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Post by griffith82 on Apr 19, 2018 20:39:37 GMT
Now that’s barf inducing. Nah, there's nothing more barf-inducing than Allers. IMO it is. She’s fine also IMO.
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Post by Sifr on Apr 19, 2018 21:04:26 GMT
Nah, there's nothing more barf-inducing than Allers. IMO it is. She’s fine also IMO. Really? Cause I found her line delivery a little... Chobotic. Emily and Khalisah would have been far better fits for ME3, since both had a pre-existing relationship with Shepard (for good or bad) since the first game. Rather than Shepard accepting a reporter on board, why not have had the Alliance and/or Council assign them onto the Normandy to drum up recruitment? And if Shepard objected, I'm sure someone could remind them of how lucky they were to not still be sitting out the war in a prison cell. Could even have gone further and had Allers, Wong and Al-Jilani all be on the ship, serving as a mini press corps that Shepard could interact with and occasionally field questions from. Or have the conceit be that the reporters aren't always on the ship, but occasionally are out in the field reporting from the front lines? Maybe even have one of them die during one of these assignments, leaving the others shaken? I dunno, they could have done way more with this premise, than "chat with Allers a couple times to bang her".
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 19, 2018 22:24:08 GMT
I have yet to dislike any of the reporters we've encountered in Mass Effect. Emily, Khalisah, Diana, and Keri are all enjoyable and likable imo.
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Post by griffith82 on Apr 20, 2018 0:30:31 GMT
IMO it is. She’s fine also IMO. Really? Cause I found her line delivery a little... Chobotic. Emily and Khalisah would have been far better fits for ME3, since both had a pre-existing relationship with Shepard (for good or bad) since the first game. Rather than Shepard accepting a reporter on board, why not have had the Alliance and/or Council assign them onto the Normandy to drum up recruitment? And if Shepard objected, I'm sure someone could remind them of how lucky they were to not still be sitting out the war in a prison cell. Could even have gone further and had Allers, Wong and Al-Jilani all be on the ship, serving as a mini press corps that Shepard could interact with and occasionally field questions from. Or have the conceit be that the reporters aren't always on the ship, but occasionally are out in the field reporting from the front lines? Maybe even have one of them die during one of these assignments, leaving the others shaken? I dunno, they could have done way more with this premise, than "chat with Allers a couple times to bang her". That’s part of the problem right there. Some didn’t like Jessica period. Also that is not what Allers is there for.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2018 12:27:48 GMT
IMO it is. She’s fine also IMO. Really? Cause I found her line delivery a little... Chobotic. Emily and Khalisah would have been far better fits for ME3, since both had a pre-existing relationship with Shepard (for good or bad) since the first game. Rather than Shepard accepting a reporter on board, why not have had the Alliance and/or Council assign them onto the Normandy to drum up recruitment? And if Shepard objected, I'm sure someone could remind them of how lucky they were to not still be sitting out the war in a prison cell. Could even have gone further and had Allers, Wong and Al-Jilani all be on the ship, serving as a mini press corps that Shepard could interact with and occasionally field questions from. Or have the conceit be that the reporters aren't always on the ship, but occasionally are out in the field reporting from the front lines? Maybe even have one of them die during one of these assignments, leaving the others shaken? I dunno, they could have done way more with this premise, than "chat with Allers a couple times to bang her". I had no preconceptions of the character having never heard of Jessica Chabot before I encountered Allers in Mass Effect 3. I thought her delivery was OK - not Oscar good, but still OK. I didn't find Wong all that interesting either and her lines describing how the various backgrounds of Shepard would be just oh so perfect to help her find information on Fist seemed clunky and disingenuous. The VA for Al-Jilani did a better job IMO; but the cheap "punch her" gag got very old very quickly. I do agree, however, that Bioware could have done a lot more with the embedded reporter theme than they did. I doubt, however, that it would have gone over any better with the fans. They probably would have seen a deeper thrust on embedded reporting as taking away from the major theme of the game anyways. It's not like they got very deep into just reporter/soldier relations with either Wong or Al-Jilani either.
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Post by Sifr on Apr 20, 2018 22:23:46 GMT
That’s part of the problem right there. Some didn’t like Jessica period. Also that is not what Allers is there for. I don't mind Jessica Chobot, I simply don't see what function or purpose Allers had that required her presence in the game, beyond a fling that doesn't amount to anything? Shepard doesn't bother to call her at the end of the game, she's not invited to the party in Citadel... and really, if you removed Allers from the game, what exactly would be different? Even if you don't think that the decision to put an IGN host in ME3 feels like stunt-casting and/or meant to court better reviews, or that her voice-acting was merely fine (not bad, but not exactly good either), you're still left with the fact that Allers is a pointless character, who was poorly implemented, does nothing to impact the narrative and lacks any real story arc that could justify her inclusion. (Conrad freaking Verner would have made more sense to be on the Normandy than Allers... and given that Conrad was revealed to have a doctorate in xenotechnology and dark energy integration, he'd actually have been a damn sight more useful!)
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Post by sil on Apr 20, 2018 23:18:58 GMT
That’s part of the problem right there. Some didn’t like Jessica period. Also that is not what Allers is there for. I don't mind Jessica Chobot, I simply don't see what function or purpose Allers had that required her presence in the game, beyond a fling that doesn't amount to anything? Shepard doesn't bother to call her at the end of the game, she's not invited to the party in Citadel... and really, if you removed Allers from the game, what exactly would be different? Even if you don't think that the decision to put an IGN host in ME3 feels like stunt-casting and/or meant to court better reviews, or that her voice-acting was merely fine (not bad, but not exactly good either), you're still left with the fact that Allers is a pointless character, who was poorly implemented, does nothing to impact the narrative and lacks any real story arc that could justify her inclusion. (Conrad freaking Verner would have made more sense to be on the Normandy than Allers... and given that Conrad was revealed to have a doctorate in xenotechnology and dark energy integration, he'd actually have been a damn sight more useful!) She might have been better if she was like ME:A's Keri.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 0:16:08 GMT
That’s part of the problem right there. Some didn’t like Jessica period. Also that is not what Allers is there for. I don't mind Jessica Chobot, I simply don't see what function or purpose Allers had that required her presence in the game, beyond a fling that doesn't amount to anything? Shepard doesn't bother to call her at the end of the game, she's not invited to the party in Citadel... and really, if you removed Allers from the game, what exactly would be different? Even if you don't think that the decision to put an IGN host in ME3 feels like stunt-casting and/or meant to court better reviews, or that her voice-acting was merely fine (not bad, but not exactly good either), you're still left with the fact that Allers is a pointless character, who was poorly implemented, does nothing to impact the narrative and lacks any real story arc that could justify her inclusion. (Conrad freaking Verner would have made more sense to be on the Normandy than Allers... and given that Conrad was revealed to have a doctorate in xenotechnology and dark energy integration, he'd actually have been a damn sight more useful!) Nah, Conrad is just fine raising havoc on the Citadel and his degree wouldn't be any more useful on the ship.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 0:22:21 GMT
I don't mind Jessica Chobot, I simply don't see what function or purpose Allers had that required her presence in the game, beyond a fling that doesn't amount to anything? Shepard doesn't bother to call her at the end of the game, she's not invited to the party in Citadel... and really, if you removed Allers from the game, what exactly would be different? Even if you don't think that the decision to put an IGN host in ME3 feels like stunt-casting and/or meant to court better reviews, or that her voice-acting was merely fine (not bad, but not exactly good either), you're still left with the fact that Allers is a pointless character, who was poorly implemented, does nothing to impact the narrative and lacks any real story arc that could justify her inclusion. (Conrad freaking Verner would have made more sense to be on the Normandy than Allers... and given that Conrad was revealed to have a doctorate in xenotechnology and dark energy integration, he'd actually have been a damn sight more useful!) She might have been better if she was like ME:A's Keri. Keri had a slightly better story arc than Allers, but it's still wasn't a good use of a reporter. Davis should have been the person who comes to Ryder to get her out of jail (Hakim was really an unnecessary character). I also think that writing in a press junket to Aya (and perhaps even ones to interview the resiststance fighters on Voeld and scientists on Havarl) might have made them both seem more relevant to the main story.
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 23, 2018 0:48:22 GMT
The point of both Allers and Keri is to let the player RP a bit, by explaining why the PC took action X or Y. Allers actually does a bit more than Keri, evcause she also delivers some background information on the state of the galaxy.
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Post by sageoflife on Apr 25, 2018 22:39:04 GMT
I'd much rather they let the player choose between Emily, Khalisah, and maybe Allers like we could choose between Chakwas and Michelle, with Emily being more friendly and Khalisah being more critical, and with longer interviews.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 0:26:36 GMT
The point of both Allers and Keri is to let the player RP a bit, by explaining why the PC took action X or Y. Allers actually does a bit more than Keri, evcause she also delivers some background information on the state of the galaxy. Except that there's very little opportunity to actually explain much at all between the "punching" gags and flirts.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 26, 2018 13:55:57 GMT
The point of both Allers and Keri is to let the player RP a bit, by explaining why the PC took action X or Y. Allers actually does a bit more than Keri, evcause she also delivers some background information on the state of the galaxy. Except that there's very little opportunity to actually explain much at all between the "punching" gags and flirts. Maybe in the case of Keri, but the options I chose for Shepard did a fair amount of explaining the rationale for the decision you chose post-mission, and since this is Allers, there's no punching at all.
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Post by griffith82 on Apr 26, 2018 17:31:08 GMT
Except that there's very little opportunity to actually explain much at all between the "punching" gags and flirts. Maybe in the case of Keri, but the options I chose for Shepard did a fair amount of explaining the rationale for the decision you chose post-mission, and since this is Allers, there's no punching at all. And I have a feeling if someone else was there I would have punched her.
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Post by malgus on Jul 18, 2018 19:53:03 GMT
Except that there's very little opportunity to actually explain much at all between the "punching" gags and flirts. Maybe in the case of Keri, but the options I chose for Shepard did a fair amount of explaining the rationale for the decision you chose post-mission, and since this is Allers, there's no punching at all. Yeah the option would have been good for allers. One of the thing that bother me with allers is that if you reject her and make it clear you are uninterested in her, she acts like she was not flirty before and everything was just a misunderstanding... Sure diana ...
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