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Post by phoray on Nov 11, 2017 14:38:28 GMT
To be honest Luke you may as well trust Serza because if they are going to do something stupid there is nothing whatsoever we can do about it. For example, if all the last 3 vote for Nvanfleet, Serza could turn around and direct all the votes to me. Why would they do that? I don't know. They have been messing around all game, confusing instead of helping their allies and forcing other people to reveal themselves in the process and put themselves at risk. If I end up getting sent to jail and more people die, well you can't say I didn't call it. Oh. Cu I thought serza is Jose, so they say they vote Hanako maintaining a layer of safety.... but secretly change their votes and everyone else's to nvanfleet Unless I don't understand that ability
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Post by Serza on Nov 11, 2017 14:45:45 GMT
I have no idea what you're talking about...
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 11, 2017 15:14:27 GMT
No, you have understood the ability perfectly, except what degree of safety does Serza need to maintain? Just vote for Nvanfleet. Hanako knows they aren't the spy, so they are not going to support Nvanfleet. LukeT has already said they trust me so they will vote for Nvanfleet. Dragontartare seemed to approve of my post, so I assume they will be voting for Nvanfleet. So why does Serza need to hang fire?
Please note that Serza voted for Hanako after I made my post about Nvanfleet, only using information that was available to all. I made it clear I knew who everyone was. I bet you anything you like I have called their identities correctly, unlike Serza who has wrongly identified everyone without giving good reasons for it. If people want me to I can give the identities and the proofs from what was contained within the open posts.
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Post by phoray on Nov 11, 2017 15:18:17 GMT
No, you have understood the ability perfectly, except what degree of safety does Serza need to maintain? Just vote for Nvanfleet. Hanako knows they aren't the spy, so they are not going to support Nvanfleet. LukeT has already said they trust me so they will vote for Nvanfleet. Dragontartare seemed to approve of my post, so I assume they will be voting for Nvanfleet. So why does Serza need to hang fire? Maybe degrees of safety make the game more fun for Serza.
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Post by fylimar on Nov 11, 2017 15:46:13 GMT
Ok, if your voting is based on your identities to guess peoples abilities, please do stop voting . I really wish, I was Varric, because of course he is the coolest character in DA, but sadly I'm not. And what reason would I have to injure phoray? She threatened two people yesterday, Hanako and dragontartare, I'm pretty sure, dragon is not Varric, so I guess, it is Hanako. You really did miss the hints about who I am?
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 11, 2017 15:57:18 GMT
I've got to hand it to you phoray to be so cool and understanding about someone who has voted in support of the person who killed you rather than with the person who identified the killer.
I must admit that considering what a big Cullen fan you are, it must have made your day when you were given his character, although somewhat sad that he died. However, you have to admit that there are really only two characters that the assassins have to identify and take out because they have repeatable rather than once only abilities and Cullen had to be killed or voted off (hence trying to throw suspicion on you by attacking Dragontartare) in order to remove his ability to protect the other.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Nov 11, 2017 16:14:53 GMT
Right, but if I had been a spy I would've just gone for Cullen the 2nd night once that ability had been strongly hinted at (the alliance at start of day 1). No one can protect Cullen so it would've been a guaranteed kill plus we would've lost the ability to protect going forward. So I imagine the spies hadn't figured out Cullen's identity yet (fortunately).
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Post by nvanfleet on Nov 11, 2017 16:25:05 GMT
Quiet fistbump of solidarity to Serza; the pile of suspicion is pretty ominious so hooray for *someone* following my own logic here. I've given my reasons for voting as I have, but the morning mob can be an ugly thing. 😄 I still think Hanako is the spy.
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Post by Serza on Nov 11, 2017 16:48:21 GMT
Hey, no need to thank me.
I'm doing the right thing here.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 11, 2017 16:54:29 GMT
I assume that Hanako and Dragon are working so we will have to wait until they come off shift to end the suspense. I may as well make my dinner while we wait. Have fun while I'm gone!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 17:30:46 GMT
"We've been lucky so far. But no more."
The statement rang ominous across the Great Hall as the heroes gathered to investigate the tragic demise of the Inquisition Commander. The discussion grew heated until a small commotion by the door reached Josephine and she rose with words, "I would like your attention please," which brought the gathering to silence.
"I have recruited Harding to question a number of people and it appears she found someone," the ambassador continued, gesturing for two people to approach.
One of them was a soldier bearing marks of a recent battle, his head heavily bandaged.
"I hear Commander was poisoned and I reckon I know a thing. I was recovering in the healer quarters when I saw an apprentice who wasn't around when my wounds were dressed." His hand rose and an accusing finger pointed towards one of those present.
"This is the person who brought a potion to Commander."
"This is ridiculous! This man suffered concussion! His testimony cannot be trusted!" shouted the accused, but none listened to his arguments.
He was brought forth and Leliana spoke.
"You stand accused of murder. You stand accused of treason. Found guilty on this account."
"Maker have Mercy on your soul," added Josephine. Her dagger flashed extinguishing the light in the accused eyes.
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nvanfleet the last Venatori Agent
With the villains caught, the loud wailing from the jail cells quickly set heroes to free Dorian. Later on, the Honourable Ghost of Ser Phoray appeared to tell us about the Commander.
Skyhold is Safe once more.
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Post by nvanfleet on Nov 11, 2017 17:32:13 GMT
Raspberries. XD
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 11, 2017 17:34:31 GMT
Dinner on and cooking so I'm back. Not going to let you get away with this statement Nvanfleet. What logic is Serza following, Hmm? You have never stated YOUR logic, just claiming to have the same logic as Serza. Back when you cast your vote for Hanako, you claimed to still have suspicions about Serza. (Hold on a mo while I get the quote).
Never mind.
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Post by Serza on Nov 11, 2017 17:36:36 GMT
Yeah, I think I might explain my stoopid choice the last page or two. I knew nvanfleet was the Venatori. According to my notes, Hanako is Varric, Luke is Bull, Dragon is Blackwall, Gervaise is Leliana, Smiles is Dorian, Fylimar is Solas, Phoray is (was) Cullen and I'm... Josie. Meaning that as I stood behind nvanfleet, 'twas with a dagger in my hand and a smile on my lips. He might have thought he played me on the last page. In fact, I played him. Link to my notes in the spoiler.
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Post by nvanfleet on Nov 11, 2017 17:36:54 GMT
I felt the net closing, if I had just identified Phoray sooner I might have squeezed another day or two out. But she seemed to think I was Varric so it was a helpful shield for a bit. XD
What a great game!
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Post by nvanfleet on Nov 11, 2017 17:43:50 GMT
Yeah, I think I might explain my stoopid choice the last page or two. I knew nvanfleet was the Venatori. According to my notes, Hanako is Varric, Luke is Bull, Dragon is Blackwall, Gervaise is Leliana, Smiles is Dorian, Fylimar is Solas, Phoray is (was) Cullen and I'm... Josie. Meaning that as I stood behind nvanfleet, 'twas with a dagger in my hand and a smile on my lips. He might have thought he played me on the last page. In fact, I played him. Link to my notes in the spoiler. Damn, you totally had me fooled that you were Bull, too, or I'd have stayed in Phoray's dogpile to vote you off. XD
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Post by TheHeroOfFerelden on Nov 11, 2017 17:46:29 GMT
Yeah, I think I might explain my stoopid choice the last page or two. I knew nvanfleet was the Venatori. According to my notes, Hanako is Varric, Luke is Bull, Dragon is Blackwall, Gervaise is Leliana, Smiles is Dorian, Fylimar is Solas, Phoray is (was) Cullen and I'm... Josie. Meaning that as I stood behind nvanfleet, 'twas with a dagger in my hand and a smile on my lips. He might have thought he played me on the last page. In fact, I played him. Link to my notes in the spoiler. That's what you call a strategic mind
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Post by fylimar on Nov 11, 2017 17:47:27 GMT
Wow, we did it . Serza. Well played. It made sense, that you wouldn't let anyone know you're Josie, she has a lot of power in teh votes and you would probably have been killed off. That was a fun game. If there is another round, I have to leave the next round out, because of said fair, but in round 3, I would love to be on board again, adonniel. And thank you for organising it.
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Post by Serza on Nov 11, 2017 17:48:04 GMT
Truly the uncertainty served me well.
It was important I pose as Bull and Solas for a time, because their abilities were no threat to the spies. However, Josie, to whom I also alluded, was very dangerous to them.
I was hoping that I would pose as a hero, but keep it uncertain to avoid getting whacked.
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Post by fylimar on Nov 11, 2017 17:51:12 GMT
Truly the uncertainty served me well. It was important I pose as Bull and Solas for a time, because their abilities were no threat to the spies. However, Josie, to whom I also alluded, was very dangerous to them. I was hoping that I would pose as a hero, but keep it uncertain to avoid getting whacked. I really have to apologise for voting against you. Since I was Solas all the fade and spirit talk did put me off for a while.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 11, 2017 17:52:20 GMT
Now Sister Nightingale can finally reveal herself, thought you might like to know my investigations were as follows:
1st Night - Dragontartare - just a random selection really but useful to know. Confirmed by Dragon on page 11 "Tell me about it. The wind keeps bringing the smell all the way to the barn". Little hint on their part since that is where Blackwall hangs out.
2nd Night - Serza - I was going to investigate Nvanfleet originally because he seemed to be hinting at being Cullen and I thought that was Phoray. Not just the War Room quote but when I made my initial vote for him, he responded against me and I said it didn't surprise me, he came back with the following quip: Cheeky comment: See that in your crystal ball, did you? (page 7), then changed his vote to Smiles and said "But I'm watching you, Gervaise!" (page 7). Now if he had been Cullen he might have been a bit pissed with me for voting for him after he saved my life so those could have been subtle hints not to do it again because he was Cullen. (Of course the spy would want me to back off as well). Phoray may have allied with me but that could have been a clever ploy so I needed to clarify who was Cullen. However, Serza throwing out all these weird contradictory hints made me feel I ought to check them too, although I thought probably Josephine - confirmed by investigation.
3rd Night - Nvanfleet - saw Cullen was dead so it came as no surprise when I checked my spy's report and it flagged up Nvanfleet as the Venatori. This simultaneously confirmed in my mind that all the other identities I had established for people were correct.
Hanako - Varric Fylimar - Solas Dragontartare - Blackwall Luke Trevelyan - Iron Bull Serza - Josephine
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Post by Serza on Nov 11, 2017 17:52:40 GMT
That was utter garbage thrown in as chaff.
Though Josie did seem to be on fairly good terms with Solas, so speaking of him so closely perhaps wasn't out of character, and at times it truly suggested that I'm in fact Solas.
But as long as I could've been either Josie or Bull at the same time, I think I was largely safe.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 17:53:31 GMT
Game 1 Player List 1. Hanako Ikezawa - Varric 2. luketrevelyan - Iron Bull 3. dragontartare - Blackwall 4. Serza - Josephine 5. gervaise21 - Leliana 6. nvanfleet - Venatori Agent 7. smilesja - Dorian OUT 8. fylimar - Solas 9. Obsidian Gryphon - Venatori Agent OUT 10. phoray - Cullen - OUT This was very fun to host. Thank you a thoroughly enjoyable game! Shall we start recruitment for Game 2? Yes we shall. fylimar I'm so glad you found the time to join the game even with a tricky schedule. I will gladly add you to game 3 waiting list.
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Post by fylimar on Nov 11, 2017 17:57:11 GMT
adonniel if game 2 starts after next week, I will gladly join game 2 too, but I think, most people here are eager to keep going, so I would say that I'm available after next Thursday (that's how long the fair goes)
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Post by Serza on Nov 11, 2017 17:59:50 GMT
I had severe suspicion about you and Phoray being the spies, actually. Only a lot later did it click in that one of you was Leliana and the other Cullen. In fact, I intended to Josie YOU out on Day 2, just to confirm whether or not Phoray is telling the truth. My suspicion was truly massive at that point, but I stayed away and something was off about Gryphon. So I followed the crowd since I thought up nearly until her elimination that Phoray is Leliana. When it clicked, I knew to trust her from there on out, and you with her. I was so eager to tell Luke and you to STOP MAKING SENSE to feed my need for dramatic endings 'Tis a chief weakness of mine, I suppose.
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