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Post by Sanunes on Aug 8, 2018 14:14:12 GMT
I really wish the tarot cards from the DA:I CE weren’t insanely expensive because I really love the art. Doing five simultaneous DA:I playthroughs, I love this game more than I thought I would. Same for ME:A having done seven runs in that game. I guess they grow on me and to be honest I did pre-order all of them and will do so for any future installments. I’m trying to play 3 playthroughs simultaneous and I’m already fatigued to the point of not feeling any of my characters. Then again, I pretty much did everything there is to do with my main and it wasn’t that long ago, so it’s really no surprise. To your first point I agree, if I could have bought a set directly from BioWare I would have otherwise I wasn't going to pay the cost of the entire collector's edition for them. I think that is the hazard for people like myself with open world style games, the thing for me is looking at Andromeda I did three playthroughs total since its release and I have the same amount of time in it as Mass Effect 1 with all my umpteen games because there is just so much bloat (or what I consider bloat) to the game to justify the open world.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 8, 2018 14:20:06 GMT
I've done simultaneous playthroughs before. Not hard. I've done it a number of times with ME and DA. I'm currently bouncing from DAI, DAO and DA2 and at the same time playing Skyrim.
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Post by TabithaTH on Aug 8, 2018 15:37:40 GMT
I think that is the hazard for people like myself with open world style games, the thing for me is looking at Andromeda I did three playthroughs total since its release and I have the same amount of time in it as Mass Effect 1 with all my umpteen games because there is just so much bloat (or what I consider bloat) to the game to justify the open world. Me too. For instance, I don’t feel the need to replay DA2 any time soon. I have a save at the end of Act 1 which I used as a basis for my major playthroughs. By the time I got to act 2 and 3 for the second time onward, I more or less ignored most of the side quests and went straight for the companion and main quests. I have used more than twice the amount of hours on DA:I than I have on DA2 and that’s mostly on 1 completionist PT. To me the problem is the whole Power thing. I’m not too keen on having to do the same repetitive side quests just so I can enjoy the main story and try out different choices.
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Post by natetrace on Aug 8, 2018 19:32:33 GMT
There are YouTube reviewers with their head on straight? Hah I can think of a few who are fair like blondenerd, but it's her and maybe three others.
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Post by Sylvius the Mad on Aug 8, 2018 22:54:54 GMT
DAO and DAI were both brilliant games. And I would have enjoyed MEA if not for the mandatory action combat.
As long as DA4 takes its cue more from DAI and DAO than from DA2 (which, let's remember, was received terribly), I have high hopes for it.
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Post by cloud9 on Aug 10, 2018 10:40:18 GMT
So it turns out I'm still pretty angry at Bioware after what they did to me and many others with Mass Effect Andromeda. I understand how some people felt over Mass Effect 3, it didnt bother me as much as that utter shitfest that was ME:A. £55 of my hard earned money went on that game. Thats a lot of money. I was totally on the hype train. I planned my first character I wondered what it would be like, all the new races I would meet all the places I would see.
And what did I get in return for my hard earned money.... Well any good youtube reviewer with his head on straight can tell you that. At this point its not even about wanting my money back. its about how they pushed there agenda on us once again and we stood there and took it. Why are you enabling them to do this to you? You whine and you complain yet you still buy FIFA and all the other nonsense they push out. I havent bought a single EA game for well over 3 years. If its published by EA or made by them or ANY money whatsoever goes to that company I wont buy it and do you know what happened? Nothing. Life went on as usual. The sun didnt stop shining the moon didnt fall out of the sky. Life.Went.On.
Now while I understand the argument that "its just a video game" is somewhat true, the fact that people spend 60+ dollars/pounds/whatever buying these games is also important. thats a lot of money to anyone. EA does not respect your money and Bioware does not respect you as a customer. Sure, they may nod and tell you they hear you loud and clear and then when your back is turned they stick two fingers up at you and carry on with whatever their overlord tells them to do.
So why do I feel so confident in saying this? Well lets take a look at the lead writer for MEA shall we? His name Is Chris Schlerf. Heard of him? Me neither but you can google his accomplishments if you have the time or the inclination. Suffice to say I wouldnt trust him to open a can of beans that were already open. Where did they get this guy? Why did nobody stop them and suggest they hire someone with experience? I mean if I applied for a position at Bioware having almost no experience in the video game industry, they would rightly turn me down, yet they hire a guy to write a story with almost no Sci-fi/writing experience? it doesnt make sense. He's worked on Halo Escalation.....SERIOUSLY????
Dragon age inquisition was a fucking shitshow compared to even DA2. The amount of times I struggled to hear NPC's talking because instead of a fucking cutscene they tried to pull a CDPR and failed was ridiculous. Did they bring out a patch to fix the problem? Fuck no! Why would they do that? that would require effort and work and they already had your money so fuck you! Even Wolfenstien II, as much as I hated that game, they gave you an option to boost the sound if you couldnt hear Gruff mc Gravely voice mumbling to himself.
My point is this DA4 is going to be a disaster. They wont spend the monery on writers they wont bother implimenting a good story they will talk about it for a while and then rush something out in 6 months with multiplayer tacked on. I guarantee it will happen because YOU the customer enable them to do it. EA/Bioware wont learn their lesson until someone MAKES them learn it. They wont have interesting story lines or characters. Those days are gone. Stop wasting your time with this nonsense.
You have my sympathy.
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Post by arvaarad on Aug 10, 2018 12:50:23 GMT
Common negative themes include: - High level of politics,drama and cronyism
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For some context, those kinds of complaints are extremely common in software orgs, almost to the point of cliche. Their turnover, in particular, is something I’d consider to be surprisingly low relative to the turnover I’m used to seeing in software. I love my current job (in software, but not in video games), and literally all of those negatives apply to it.
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DAO and DAI were both brilliant games.
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Post by Sanunes on Aug 11, 2018 2:45:41 GMT
Common negative themes include: - High level of politics,drama and cronyism
- Departmental silos
- Incompetent marketing department
- Too many contract employees and turnover
For some context, those kinds of complaints are extremely common in software orgs, almost to the point of cliche. Their turnover, in particular, is something I’d consider to be surprisingly low relative to the turnover I’m used to seeing in software. I love my current job (in software, but not in video games), and literally all of those negatives apply to it. I agree, I had the exact same problems at an IT company I worked at as well. It just doesn't fit the narrative the internet wants to portray. If you even bring up comparisons to other game developers and how they have done the same things or have people saying the culture is the same you get ignored unless you bash EA and BioWare. An example is two women have come forward about their time at Riot and it sounds like it pales to what happened in BioWare Montreal or another favorite of mine AskAGameDev posted through their sourced 80% of the team that finished The Witcher 2 left before The Witcher 3 was finished, but that doesn't matter in comparison to one person leaving BioWare.
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Post by colfoley on Aug 11, 2018 5:28:23 GMT
For some context, those kinds of complaints are extremely common in software orgs, almost to the point of cliche. Their turnover, in particular, is something I’d consider to be surprisingly low relative to the turnover I’m used to seeing in software. I love my current job (in software, but not in video games), and literally all of those negatives apply to it. I agree, I had the exact same problems at an IT company I worked at as well. It just doesn't fit the narrative the internet wants to portray. If you even bring up comparisons to other game developers and how they have done the same things or have people saying the culture is the same you get ignored unless you bash EA and BioWare. An example is two women have come forward about their time at Riot and it sounds like it pales to what happened in BioWare Montreal or another favorite of mine AskAGameDev posted through their sourced 80% of the team that finished The Witcher 2 left before The Witcher 3 was finished, but that doesn't matter in comparison to one person leaving BioWare. To be fair a good deal of that probably just has to do that we follow BioWare...and all online communities probably attract their trolls.
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Post by Sanunes on Aug 11, 2018 5:54:53 GMT
I agree, I had the exact same problems at an IT company I worked at as well. It just doesn't fit the narrative the internet wants to portray. If you even bring up comparisons to other game developers and how they have done the same things or have people saying the culture is the same you get ignored unless you bash EA and BioWare. An example is two women have come forward about their time at Riot and it sounds like it pales to what happened in BioWare Montreal or another favorite of mine AskAGameDev posted through their sourced 80% of the team that finished The Witcher 2 left before The Witcher 3 was finished, but that doesn't matter in comparison to one person leaving BioWare. To be fair a good deal of that probably just has to do that we follow BioWare...and all online communities probably attract their trolls. I would agree from us a players its based around the community and other communities have equal numbers of people pulling apart the new games in a series on the forums associated. I just don't see the same approach when it comes to the general content creators on the web, they seem to have a very strong following for pushing as many articles and videos to get click credit. I tried to read an article the other day about a Mass Effect retrospective and they still claim that "BioWare allowed themselves to be purchased by EA" which is false. Its things like that where people are constantly taking the attack to feed their fanbase what they want to see instead of the truth that gets to me.
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Post by arvaarad on Aug 11, 2018 14:43:33 GMT
I agree, I had the exact same problems at an IT company I worked at as well. It just doesn't fit the narrative the internet wants to portray. If you even bring up comparisons to other game developers and how they have done the same things or have people saying the culture is the same you get ignored unless you bash EA and BioWare. An example is two women have come forward about their time at Riot and it sounds like it pales to what happened in BioWare Montreal or another favorite of mine AskAGameDev posted through their sourced 80% of the team that finished The Witcher 2 left before The Witcher 3 was finished, but that doesn't matter in comparison to one person leaving BioWare. To be fair a good deal of that probably just has to do that we follow BioWare...and all online communities probably attract their trolls. I think part of it is the per-capita problem too. Rural areas are about 20% more dangerous than urban areas, but people think cities are lawless hellscapes because more incidents are reported. However, since cities have vastly more people in them, a given individual’s chance of getting killed - the per-capita rate - is actually lower. The same goes for companies. Bigger companies are generally way better workplace environments than smaller ones, but there’s also many more people in them (and buying products from them) who could potentially have a bad experience. Since people typically pay attention to the raw number of complaints rather than the percentage of people with complaints, smaller companies look better due to sheer math. In the videogame world, that means EA has to be a saint in order to be perceived as positively as a smaller company.
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Post by githcheater on Aug 11, 2018 18:38:01 GMT
To be fair a good deal of that probably just has to do that we follow BioWare...and all online communities probably attract their trolls. I think part of it is the per-capita problem too. Rural areas are about 20% more dangerous than urban areas, but people think cities are lawless hellscapes because more incidents are reported. However, since cities have vastly more people in them, a given individual’s chance of getting killed - the per-capita rate - is actually lower. The same goes for companies. Bigger companies are generally way better workplace environments than smaller ones, but there’s also many more people in them (and buying products from them) who could potentially have a bad experience. Since people typically pay attention to the raw number of complaints rather than the percentage of people with complaints, smaller companies look better due to sheer math. In the videogame world, that means EA has to be a saint in order to be perceived as positively as a smaller company. Do you have a source for either of two your two per-capita statements? I cannot comment on whether rural areas or cities are more dangerous, as I have lived my life in small towns or suburbs. Small companies being better surprised me, as my experience with large corporations was very negative, where as my experience with a small company (~ 100 employees) has been very rewarding.
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Post by Sanunes on Aug 11, 2018 20:18:44 GMT
I think part of it is the per-capita problem too. Rural areas are about 20% more dangerous than urban areas, but people think cities are lawless hellscapes because more incidents are reported. However, since cities have vastly more people in them, a given individual’s chance of getting killed - the per-capita rate - is actually lower. The same goes for companies. Bigger companies are generally way better workplace environments than smaller ones, but there’s also many more people in them (and buying products from them) who could potentially have a bad experience. Since people typically pay attention to the raw number of complaints rather than the percentage of people with complaints, smaller companies look better due to sheer math. In the videogame world, that means EA has to be a saint in order to be perceived as positively as a smaller company. Do you have a source for either of two your two per-capita statements? I cannot comment on whether rural areas or cities are more dangerous, as I have lived my life in small towns or suburbs. Small companies being better surprised me, as my experience with large corporations was very negative, where as my experience with a small company (~ 100 employees) has been very rewarding. I think its very easy to have good or bad experiences at either sized companies its just more likely to have a bad one at a major company because there are more people there. The worst for me was at a small company because my boss was the worst and I had no avenue to try and fix the problems between us because she was old friends with everyone above her rank in management. I was told by other employees "just do what we do and ignore everything she says" and other employees always gave me a place to hide out if needed to pretend I was working.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 20:28:35 GMT
I really wish the tarot cards from the DA:I CE weren’t insanely expensive because I really love the art. Same, I've cooed over them on ebay quite a few times.
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Post by duckley on Aug 12, 2018 16:45:34 GMT
Ouch! I guess the OP is not a happy Bioware/EA camper.
As for me, I have enjoyed every Bioware game that i have played. My two favs are DAO and DAI. I have played those games well over 50 times, so more than got my money's worth. Even a so-so Bioware game (DA2, MEA were kind of so so for me) is full of rich characters, humour, good story telling, acting and better than half the other games I buy (exception - Uncharted and Witcher 3, Last of Us).
The only times I have been mad at Bioware is when they shut their forum down and when they chose to put all things MEA on the shelf. But this forum has more than compensated for the original BSN closure and maybe because I was never a huge ME fan, I am over MEA.
Now Anthem is a game that I don't think i will like, so definitely won't buy that until it is out and I read more about it. Sounds like it will be a Multiplayer FPS shooter type and I don't like to play those, but I will keep an open mind.
As for DA4 - I will preorder and I have no doubt I will be playing the s*i* out of that game. Cant wait!!!!
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Post by coldsteelblue on Aug 12, 2018 17:33:53 GMT
I will be playing the s*i* out of that game.
Read that in Cassandra's voice lol
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