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Post by fylimar on Feb 25, 2018 17:41:51 GMT
I have't voted yet, because I wait for Hero to say something. At least get your facts right, to quote Sherlock Holmes Err oh right it was Cati who voted romice, you were trying to cast suspicion on her. When I asked for clarification to reconstruct events you've conveniently vamoosed as well. Not to mention,adonniel compared me to a mabari some pages ago,so 'twould be hard to let her down I strongly doubt you are Mabari again in this game. If you are disputing Cati's claim to being Cole than I find it strange you are so passive about it. Again, get your facts right. You voted for romice, I only agreed that romice looked suspicious, because I thought, OG already had claimed Cass and I missed romice claim and I already said so. You thinking, I'm vamoosing is strange, since I said as soon as I reread everything, that I missed romice claim. At least I didn't vote for her. I clearly stated, I need more time
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Post by fylimar on Feb 25, 2018 18:09:39 GMT
No,i am not. But Cole used the Mabari's power so... I think you understand where i'm getting at It would certainly fit your personality to turn into Mabari. Cati was a lot more shady in confirming my guess. I agree with that at least . It's why I wanted to hear Hero out before voting. Sorry, Cati, you know, I like you, but I have to vote for Catilina
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 18:11:09 GMT
I voted for Cati. Cati voted romice. edit: I mean I voted romice prior to Space talking to me. Then I changed to Cati. But your suspicions were on romice after I changed to Cati. That part struck me as odd to maintain romice's guilt after her Cass claim. I was stating suspicions about romice, but didn't vote and you were agreeing with those suspicions. That was until Space explained to me the whole Leliana situation. Then I've realized that romice is Cassandra and removed her from my suspect list.
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Post by fylimar on Feb 25, 2018 18:23:51 GMT
I voted for Cati. Cati voted romice. edit: I mean I voted romice prior to Space talking to me. Then I changed to Cati. But your suspicions were on romice after I changed to Cati. That part struck me as odd to maintain romice's guilt after her Cass claim. I was stating suspicions about romice, but didn't vote and you were agreeing with those suspicions. That was until Space explained to me the whole Leliana situation. Then I've realized that romice is Cassandra and removed her from my suspect list. Nope, I didn't cast any suspicions apart from that one post, right after you just voted for romice. After romice and Space both explained her post, I wrote this (I think, you will find it on page 136? the same page, where romice and space did their explaining): I highlighted the sentence , where you can see, that I agreed, that romice isn't a suspect for me at the moment. She still could be turned, as could you or anyone else here, but I agreed, that her Cass claim seems legit. So should I quote Sherlock Holmes again or did we have it sorted out now? Edit: my comment is on page 137, romice and space on 136 ff
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 18:37:34 GMT
So should I quote Sherlock Holmes again or did we have it sorted out now? Clearly. There is no need to refer to me in an ironical manner. Know what... figure things out yourself since my style isn't suitable.
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Post by fylimar on Feb 25, 2018 18:46:37 GMT
So should I quote Sherlock Holmes again or did we have it sorted out now? Clearly. There is no need to refer to me in an ironical manner. Know what... figure things out yourself since my style isn't suitable. Yeah ...right. I expected nothing else. Well then, back to game
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 25, 2018 18:47:51 GMT
Voting Update:
Romice 1 Catilina 2 Serza 1 Hero 1
Still to vote:
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 18:48:54 GMT
Yeah ...right. I expected nothing else. There was no need to insult me by calling me names.
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Post by fylimar on Feb 25, 2018 18:56:18 GMT
Yeah ...right. I expected nothing else. There was no need to insult me by calling me names. I'm a bit confused now? What did I call you?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 19:18:37 GMT
There was no need to insult me by calling me names. I'm a bit confused now? What did I call you? You got your facts wrong, Sherlock. Obviously, that was meant as a compliment.
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Post by fylimar on Feb 25, 2018 19:23:49 GMT
I'm a bit confused now? What did I call you? You got your facts wrong, Sherlock. Obviously, that was meant as a compliment. I'm sorry, if that did upset you, I meant it to lighten the mood, since you too are a Sherlock Holmes fan. I was basically just trying to defend myself, not to start yet another fight.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 19:45:15 GMT
I'm sorry, if that did upset you, I meant it to lighten the mood, since you too are a Sherlock Holmes fan. I was basically just trying to defend myself, not to start yet another fight. Sorry fyli. I've probably misinterpreted again. In my part of the world if you scrue up and someone tells you 'way to go Sherlock' they're calling you dumb. Sadly, this game lately is more stress than fun. I'm afraid I'm being over sensitive and seeing wrong when there isn't. I'm sorry everyone.
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Post by fylimar on Feb 25, 2018 19:47:41 GMT
I'm sorry, if that did upset you, I meant it to lighten the mood, since you too are a Sherlock Holmes fan. I was basically just trying to defend myself, not to start yet another fight. Sorry fyli. I've probably misinterpreted again. In my part of the world if you scrue up and someone tells you 'way to go Sherlock' they're calling you dumb. Sadly, this game lately is more stress than fun. I'm afraid I'm being over sensitive and seeing wrong when there isn't. I'm sorry everyone. It's alright, someone explained the fauxpas, I made, to me. I didn't know, that Sherlock could mean something bad. I'm not a native speaker, so sometimes, I don't get this kind of things. I love Sherlock Holmes and I know that you and others here do too, so I thought, it would be a good thing to bring that quote
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Post by Serza on Feb 25, 2018 19:51:06 GMT
*follows Gryphon's example and looks for the nearest fireplace*
I'm willing to change that vote. I found out I have no clue.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 20:00:23 GMT
I'm not a native speaker, so sometimes, I don't get this kind of things. Actually, your English is very high level. That's why the thought of a language barrier had slipped my mind.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Feb 25, 2018 20:03:23 GMT
I'm not a native speaker, so sometimes, I don't get this kind of things. Actually, your English is very high level. That's why the thought of a language barrier had slipped my mind. Yah tha'ts easy to forget because everyone rites gud.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 20:13:32 GMT
Actually, your English is very high level. That's why the thought of a language barrier had slipped my mind. Yah tha'ts easy to forget because everyone rites gud. High level non-native speakers write far more legibly than the native speakers. Those who don't have English as the 1st language need to put thought and care into their writing, while natives get lazy and don't feel pressured to make their writing/typing clean when they're just chilling on forums. zis y me tinks fyli as nativ ________ I also would like to use this moment to make excuses for me missing a few letters here and there. I have a wireless keyboard and the signal doesn't always get through to the receiver. So, I end up pressing a button without the letter getting typed, then auto correct can also ninja in and correct the cut off to some silly word. Thus some iffy wording in places.
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Post by fylimar on Feb 25, 2018 20:19:47 GMT
Aww - thanks guys . I try to be as accurate as possible with my English, but some things obviously escape me. I do watch a lot of tv shows and read a lot of books in English and I normally play games in English too, because often the German translation isn't nearly as spot on as the English dialogues, especially when it has to do with humor. Watching Doctor Who in German is physically painful for me.
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Post by Serza on Feb 25, 2018 20:27:43 GMT
It's not a language barrier as much as meaning barrier.
You may not encounter English enough to know Sherlock is often used in demeaning fashion. This isn't caused by the language as much as the culture.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Feb 25, 2018 20:27:43 GMT
Yah tha'ts easy to forget because everyone rites gud. High level non-native speakers write far more legibly than the native speakers. Those who don't have English as the 1st language need to put thought and care into their writing, while natives get lazy and don't feel pressured to make their writing/typing clean when they're just chilling on forums. zis y me tinks fyli as nativ ________ I also would like to use this moment to make excuses for me missing a few letters here and there. I have a wireless keyboard and the signal doesn't always get through to the receiver. So, I end up pressing a button without the letter getting typed, then auto correct can also ninja in and correct the cut off to some silly word. Thus some iffy wording in places. That's very true.. I cringe a bit at supposedly native speakers who don't know the difference between there and their I have so many typos. It's from two sources. One is I type faster on my keyboard than my typing skills allow, then don't check for flubs. The second is my phone auto corrects, often to embarrassing results, and I don't always catch it. One example that I caught, luckily was I was typing the name of one of a woman's characters in RP. "Imhar". My phone almost corrected it to "i'm hard". I'm glad I caught it
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Post by Space Cowboy on Feb 25, 2018 20:28:26 GMT
It's not a language barrier as much as meaning barrier. You may not encounter English enough to know Sherlock is often used in demeaning fashion. This isn't caused by the language as much as the culture. Good point.
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Post by romice on Feb 25, 2018 20:28:48 GMT
often the German translation isn't nearly as spot on as the English dialogues I know what you mean. The Polish translation (usually subtitles only, thank Andraste, since they are sometimes unchangeable to English) can be abysmal, even changing meaning of things or whole character personalities. For example Justice's name wasn't translated into a word that means 'Justice' but into a Polish name that just sounds similar to the original, completely missing the point of him being a spirit and not having a name. Just painful
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Post by Serza on Feb 25, 2018 20:37:28 GMT
It's not a language barrier as much as meaning barrier. You may not encounter English enough to know Sherlock is often used in demeaning fashion. This isn't caused by the language as much as the culture. Good point. Ironically, this is one of the things they tried to explain to us in Lexicology. Only after I failed do I realize what the Professor meant.
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Post by fylimar on Feb 25, 2018 20:38:09 GMT
High level non-native speakers write far more legibly than the native speakers. Those who don't have English as the 1st language need to put thought and care into their writing, while natives get lazy and don't feel pressured to make their writing/typing clean when they're just chilling on forums. zis y me tinks fyli as nativ ________ I also would like to use this moment to make excuses for me missing a few letters here and there. I have a wireless keyboard and the signal doesn't always get through to the receiver. So, I end up pressing a button without the letter getting typed, then auto correct can also ninja in and correct the cut off to some silly word. Thus some iffy wording in places. That's very true.. I cringe a bit at supposedly native speakers who don't know the difference between there and their I have so many typos. It's from two sources. One is I type faster on my keyboard than my typing skills allow, then don't check for flubs. The second is my phone auto corrects, often to embarrassing results, and I don't always catch it. One example that I caught, luckily was I was typing the name of one of a woman's characters in RP. "Imhar". My phone almost corrected it to "i'm hard". I'm glad I caught it I get hwat you mean. I often write on my phone too and the auto correct can bring strange results. romice: I know, right? They do that in German a lot too, that they translate names with a meaning into something without a meaning that sounds similar. It's annoying. Another recent example: I watched 'Re:Mind' on Netflix. It's a Japanese Mystery tv show, that is of course in Japanese and has different subtitles. I used the German subtitles first and had really trouble following the dialogue and then I switched to English and started again and suddendly it all mades sense. The German translation tried to put too much into one spoken word, basically explaining the subtext and the spoken text, which made things unnecessary complicated, while the English subtitles stayed with the direct meaning and that made things clearer imo. You get the subtext from the faces and gestures of the actors, cramping them into the subtitles is not helpful and results in you reading the subtitles all the time and missing the rest.
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Post by pelassarias on Feb 25, 2018 20:45:03 GMT
Yeah, I just want to add that I never understood why some of my fellow English speaking natives would bash the way bilinguals wrote/spoke in English. 1.) English is a pretty hard language. One of the only beneficial things we have is that we don't gender our articles or make them plural. (for example, La/Le/Les versus The). But there are several "exceptions" to certain rules that you have to remember, that even I forget from time to time. 2.) Most native English speaking folks, including myself, do not speak or write in Perfect English. But when a bilingual is learning English online or IRL, then all of a sudden we're the English Police. Never really understood this. But yeah, I hate to derail, but I do concur with adonniel about Native speakers/Bilinguals. I'm the perfect example of this. You might see me forgetting complete words from time to time due to the way I think and write in English.
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