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Post by Space Cowboy on Nov 21, 2017 17:01:47 GMT
I'd like to try again if there's room!
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Post by pelassarias on Nov 21, 2017 17:09:30 GMT
Good job everyone! I knew we could pull this off . If I would suggest something for future games, maybe consider assigning roles to the spies. This could make things more interesting
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Post by pelassarias on Nov 21, 2017 17:09:51 GMT
Puts on Iron Bull disguise that apparently fooled no one, although the Venatori was still puzzled that people looked at that and saw Sera.Gerva you sly fox you! I was entirely duped after dismissing those first hunch suspicions in round one, up until dadithink challenged you to being Sera. Perhaps we should unleash the cuteness diplomacy of puppies onto Corypheus next. Maybe he'll surrender too and turn to planting daffodils at Skyhold. Hero! Love you! Best Game Master ever! NAO I GETS MY DESKIE BACK! GAME 4 SIGN UP LIST OPEN!
1. Sign me up! This was the most fun I had in a thread in awhile!!!
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Post by Space Cowboy on Nov 21, 2017 17:13:28 GMT
Good job everyone! I knew we could pull this off . If I would suggest something for future games, maybe consider assigning roles to the spies. This could make things more interesting Yeah they could kidnap 2 heroes and use blood magic to take their place.
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Post by smilesja on Nov 21, 2017 17:20:50 GMT
I want in!
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Post by Space Cowboy on Nov 21, 2017 17:21:41 GMT
That's something a spy would say.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 17:23:17 GMT
To be honest the narrative was the problem for us. By the end of night 1, as Adonniel pointed out, all the genuine roles had been mentioned in the narrative, except Sera (who was then revealed during the day because clarification was asked about who had been at war), the mabari (who being new were automatically assumed to be genuine) and Josephine. Essentially that meant that if we had stuck with our original roles of Iron Bull and Blackwall (actually Romice was told Varric wasn't in the game) then we would have been struggling to convince people we weren't spies. The only thing that really kept as going as long as we did was the fact that I was wrongly identified as impersonating Sera and Smiles' antics as Josephine. If Smiles had simply been voted off, that would have been game over for us. Adonniel would have shot Romice during the night and OG would probably have investigated me, plus phoray would likely have smothered me with dog drool so I couldn't act. So I suggest that heroes should only be mentioned in the narrative if they are attacked by the Venatori and someone successfully defends them (Cullen and Leliana on night 1 of first game) or successfully defends themselves (Blackwall on night 2). Otherwise, if Leliana is merely investigating someone, this should not be mentioned. Also whoever Sera placed at war with one another should not be mentioned either, whether the war is continuing or not. After all theoretically Sera could put the two spies at war or a spy and a hero, so that could be awkward in the narrative and by saying the war is over it confirms Sera's existence and now she is an established character that should be left in doubt. So the only heroes we should know are definitely in the game are Cullen and Leliana. Everyone else should be left vague. That will then even up the balance for the spies and give them a fighting chance. I believe the first two games were closer to this version (except for Sera part). I intend to go back to the original with leaving the hero list vague. I have also considered the possibility of removing the role claims entirely and leaving the players to defend themselves without claiming roles - not just not being allowed straight claims but making NO hints about your own role. However, allowing other players to GUESS who the other players are. So you could say, I believe xxxx might be Dorian, but you can't drop a hint that your are Dorian. - The problem with that, however, is this will block the spies from lying about being someone else.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Nov 21, 2017 17:32:39 GMT
To be honest the narrative was the problem for us. By the end of night 1, as Adonniel pointed out, all the genuine roles had been mentioned in the narrative, except Sera (who was then revealed during the day because clarification was asked about who had been at war), the mabari (who being new were automatically assumed to be genuine) and Josephine. Essentially that meant that if we had stuck with our original roles of Iron Bull and Blackwall (actually Romice was told Varric wasn't in the game) then we would have been struggling to convince people we weren't spies. The only thing that really kept as going as long as we did was the fact that I was wrongly identified as impersonating Sera and Smiles' antics as Josephine. If Smiles had simply been voted off, that would have been game over for us. Adonniel would have shot Romice during the night and OG would probably have investigated me, plus phoray would likely have smothered me with dog drool so I couldn't act. So I suggest that heroes should only be mentioned in the narrative if they are attacked by the Venatori and someone successfully defends them (Cullen and Leliana on night 1 of first game) or successfully defends themselves (Blackwall on night 2). Otherwise, if Leliana is merely investigating someone, this should not be mentioned. Also whoever Sera placed at war with one another should not be mentioned either, whether the war is continuing or not. After all theoretically Sera could put the two spies at war or a spy and a hero, so that could be awkward in the narrative and by saying the war is over it confirms Sera's existence and now she is an established character that should be left in doubt. So the only heroes we should know are definitely in the game are Cullen and Leliana. Everyone else should be left vague. That will then even up the balance for the spies and give them a fighting chance. I believe the first two games were closer to this version (except for Sera part). I intend to go back to the original with leaving the hero list vague. I have also considered the possibility of removing the role claims entirely and leaving the players to defend themselves without claiming roles - not just not being allowed straight claims but making NO hints about your own role. However, allowing other players to GUESS who the other players are. So you could say, I believe xxxx might be Dorian, but you can't drop a hint that your are Dorian. - The problem with that, however, is this will block the spies from lying about being someone else. Yeah, I think reducing the role hints in some way would help a lot. Even though no one outright states their identities, the hints have often been pretty obvious. One other way to counter that is to have generic villagers (or whatever we would call them in this setting), but I think everyone is enjoying having a specific role and ability. However, the nice thing about villagers is the villains can easily claim to be one. Also it makes the special roles reluctant to give hints because they'll be targeted at night and are more valuable than a regular villager. Right now only really Leliana and Cullen avoid giving hints and no one else feels particularly vulnerable.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 17:33:22 GMT
gervaise21 I have misplaced this certain small object. You wouldn't happen to know in which room its usually found when it's not lost? If you're looking for a banana, I think you'll find one in the kitchen. Okay, Adonniel, I have to ask, what was the question all about? It really had me foxed because I thought you were addressing it to Iron Bull, hence the banana response and yes that was sexual innuendo; I was meant to be Iron Bull after all! Still I am curious to know what the correct answer was. When I named my top four suspects, unlike others you were extremely vague about your role. However, a person refusing to claim a role does not equate evil. It could mean this person is hiding an important role like Cullen and Lieliana. I considered you might be Leli, but I did not want to sell Leli out to spies head on. The night narrative said that Leli investigated Varric. So, I asked you - it seems too subtly - if you could tell me anything about me (small object meant his quill). But, you said you don't know a damn thing. This made me think you aren't Leli and I voted against you. I did not test you on Cullen because due to Luke's death I entertained the possibility of a new player being Cullen - I suspected either romice or pela as Cullen. When as an assassin you choose to attack an experienced player, be ready for the possibility that Cullen is experienced too and will defend another experienced player. Since there was no block, after game 2 where Luke pretty much nailed all spies, I guessed a strong possibility of someone new being Cullen.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 17:43:19 GMT
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Post by luketrevelyan on Nov 21, 2017 17:45:11 GMT
Okay, Adonniel, I have to ask, what was the question all about? It really had me foxed because I thought you were addressing it to Iron Bull, hence the banana response and yes that was sexual innuendo; I was meant to be Iron Bull after all! Still I am curious to know what the correct answer was. When I named my top four suspects, unlike others you were extremely vague about your role. However, a person refusing to claim a role does not equate evil. It could mean this person is hiding an important role like Cullen and Lieliana. I considered you might be Leli, but I did not want to sell Leli out to spies head on. The night narrative said that Leli investigated Varric. So, I asked you - it seems too subtly - if you could tell me anything about me (small object meant his quill). But, you said you don't know a damn thing. This made me think you aren't Leli and I voted against you. I did not test you on Cullen because due to Luke's death I entertained the possibility of a new player being Cullen - I suspected either romice or pela as Cullen. When as an assassin you choose to attack an experienced player, be ready for the possibility that Cullen is experienced too and will defend another experienced player. Since there was no block, after game 2 where Luke pretty much nailed all spies, I guessed a strong possibility of someone new being Cullen. Well I'm glad I didn't have to endure this hair for nothing! That was a tricky move with the question. I saw that but had no idea what it was supposed to mean.
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Post by TheHeroOfFerelden on Nov 21, 2017 17:50:09 GMT
Puts on Iron Bull disguise that apparently fooled no one, although the Venatori was still puzzled that people looked at that and saw Sera.Gerva you sly fox you! I was entirely duped after dismissing those first hunch suspicions in round one, up until dadithink challenged you to being Sera. Perhaps we should unleash the cuteness diplomacy of puppies onto Corypheus next. Maybe he'll surrender too and turn to planting daffodils at Skyhold. Hero! Love you! Best Game Master ever! NAO I GETS MY DESKIE BACK! GAME 4 SIGN UP LIST OPEN!
1. Hehe,i think we should remove the Mabari role...It is too Overpowered! I had to return the favour Here's you desk back,dear addoniel! 'twas sooo comfy tho... Count me in for the next game!
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Post by dragontartare on Nov 21, 2017 17:59:22 GMT
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Post by TheHeroOfFerelden on Nov 21, 2017 18:04:57 GMT
Thanks Hero for running this game! It was a lot of fun, even being out the first round. Actually that worked out ok as I just became an uncle over the weekend. Oh wait, I can finally change back my avatar! Congratz on being an uncle,Luke! Maker's blessings on on your family Congrats on being an uncle. Best thing about uncle hood is you can play with the kids and then give them back when they get cranky. Well said,Space Cowboy!It's like having a kid but without the bad stuff Buuut,raising Kieran with you was the highlight of my life honey!After meeting you of course ...Hug?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 18:11:50 GMT
May I suggest a change of setting and chars? Why does it have to be Skyhold and the heroes all the time? Why not intrigue in the court of Orleis, during the party? Bring in the duchess, the duke, the empress and briala, etc. Also sign me up if there's space. That's creative thinking. There are many variations available for DA in general, not just for Inquisition. However, this would require re-writing all the roles, and creating new characters and villains. This would mean basically opening a new game in a new setting.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 18:24:50 GMT
GAME 4 Sign-Up List 1. fylimar 2. luketrevelyan 3. Obsidian Gryphon 4. Serza 5. nvanfleet 6. romice 7. Space Cowboy 8. smilesja 9. TheHeroOfFerelden 10. dragontartare 11. pelassarias 12. EH! why not keep this open in case more want in! we have roles! MWUHAHAHA! THREE SPIES THIS ROUND! Luke grats on the new uncl-ing job!
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 21, 2017 18:28:42 GMT
I'd be happy to join but I seem to be an automatic target either to be killed (Game 1 - only saved by Phoray/Cullen) or to be suspected of being a spy. Still I suppose I'm not the only one.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Nov 21, 2017 18:34:36 GMT
I'd be happy to join but I seem to be an automatic target either to be killed (Game 1 - only saved by Phoray/Cullen) or to be suspected of being a spy. Still I suppose I'm not the only one. I say go ahead and sign up. I'm feeling similar (killed Night 1 and Night 0 of last two games), but I figure the targets will spread out as we play more.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 18:34:59 GMT
@gerva Now, now you can use Luke as a shield during the night and Smiles during the day! //brick'd GAME 4 Sign-Up List 1. fylimar 2. luketrevelyan 3. Obsidian Gryphon 4. Serza 5. nvanfleet 6. romice 7. Space Cowboy 8. smilesja 9. TheHeroOfFerelden 10. dragontartare 11. pelassarias 12. gervaise21 13. OPEN until I figure all them things out. AND!! MOAR players! Means we need MOAR heroes! We like new heroes! Welcome to Skyhold! Cole: Your insight into the minds of others allows you tap into their special abilities. Once per game, during the night, you may mirror a special ability from any hero in or out of the game.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 18:44:03 GMT
One other way to counter that is to have generic villagers (or whatever we would call them in this setting), but I think everyone is enjoying having a specific role and ability. However, the nice thing about villagers is the villains can easily claim to be one. Also it makes the special roles reluctant to give hints because they'll be targeted at night and are more valuable than a regular villager. Right now only really Leliana and Cullen avoid giving hints and no one else feels particularly vulnerable. I'm positive we can play one game (maybe game 5?) with Cullen, Leli and everyone else being Skyhold Citizens without special abilities. In general I feel that it's very important for players to have a special sense of identity and a power even a small one at their disposal, therefore, I would prefer to maintain special roles for the majority of the games (but maybe have a few with citizens here and there). Besides, how can we ban the puppies after introducing them? Everyone wants to get the puppies role.
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Post by nvanfleet on Nov 21, 2017 19:00:26 GMT
One other way to counter that is to have generic villagers (or whatever we would call them in this setting), but I think everyone is enjoying having a specific role and ability. However, the nice thing about villagers is the villains can easily claim to be one. Also it makes the special roles reluctant to give hints because they'll be targeted at night and are more valuable than a regular villager. Right now only really Leliana and Cullen avoid giving hints and no one else feels particularly vulnerable. I'm positive we can play one game (maybe game 5?) with Cullen, Leli and everyone else being Skyhold Citizens without special abilities. In general I feel that it's very important for players to have a special sense of identity and a power even a small one at their disposal, therefore, I would prefer to maintain special roles for the majority of the games (but maybe have a few with citizens here and there). Besides, how can we ban the puppies after introducing them? Everyone wants to get the puppies role. How about some of the folks rescued from Haven for non-powered roles? Threnn, Flissa, Adan, Lisette, Minaeve - they just wander around Skyhold doing nothing, might as well make targets of them? XD
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 19:02:39 GMT
GAME 4 Sign-Up List 1. fylimar 2. luketrevelyan 3. Obsidian Gryphon 4. Serza 5. nvanfleet 6. romice 7. Space Cowboy 8. smilesja 9. TheHeroOfFerelden 10. dragontartare 11. pelassarias 12. gervaise21 13. OPEN until I figure all them things out. Game 4 is about to depart from platform... um... 4! Make sure your name is on this list if you wish to participate! + Should you wish to sign-up, please state specifically that you do. Some players simply wish to discuss their previous game experience or offer suggestions for the future games. Just because you've made some post doesn't necessarily mean you want to join. So, I don't go around grabbing everyone I see posting and surprising them with being stuck on the boat. Now, which theme shall I select? We had one drama and two comedies. mhm.. OH! I know!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 19:03:42 GMT
I'm positive we can play one game (maybe game 5?) with Cullen, Leli and everyone else being Skyhold Citizens without special abilities. In general I feel that it's very important for players to have a special sense of identity and a power even a small one at their disposal, therefore, I would prefer to maintain special roles for the majority of the games (but maybe have a few with citizens here and there). Besides, how can we ban the puppies after introducing them? Everyone wants to get the puppies role. How about some of the folks rescued from Haven for non-powered roles? Threnn, Flissa, Adan, Lisette, Minaeve - they just wander around Skyhold doing nothing, might as well make targets of them? XD You mean naming the characters but not giving them any powers? Sure. Why not! The villains can get cover citizen names too.
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Post by nvanfleet on Nov 21, 2017 19:05:57 GMT
How about some of the folks rescued from Haven for non-powered roles? Threnn, Flissa, Adan, Lisette, Minaeve - they just wander around Skyhold doing nothing, might as well make targets of them? XD You mean naming the characters but not giving them any powers? Sure. Why not! The villains can get cover citizen names too. Yeah - mostly because they've got defined personalities and traits without powers, so even though you don't have an ability that can help/hinder, you've at least got something you can play hints with.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 19:10:13 GMT
Game 4 information:
There will be THREE Venatori Agents this round.
Leli and Cullen are guaranteed in play.
Game 4 ruuuleeezz modifications:
+ You may no longer defend yourself by means of claiming a role nor drop hints about being a certain role in general (since those hints were as good as claiming a role bluntly).
+ You may speculate and post lists of the supposed players/roles, aka I think xxx is Dorian, (but the named player on your list is not allowed to quote you and say, YES, you're right - for those sneaky Samaritans sneaking around the rulez).
+ Make sure you remembers not to forgets, once you be ghosties, ghosties tell no tales and therefore no sneaky attempts and sliding in who's guilty or who's innocent from the parallel world.
+ Voting is a no-no during the night. However, the Skyhold insomniacs are allowed to discuss their suspicions and nom Orlesian cakes during the quiet hours. (I will be giving the investigator information very close to dawn. They will have next to no time to provide hints about the last investigated person.)
+ Did I miss anything?
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