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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2018 15:44:06 GMT
adonniel Interrogate? You can try, but you can't break me! O_O I believe it would be highly helpful if you were to make a list of players you consider the most and the least suspicious. Help us out here. The heroes need clues or they can't figure nug poop out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2018 15:46:55 GMT
About gervaise hint in the narrative. You will get it, if you have talked with one character in the games often enough. I guess, it's missable, if said character isn't often used or talked to in game. Who does the hint refer to? Pela's role? This still doesn't explain why romice is hinting Cass. Since you said you don't know anything about romice and said you know who dropped Cass hint, the conclusion follows romice isn't Cass.
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Post by fylimar on Feb 24, 2018 15:53:35 GMT
About gervaise hint in the narrative. You will get it, if you have talked with one character in the games often enough. I guess, it's missable, if said character isn't often used or talked to in game. Who does the hint refer to? Pela's role? This still doesn't explain why romice is hinting Cass. Since you said you don't know anything about romice and said you know who dropped Cass hint, the conclusion follows romice isn't Cass. I don't think, romice is hinting at Cass. At least, I didn't get the Cass vibes from her.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2018 16:11:15 GMT
I don't think, romice is hinting at Cass. At least, I didn't get the Cass vibes from her. Then what does this quote mean? Wouldn't this mean Cass/romice was interrogating Pela? I seems I have been misinformed. Not the first time it has happened, it seems pela has learned well from Varric
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Post by fylimar on Feb 24, 2018 16:34:29 GMT
I don't know, as I said, I catched a Cass hint much earlier and it wasn't from romice. Maybe you are not wrong with your vote for romice in that case...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2018 16:47:51 GMT
I don't know, as I said, I catched a Cass hint much earlier and it wasn't from romice. Maybe you are not wrong with your vote for romice in that case... I'm not changing my vote for as long as I am feeling that the player is being dodgy with their hints. 90% of the time when the player does this means they're evil. How did you interpret Gerva's narrative? What are you assumptions about Pela's role and the course of the events according to Gerva's night story? I'm not seeing people offering their versions about what happened just telling me I'm wrong. If I'm wrong then tell me what you think is right.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2018 16:51:50 GMT
Catilina Right now you are my #2 suspect after romice. If I am correct about the role you are hinting than the heroes would need/appreciate your insight about who you believe to be the most and the least suspicious. Otherwise, I'll be inclined to think you're bluffing and changing my vote from romice to you.
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Post by Catilina on Feb 24, 2018 17:09:57 GMT
Catilina Right now you are my #2 suspect after romice. If I am correct about the role you are hinting than the heroes would need/appreciate your insight about who you believe to be the most and the least suspicious. Otherwise, I'll be inclined to think you're bluffing and changing my vote from romice to you. Huh, you scared me. Really. How did I get your honourable attention?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2018 17:15:20 GMT
Huh, you scared me. Really. We are trying to figure things out and the way you do it is having different players state their top most and top least suspects and then comparing notes - ESPECIALLY if they have a claim to investigative type of role. If the player who has Leli role dies, people always go back and read over their every post because that person will be hinting about which player they have investigated. This means you can scratch those names off your suspect list and narrow down to who HB is. When it comes to you, you've been quiet and because of it we don't have information about you, which gradually leads to suspicion as players accumulate information about what roles other players claim. Since I've been revealed as a hero during this night by cole turning mabari, I don't see why people still need to suspect me and refuse cooperation at least until n6. So your defensive reaction to me trying to get information from you is extremely suspicious. I change my vote from romice to Catilina
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Post by Catilina on Feb 24, 2018 17:21:44 GMT
Huh, you scared me. Really. We are trying to figure things out and the way you do it is having different players state their top most and top least suspects and then comparing notes - ESPECIALLY if they have a claim to investigative type of role. If the player who has Leli role dies, people always go back and read over their every post because that person will be hinting about which player they have investigated. This means you can scratch those names off your suspect list and narrow down to who HB is. When it comes to you, you've been quiet and because of it we don't have information about you, which gradually leads to suspicion as players accumulate information about what roles other players claim. Since I've been revealed as a hero during this night by cole turning mabari, I don't see why people still need to suspect me and refuse cooperation at least until n6. So your defensive reaction to me trying to get information from you is extremely suspicious. I change my vote from romice to CatilinaYou will regret. I just say.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2018 18:49:00 GMT
You will regret. I just say. Instead of threatening me, if you really are a hero, why not cooperate and explain what you think of the players remaining in the game. All I did was ask you for your opinion on who you find suspicious and who is lower on your suspect list. There was no need to react the way you did unless you've got something to hide.
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Post by Catilina on Feb 24, 2018 18:55:30 GMT
You will regret. I just say. Instead of threatening me, if you really are a hero, why not cooperate and explain what you think of the players remaining in the game. All I did was ask you for your opinion on who you find suspicious and who is lower on your suspect list. There was no need to react the way you did unless you've got something to hide. I mean you'll regret because I'm innocent. My vote is Romice.
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 24, 2018 19:11:18 GMT
Voting update:
Catilina 1 Romice 1
Still to vote: Fylimar Hero of Ferelden Obsidian Gryphon Romice Serza
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Post by Space Cowboy on Feb 24, 2018 19:45:36 GMT
How did you interpret Gerva's narrative? What are you assumptions about Pela's role and the course of the events according to Gerva's night story? I'm not seeing people offering their versions about what happened just telling me I'm wrong. If I'm wrong then tell me what you think is right. I'm just poor elf sitting in the loo, but it seems to be I recall Leli having a love for shoes. I suspect she would love that chocolate one, no? as for what happened, I read back on the narratives, and I took it to mean as follows: Varric was given chocolates by a Friendly Face. The Friendly Face mentioned Cass, so Friendly Face is not Cass Varric shot Friendly Face as they fled, who was revealed as Pela. Therefore Pela is not Cass. Probably not HB either due to the 'friendly face' nickname Gervaise used. Romice comments Pela will be taken care of over night. At the time I took this to mean possibly Cass investigated Pela. I should leave it to Romice to clarify what she meant. When Pela was voted off, her chocolate was a shoe. See the first line. But I'm just a poor elf sitting in the loo.
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Post by romice on Feb 24, 2018 19:53:14 GMT
adonniel and fylimar, my first clue is almost at the top of page 132. I thought I was being so obvious, I actually wrote to gerva to ask if that clue wasn't too much. Apparently it wasn't I'll vote Serza for now, although I feel he's always acting suspiciously, so I'll probably end up changing the vote, should a better spy candidate come up.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2018 21:12:14 GMT
I'm just poor elf sitting in the loo, but it seems to be I recall Leli having a love for shoes. I suspect she would love that chocolate one, no? Ohh toilet paper. You mean we've been left WITHOUT Leliana. my first clue is almost at the top of page 132. I thought I was being so obvious, I actually wrote to gerva to ask if that clue wasn't too much. Apparently it wasn't Nah I just never catch these clues no matter how much a try. Heroes, I suggest that you focus on finding out who the other Venatori is. I have a strong feeling pela's problem will fix itself during the night Now this sounds believable... It IS a threat to execute Pela.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2018 21:20:06 GMT
Remaining suspects
2. Fylimar - role claim (sounds more or less believable) 3. Serza 4. Obsidian Gryphon - role claim (can be asked to prove it) 5. Romice - role claim - confirmed to exist by GM 7. Hero of Ferelden 11. Catilina
There aren't that many suspects left really.
I suspect Hero the least in this bunch. He was just evil 25 times in a row in the previous games. Seems a bummer to get selected for the honour again.
I'd say Cati and Serza are the top two.
Edit: We also have guaranteed Cole present who borrowed Mabari ability. This implies Serz, Hero or Cati = Cole.
If any of these 3 wish to have a good alibi this turn, they may want to hint it. Not to mention this will narrow it down for hunting HB.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2018 23:50:58 GMT
Alright, I'll switch my vote from adonniel given the fact that she's hinted that she's a valuable role. She could be bluffing, but I don't really want to take that risk. Especially since we already lost Cullen. I don't know who I'll switch from right now, but I'll sleep on it. Honestly I'm a bit tempted to throw a dice on this one since the voting pattern for everyone isn't a lot to go on so far. But I'll think some more by tomorrow. Hopefully my tally doesn't grow by the time I come back... Do not let yourself be influenced! It's dangerous. Catilina, what did you mean by this statement during the day 2 voting? What shouldn't she be 'influenced by?' That's the conversation when Pela was already turned and she was actively trying to frame me.
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Post by Catilina on Feb 24, 2018 23:52:42 GMT
Do not let yourself be influenced! It's dangerous. Catilina , what did you mean by this statement during the day 2 voting? What shouldn't she be 'influenced by?' That's the conversation when Pela was already turned and she was actively trying to frame me. It's just a useful advice.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 0:02:55 GMT
I've examined Pela's posts during day 2 voting after she was recruited by HB and before we caught her.
These are at things I've discovered about her.
+ Most likely OG isn't guilty because Pela was trying to frame her.
+ Pela was trying to cast suspicion in general on a bandwagon which supposedly voted Tittus off (naming fyli, Serza and OG in it with OG as the primary suspect)
+ Pela backpedaled on this theory after Dragon began scrutinizing it/disapproving. Then Dragon was attacked.
+ However, there was an odd moment when Moon said maybe fyli was recruited and should be suspected precisely because we'd think it's too easy, so we wouldn't vote her and then Pela reacted by throwing a counter theory that maybe it was the opposite and they'd hope we'd vote her.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 0:03:12 GMT
Catilina , what did you mean by this statement during the day 2 voting? What shouldn't she be 'influenced by?' That's the conversation when Pela was already turned and she was actively trying to frame me. It's just a useful advice. What did you mean by it?
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Post by Catilina on Feb 25, 2018 0:09:13 GMT
It's just a useful advice. What did you mean by it? I just wanted to help.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 0:35:24 GMT
Help HOW? Why? Does it have to do with your role? Plainly put: IF you are Cole than hint at it already. Because being Cole removes all suspicion from you being HB.
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Post by Catilina on Feb 25, 2018 0:40:37 GMT
Help HOW? Why? Does it have to do with your role? Plainly put: IF you are Cole than hint at it already. Because being Cole removes all suspicion from you being HB. I said I'm innocent. Or a liar. Or both. I just hope I could help.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 0:50:01 GMT
said I'm innocent. Or a liar. Or both. I just hope I could help. No this doesn't help. This makes you look extremely suspicious. Given that Cullen and most likely Leli are out, there are no reasons for the players to defend their role via silence. Being dodgy with it casts suspicion on you. Between you, Serza and Hero one is Cole, which removes all suspicion from that person. This also narrows it down to two players who are possibly HB. I'm trying to determine which two players most likely guilty. I'm afraid I cannot just take your word for it that you are inno. I need some clue to make judgement if it's believable or not.
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