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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 17, 2018 13:35:25 GMT
It's just an example. It's more reliable than role claims. The spy hid behind Dorian the whole last game and ended up winning. No way is perfect. You could vote for the fellow spy, then switch, making it look like the other one is not a spy. You are right, but I got lucky that noone challenged my claim in any way. And in this case, I would think, that the person not claiming anything, is likely not the spy, because I would have claimed a role as a spy to stay hidden. And since Cati has claimed a role, I would think, they talked about that in the spy channel Yup very good point
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Post by sgtreed24 on Mar 17, 2018 16:42:21 GMT
Any of us could easily be choosing to hide behind an alias (space, me, pela) or choosing to lay low to avoid attention (romice, moonae) as a spy. I take it you missed the claim I made earlier then? Hmm, yeah I don't remember it. I guess I missed it. I'll go back and look. Whoops. lol
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Post by Moonae on Mar 17, 2018 17:02:18 GMT
So, I'm gonna take a big gamble here that may end up backfiring spectacularly and make me feel like an idiot, but here goes:
Over the night time I asked adonniel and she confirmed that at the start of the game the spies were given a list of all the roles which were floating, as usual. At first I was a bit annoyed since this put Leli and Cullen at risk. If either one of them made a claim to be a villager the spies would know it immediately since if player X claimed role Y but role Y is known to be floating then player X is obviously lying. And since the spies would know that player X is not a spy that only leaves two options.
However, the spies clearly didn't notice that I made such a false claim (yes, hi, this is were the potential backfiring comes in) because I lived through the night. And reed just admitted that he missed my claim.
Therefore I vote for reed.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Mar 17, 2018 17:20:44 GMT
After thinking on the veteran players' analysis of the situation, I thought myself convinced that Romice isn't the spy because Catilina voted for her at one point. But then I started thinking, what better way to hide as a spy than to put your vote on your teammate? Once revealed that that player was a spy, everyone would immediately give up suspicions on that player. And might well use that to keep off their suspicions for the majority of the game. While this doesn't exactly clear Romice of suspicion (because Catilina could have been using this strategy himself), to me, it makes Pela and Space a lot more suspicious. And, as I'm typing this I see that Moonae has admitted to claiming things falsely, so... that automatically makes me not trust her. lol (and runs counter to your "I never lie" claim in the Citadel ) I'm definitely changing my vote from Romice. However, I don't know to who yet. I feel the current leanings could be towards 2 innocent players. (myself, moonae) Even though the latter just voted for me!
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Post by fylimar on Mar 17, 2018 17:25:17 GMT
I can't vote, because I'm dead, I'm only allowed to draw crude pictures of Cory, but I believe Moonae. That would make her and romice the two least suspicious player for me at the moment
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 17, 2018 17:50:06 GMT
I'm inclined to trust moonae as well. Although if she could specify which hero role she's claiming that would help to solidify my trust in her. If she said Cullen and someone else is Cullen I'd think they would let us know.
In any case she didn't specify she investigated Reed but he's my only other suspect. So I vote Reed for now.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 17, 2018 18:06:12 GMT
But then I started thinking, what better way to hide as a spy than to put your vote on your teammate? Once revealed that that player was a spy, everyone would immediately give up suspicions on that player. Remember Cati was in a three way tie with Pela and I, I think. No one was suspicious of any of the three yet, since it's so early. He got caught due to random luck. So neither spy had any reason to vote for the other, and put the other in danger unnecessarily. If Pela was the spy, she could have simply put her vote on me and saved Cati, for instance.
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Post by Moonae on Mar 17, 2018 18:06:59 GMT
Well, I'm hoping someone else will protect me tonight if I'm wrong about Reed. Also, I trust pela.
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Post by pelassarias on Mar 17, 2018 18:57:50 GMT
Based on voting patterns, I'm suspicous of reed and romice since they both put Space through the tiebreaker. I'm a bit more suspicous of reed due to fact that this player has brought up the "spy could have voted for their accomplice during the first round" theory to cast suspicion on me and Space. It's a good theory, but Moonae brought up that very same theory as a spy. I don't know know, this theory just seems like the go to explanation for spies whenever the Heroes get lucky. Plus this also seems like an attempt to not have the Heroes trust one another and work together. So I'm going to follow Space and Moonae and vote for reed for now.
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Post by fylimar on Mar 17, 2018 18:58:29 GMT
Moonae: wow, in that case, you scored the best investigation role in both games? Sweet.
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Post by Moonae on Mar 17, 2018 19:06:58 GMT
I complained to the internet gods that I'd had evil/neutral roles four times in a row and they gave me compensation.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2018 19:41:10 GMT
Current Votes: romice 1 vote sgtreed24 3 votes
Still to Vote: 1. romice
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 18, 2018 0:04:08 GMT
I complained to the internet gods that I'd had evil/neutral roles four times in a row and they gave me compensation. At one point I had been a spy 4 out of 5 games I played so I know how you feel.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Mar 18, 2018 2:08:31 GMT
But then I started thinking, what better way to hide as a spy than to put your vote on your teammate? Once revealed that that player was a spy, everyone would immediately give up suspicions on that player. Remember Cati was in a three way tie with Pela and I, I think. No one was suspicious of any of the three yet, since it's so early. He got caught due to random luck. So neither spy had any reason to vote for the other, and put the other in danger unnecessarily. If Pela was the spy, she could have simply put her vote on me and saved Cati, for instance. And that's my point. She/you possibly could have not tried to save cati on purpose and therefor solidify your position for the rest of the game as that vote for the spy would exonerate you of all suspicion. EDIT: well I see it's overwhelming in favor of me, so you all can forget your anti assassin armor from my forge! And when the spy gets you guys, I'll have the last laugh! EDIT EDIT ( ): I switch my vote from Romice to Moonae (If I'm going out, may as well vote for the leader of the mob lol)
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Post by TheHeroOfFerelden on Mar 18, 2018 10:53:07 GMT
Just passing through *Hugs everyone* *Leaves*
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Post by romice on Mar 18, 2018 12:42:03 GMT
Sorry, for stalling the voting, but I see the score is clear, even without my participation.
Right now I can say that I trust moonae and myself. And since she says she trusts pela, I think she's trustworthy as well. Also, moonae will now probably be safe at night, at least for this round.
I guess I'll put the additional vote for reed. If not him, than it's Space who's the Venatori, and it'll all end in the next round, right?
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Post by fylimar on Mar 18, 2018 13:15:29 GMT
Just passing through *Hugs everyone* *Leaves* HEy *hugs back*. I hope, you are doing well
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2018 13:36:48 GMT
Current Votes: Moonae 1 vote sgtreed24 4 votes
Still to Vote: zilch
Whelp, it appears that discussion has been settled. Unless it re-initiates again in the next few hours and provides a reason for an extension, how about closing the voting within the next... mhm... 6h.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2018 19:51:31 GMT
The investigation to discover the guilty party went on rather avidly when Leliana came in looking all knowing as the proper spymaster should.
"My people have found someone who can help us," she announced, stepping out of the way to reveal a mischievous kid behind her who had a bright red ear, most likely his mother's token for the last prank.
"Can you point out which person here was asking you questions about which people have made those drawings on the poster board?" the spymaster requested.
The boy grinned widely, revealing a hole in between his teeth, and rested his finger on one person.
The eliminated player was Sgtreed24 - the Venatori Agent!
Well done civilians! You've defended Skyhold from a devious infiltration attempt in the Inquisitor's absence!
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 18, 2018 19:53:55 GMT
Ahhaha. good job everyone, including the spies. They did a good job considering it was two new(ish) players as the spies
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2018 20:03:31 GMT
They did a good job considering it was two new(ish) players as the spies I was hoping you veterans would take mercy and they'd slip under the radar, but that 3 way tie got them, and once you hook the first villain, it's a lot easier to estimate the 2nd one. Than the noob factor stopped working Game 8 Player List 1. romice - Cullen 2. gervaise24 - Elan Ve'Mal OUT 3. pelassarias - Seggrit 4. Space Cowboy - Ser Morris 5. sgtreed24 - Venatori 6. Moonae - Leliana 7. fylimar - Lysette OUT 8. Catilina - Venatori OUT + I couldn't confess during the game, but when I gave Space his role, he asked who that is. I've totally screwed up and described Threnn for him. That's why his first hints were kind of messed up. Then I went into my Skyhold game and saw it's the wrong character. I told Space the correct info a couple of days later. Whoops that. At least the job was correct initially.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 18, 2018 20:08:17 GMT
THat's ok Adonniel, I kinda figured something was up because I knew Threnn was in Haven only
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2018 20:10:46 GMT
THat's ok Adonniel, I kinda figured something was up because I knew Threnn was in Haven only You can save Threnn during the attack on Haven, but the other guy will get her job anyway. Then you can click on her and talk at the courtyard, but she doesn't specify what exactly she's doing only that she found other things to do at Skyhold.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Mar 18, 2018 20:18:23 GMT
Well, it was hard to try to defend myself after Cati got eliminated in the 3 way tie. I tried to pull a deep angle, but everything I tried had been done before! lol The veteran knowledge sank me pretty quickly. You survived, this time!
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 18, 2018 20:21:07 GMT
Well, it was hard to try to defend myself after Cati got eliminated in the 3 way tie. I tried to pull a deep angle, but everything I tried had been done before! lol The veteran knowledge sank me pretty quickly. You survived, this time! Yeah that was unfortunate Nice try though!
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