, I only tried parry once many many moons ago but it was very underwhelming. The damage was either equal or less than basic attacks if I remember correctly. I think combat roll (which I also only took once... Back in the day before I had the PI amulet, I prided myself on my dodge and evasive maneuver skills) is a far better skill for this situation. You can at least get more than one hits in the back of shield guys by rolling around them. Or you could do the HunterK method and dodge their weapon swing and then attack. If you fail the dodge, you can still roll behind them.
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Post by SassaMFG on Oct 22, 2016 17:46:55 GMT
It's red templar faction... then why demon commanders are there? :0 Wavebend wrote a nice guide about Heartbreaker difficulty hereIt's the hardest of all levels but tons of fun playing together with friends. You got to try it someday. Unfortunately unlimited promotion mechanic made it a joke. With high enough stats you can breeze through with no problems at all. I always forget to count, how many Demon- / Venatori Commanders are there in Zone 5? I think I heard "Nooo!" scream five times yesterday.
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Post by caldyrvan on Oct 23, 2016 5:29:41 GMT
But she does not always scream e.g. when she is frozen while dying. I have to admit I have problems myself to scream while I'm frozen
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Post by SassaMFG on Oct 23, 2016 12:54:18 GMT
I wouldn't know, never been frozen...
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Post by HunterKipling on Oct 24, 2016 5:24:09 GMT
I wouldn't know, never been frozen... Not what I heard
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Post by caldyrvan on Oct 24, 2016 6:56:18 GMT
Maybe we should ask this guy
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Post by HunterKipling on Oct 24, 2016 12:55:40 GMT
Maybe we should ask this guy
I didn't know he had so many lines
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