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Post by gervaise21 on Jan 13, 2018 9:20:42 GMT
So, I'd probably switch to tittus unless hero could reconsider??
This is also another aspect to my vote. Having made the challenge to Hero to lead the voting rather than passively follow someone else, I do feel I should show solidarity with his lead, particularly as it did match my own shortlist of suspicious persons. However, if it turns out that you are innocent and an important role, that would focus my suspicions back on Hero. Hero knows what it is like to be an important role and yet subject of a bandwagon that votes you off at an early stage so appealing to his sense of justice might be the way to go.
I'm trying to understand what the playful connection is between any character Tittus might be and voting for OG. He is not Blackwall, which would be a Gryphon connection. First he denies anything but a random vote and then he tries to justify it by saying there is a meaning behind his voting even if the rest of us can't see it.
If Adonniel keeps to her word after the last vote then we only have 12 hours to resolve this so if you are a genuinely important role Moonae, I suggest you opt for someone other than Space and/or persuade Hero to support you.
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Post by TheHeroOfFerelden on Jan 13, 2018 10:26:29 GMT
This is also another aspect to my vote. Having made the challenge to Hero to lead the voting rather than passively follow someone else, I do feel I should show solidarity with his lead, particularly as it did match my own shortlist of suspicious persons. However, if it turns out that you are innocent and an important role, that would focus my suspicions back on Hero. Hero knows what it is like to be an important role and yet subject of a bandwagon that votes you off at an early stage so appealing to his sense of justice might be the way to go. Boy,i do! I wouldn't be 100% sure about my sense of justice at present,since it might be a bit clouded from the previous round where i was a Grinch That being said,my vote still stands!
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Post by Space Cowboy on Jan 13, 2018 10:40:06 GMT
Looking at the numbers again I think I was right earlier when I said I had to vote for someone who already have a vote. Even if gervaise and cmoe agree to switch, space could just switch to me to make it a tie. So, I'd probably switch to tittus unless hero could reconsider?? A vote for me is terribly wasted. Nor do I wish to see another innocent voted for. I'll not tie it up if you switch from me.
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Post by Moonae on Jan 13, 2018 17:58:57 GMT
I've never been a big fan of the argument "don't vote me off or you'll regret it". I used it earlier because, well 1. it's true, and 2. I couldn't think of anything else to say. But really the entire argument is nothing but hot air. It can be used earnestly, in which case it could apply to 5 or 6 roles specifically, and all innocents in general. And anyone, innocent or spy, can and will use it to try and save themselves. It's a bullshit argument and I'd feel like a hypocrite if I relied on it myself when I would dismiss it coming from someone else. The best defense instead is to find the real spies, or at least likely suspects. Unfortunately, there aren't very many proper suspects around. My tentative suspects list at the moment is space, tittus and cmoe. I wouldn't call myself sure about either of them. Probably mostly space, both for continuing to vote for smiles (who's an easy target), and making quick seemingly random accusations without much explanations, that grew after people started suspecting space, neither of which actually match their vote on smiles. I'm not ignoring the fact that between dad, dragon & smiles anyone of them, or ALL of them, even, could be spies. But if I were to vote for one of them, the question of who would then be left up to chance. Neither one is more or less suspicious than the other two right now. And at this stage I don't want to waste my vote on randomness. I hadn't thought much of romice till now. So under the radar that I'd completely not noticed before, which could obviously be a strategy. Since "staying under the radar" is the main reason tittus is on my list, I should probably put romice on there too. With the "voting for cmoe" they'd probably be above tittus really. (Although I'm not as 100% sure of cmoe as you seem to be. If I'm wrong about cmoe, though, that definitely puts romice up there.) I could vote for romice, but then there's the more personal perspective of needing someone to get more votes than me, which leads me back to the people that already have votes. With the Sera war ending after this round we'll get to see what dad and dragon will do (which will be interesting, and hopefully lead to more solid theories). But I think we can all agree it's likely smiles is gonna stay a blank slate. Blank slates aren't very interesting to keep around, and don't add much to the conversation (either directly with words or indirectly through patterns in behaviour), which mostly just makes them a roadblock. So maybe I can justify picking him out above the other two even though they're on the same level currently. On the other hand: voting for smiles is what makes me suspicious of space, so maybe I shouldn't turn around and suggest it myself... I feel like I've gone round in a circle somehow Since I only have one vote change left, I don't want to use it until I know whether I've gotten through to at least someone. Though, to be honest, this whole post seems like a mess, so I'm not sure which part could get through. I'm pretty sure I contradicted myself more than once... Anyway, right now I'm between space and tittus (and possibly romice and maybe smiles).
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Post by romice on Jan 13, 2018 18:14:14 GMT
I've never been a big fan of the argument "don't vote me off or you'll regret it". I used it earlier because, well 1. it's true, and 2. I couldn't think of anything else to say. But really the entire argument is nothing but hot air. It can be used earnestly, in which case it could apply to 5 or 6 roles specifically, and all innocents in general. And anyone, innocent or spy, can and will use it to try and save themselves. It's a bullshit argument and I'd feel like a hypocrite if I relied on it myself when I would dismiss it coming from someone else. The best defense instead is to find the real spies, or at least likely suspects. Unfortunately, there aren't very many proper suspects around. My tentative suspects list at the moment is space, tittus and cmoe. I wouldn't call myself sure about either of them. Probably mostly space, both for continuing to vote for smiles (who's an easy target), and making quick seemingly random accusations without much explanations, that grew after people started suspecting space, neither of which actually match their vote on smiles. I'm not ignoring the fact that between dad, dragon & smiles anyone of them, or ALL of them, even, could be spies. But if I were to vote for one of them, the question of who would then be left up to chance. Neither one is more or less suspicious than the other two right now. And at this stage I don't want to waste my vote on randomness. I hadn't thought much of romice till now. So under the radar that I'd completely not noticed before, which could obviously be a strategy. Since "staying under the radar" is the main reason tittus is on my list, I should probably put romice on there too. With the "voting for cmoe" they'd probably be above tittus really. (Although I'm not as 100% sure of cmoe as you seem to be. If I'm wrong about cmoe, though, that definitely puts romice up there.)I could vote for romice, but then there's the more personal perspective of needing someone to get more votes than me, which leads me back to the people that already have votes. With the Sera war ending after this round we'll get to see what dad and dragon will do (which will be interesting, and hopefully lead to more solid theories). But I think we can all agree it's likely smiles is gonna stay a blank slate. Blank slates aren't very interesting to keep around, and don't add much to the conversation (either directly with words or indirectly through patterns in behaviour), which mostly just makes them a roadblock. So maybe I can justify picking him out above the other two even though they're on the same level currently. On the other hand: voting for smiles is what makes me suspicious of space, so maybe I shouldn't turn around and suggest it myself... I feel like I've gone round in a circle somehow Since I only have one vote change left, I don't want to use it until I know whether I've gotten through to at least someone. Though, to be honest, this whole post seems like a mess, so I'm not sure which part could get through. I'm pretty sure I contradicted myself more than once... Anyway, right now I'm between space and tittus ( and possibly romice and maybe smiles). Why does me voting for cmoe make me a suspect, if she is on YOUR suspect list? Maybe I should explain... I'm absolutely NOT sure about cmoe being guilty, it's just an idea and I could be wrong but I had to vote for someone and at least I had a reason to vote for cmoe. That couldn't be said for voting for anyone else. Honestly, if I could help you pull through this round, I would. You make compelling arguments and analytic posts, which is always an asset. If you're innocent, of course
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Post by Moonae on Jan 13, 2018 18:25:24 GMT
Mostly trying to bargain with gervaise, thb. :ninja:
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Post by pelassarias on Jan 13, 2018 19:09:19 GMT
Moonae, I'm not 100% sure that you're innocent, but I am a lot less suspicious of you than other players. So I'm going to go with my intuition and talk you through this in hopes that you can make it past the next round. If I'm reading the situation right, there are players that are willing to switch their votes to another player. So it doesn't matter who you are most suspicious of right now and you don't have that much room to bargain. You should switch your final vote towards the player they are willing to vote for just so you can make it past this round. I believe they have already made it known who they are willing to vote for. So if you truly are an important role to the Heroes, it's imperative that you do this before time runs out.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jan 13, 2018 19:14:49 GMT
Okay Moonae, you've convinced me. No one who puts that much effort into saving themselves deserves voting off, even if you are a spy. So I will change my vote from Moonae to Tittus.
If you also change your vote to Tittus, then even if no one else changes, that will at least be a tie between you. However, hopefully, others will follow now I have taken the plunge. If Tittus turns out to be an important role and you are a spy, then I accept full responsibility (for what its worth).
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Post by cmoe on Jan 13, 2018 19:28:52 GMT
Oi, this is tense. If Moonae is a spy, she is really good at this game as she is very convincing. I'll switch from Moonae to Tittus as well. But I still have my eye on you Space.
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Post by Moonae on Jan 13, 2018 19:35:37 GMT
I was starting to lose hope. *sigh of relief* I switch from space to tittus. And, pela, thanks. I knew that, but I wasn't entirely sure who they were willing to vote for, so I kinda aimed everywhere.
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Post by romice on Jan 13, 2018 19:50:24 GMT
So, just to cement things, I'll change my vote from cmoe to tittus
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Post by Tittus on Jan 13, 2018 19:57:32 GMT
You guys are doing a horrible mistake. Don't forget about last round when 5 heroes voted off another hero. Moonae was too eager to join Gervaise. I'm changing my vote from Fylimar to Moonae
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Post by gervaise21 on Jan 13, 2018 20:09:59 GMT
I feel the weight of responsibility on my shoulders. You know, I think it is easier when you aren't the only confirmed hero.
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Post by pelassarias on Jan 13, 2018 20:59:38 GMT
I do believe the Mabari made the right call in revealing you, Blackwall, but I definitely wouldn't want to be in your position right now. But for what it's worth, you have been bearing this responsibility really well so even and if Tittus is innocent, the rest of us Heroes are still with you even in death. (Also the spies. Just gotta figure out which one has the dagger on the your backs )
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Post by fylimar on Jan 13, 2018 20:59:53 GMT
Moonae was eager to join gervaise, because he is a confirmed hero and has no hidden motives.
Gervaise: it was me, who started the Tittus bandwagon, if he turns out to be innocent, I'm to blame too
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 21:51:18 GMT
Current Votes: dragontartare 1 vote dadithinkimgay 1 vote smilesja 1 vote Moonae 3 votes Tittus 5 votes
Still to Vote: no one
I will leave the voting open for 1 more hour.
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Post by dragontartare on Jan 14, 2018 1:07:34 GMT
With the Sera war ending after this round we'll get to see what dad and dragon will do (which will be interesting, and hopefully lead to more solid theories). I'm not sure how interesting it will really be, as I don't have any suspicions at this point. Here is what I think about everyone: 1. Obsidian Gryphon - Cassandra Ballerina OUT 2. Serza - Cullen Toy Soldier OUT3. dadithinkimgay - the meaty madman!! Who is so totally a spy! In seriousness, he said, "Whoever Leli is, please be careful," so is probably not Leliana himself. 4. Moonae - very analytical, which the spies haven't tended to do in these games until they get close to the chopping block. That said, moonae was almost on the chopping block. 5. fylimar - suggested dad might be Leliana when he voted for me, so probably not Leliana herself; also started a smilesja vote, but that's sort of tradition anyway so is not suspicious on its own. 6. pelassarias - Sera the Snowflake OUT7. romice - I got nothin. 8. TheHeroOfFerelden - decided to vote for a "newbie player" 9. Tittus - sometimes votes based on a connection between his character and the player. What potential connection is there to Obsidian Gryphon? Or Fylimar? 10. gervaise21 - is Blackwall 11. cmoe - acts like a "spy" who is faking newbie confusion according to others. Not sure I agree with this, since she was hesitant when she started RPing, too, so this fits a behavior pattern. 12. Space Cowboy - suspected that Serza was the mabari, so is not a dog himself, despite masquerading as one. Space has a history/friendship with smiles on this site from well before the game started, so I don't necessarily find it suspicious that he is voting for smiles so often. I think his explanation that he is messing with smiles is believable. Plus, he said he trusts me (implication is because of the gift I received), which makes him a stand-up guy in my book. 13. dragontartare - innocent as a newborn babe 14. smilesja - signs up for games and then doesn't really participate, so doesn't leave many clues. No idea here.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 2:05:39 GMT
All right my pretty snowflakes. Since all of you are as innocent as fluffy nugs, it's time to eliminate someone.
The lucky players is
Tittus the Prankiest Venatori Grinch! *** NIGHT TIME ***
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Post by dragontartare on Jan 14, 2018 2:13:33 GMT
Sweeeet. Time to update my info list! After I check the Citadel game, though, since I have yet to even vote there.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Jan 14, 2018 2:36:17 GMT
Oh nice! heh Good call everyone!
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Post by pelassarias on Jan 14, 2018 3:19:13 GMT
www3.pictures.zimbio.com/mp/aatN1n156SSx.gifHoly crap! Good job Beardy and Heroes!!! Cmoe, you're off my suspect list for the time being! I don't know, I just doubt a spy would put in their vote like that. If I were in your position and spy, I would have pretended to be offline.
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Post by Moonae on Jan 14, 2018 7:03:54 GMT
Yay!
I have to admit, I'm not sure I actually saw that coming
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Post by gervaise21 on Jan 14, 2018 9:15:32 GMT
Phew, that was a relief. Glad that I did make the right call on that one. Now we have a bit more information to go on. Night time should reveal a bit more. There is at least one person who is now totally in the clear in my mind and two others who seem likely innocent on the basis of the voting. That narrows the field down a bit.
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Post by fylimar on Jan 14, 2018 10:05:00 GMT
I'm glad, Tittus turned out to be guilty, since I started that bandwagon.
OK, now we have to wait and see :-)
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Post by TheHeroOfFerelden on Jan 14, 2018 10:41:14 GMT
The lucky players is
Tittus the Prankiest Venatori Grinch! How's that for a prank,Tittus?
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