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Post by Space Cowboy on Dec 13, 2018 2:01:55 GMT
Are you a Christian, Phantom? But yes, there is a debate among the Christians as to wether the bible is a flat Earth book. Only know this, the main churches under the FCC can't go against the mainstream narrative in fear of losing their tax exempt. Creationism is mainstream? they are only slightly more legitimate than FE
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Post by Terminator Force on Dec 13, 2018 2:09:43 GMT
Are you a Christian, Phantom? But yes, there is a debate among the Christians as to wether the bible is a flat Earth book. Only know this, the main churches under the FCC can't go against the mainstream narrative in fear of losing their tax exempt. Creationism is mainstream? they are only slightly more legitimate than FE Think you interpreted that post wrong. Meant the mainstream as in globe Earth. Churches are actually sticking up for the globe Earth.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Dec 13, 2018 2:11:48 GMT
Did you know that the moon is never seen going in front of the sun? In fact, the moon goes missing for 3 days during a sun eclipse. There are some other anomalies too I might show later. Did you know that's complete nonsense? You ask others not to make assertions but insist on making them yourself. Prove it. Show me the science! Inverse square law of light is a law of nature, laws of nature are pretty lock and sealed. But sure, I'll prove this law to you. Go up to a light and put your palm pretty close to it, now keep looking at your palm as you back away. Inverse square law of light proven. Did this with my kitchen sink light today. It's also used to measure distance from stars. Oops. hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Astro/para.html#c2hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Astro/stdcand.html#c1hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/vision/isql.html"The fact that light from a point source obeys the inverse square law is used to advantage in measuring astronomical distances. If you have a source of known intrinsic brightness, then it can be used to measure its distance from the Earth by the "standard candle" approach." You do realize the Sun is huge right? At least according to actual science and reality, not your ignorant bronze age sheep herder theory. It's a hell of a lot brighter than your kitchen light.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Dec 13, 2018 2:14:54 GMT
Creationism is mainstream? they are only slightly more legitimate than FE Think you interpreted that post wrong. Meant the mainstream as in globe Earth. Churches are actually sticking up for the globe Earth. That particular one is also claiming the earth is 6000 year s old, and everything else Genesis claims, besides globe. Hardly mainstream there.
Do you believe the Bible supports flat earth? Why?
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Post by Terminator Force on Dec 13, 2018 2:18:24 GMT
The sadness here is the obstinacy, and the wasted dendrites. TF is a weird bird. Smart enough, maybe too clever for his own good. Also slippery as a greased eel - you will get no answers to your questions, just more questions. Sad.
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Post by Terminator Force on Dec 13, 2018 2:36:43 GMT
Did you know that the moon is never seen going in front of the sun? In fact, the moon goes missing for 3 days during a sun eclipse. There are some other anomalies too I might show later. Did you know that's complete nonsense? You ask others not to make assertions but insist on making them yourself. Prove it. Show me the science! Inverse square law of light is a law of nature, laws of nature are pretty lock and sealed. But sure, I'll prove this law to you. Go up to a light and put your palm pretty close to it, now keep looking at your palm as you back away. Inverse square law of light proven. Did this with my kitchen sink light today. It's also used to measure distance from stars. Oops. hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Astro/para.html#c2hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Astro/stdcand.html#c1hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/vision/isql.html"The fact that light from a point source obeys the inverse square law is used to advantage in measuring astronomical distances. If you have a source of known intrinsic brightness, then it can be used to measure its distance from the Earth by the "standard candle" approach." You do realize the Sun is huge right? At least according to actual science and reality, not your ignorant bronze age sheep herder theory. It's a hell of a lot brighter than your kitchen light. Look, I don't claim to know how sun eclipses work. Just know it's not what they tell us; That other strange anomaly around eclipses are those white orbs beneath the sun during an eclipse. There is no evidence to the distance or size the sun, it's based on a ton of assumptions. And don't think you understand the inverse square law. Light cannot travel that far due to the inverse square law.
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Post by Terminator Force on Dec 13, 2018 2:44:17 GMT
Think you interpreted that post wrong. Meant the mainstream as in globe Earth. Churches are actually sticking up for the globe Earth. That particular one is also claiming the earth is 6000 year s old, and everything else Genesis claims, besides globe. Hardly mainstream there.
Do you believe the Bible supports flat earth? Why?
Stuff like that is harmless to the system. You guys really want to talk about the bible. Yes, to me the bible supports a flat Earth and only a flat Earth.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Dec 13, 2018 3:46:31 GMT
There is no evidence to the distance or size the sun, it's based on a ton of assumptions. You mean like the assumptions you constantly make, and refuse to acknowledge?
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Post by Space Cowboy on Dec 13, 2018 3:48:41 GMT
You guys really want to talk about the bible. Yes, to me the bible supports a flat Earth and only a flat Earth. I agree with you, which is part of the reason why I think the book is nonsense. Religious apologists are trying to convince us otherwise, of course, because they don't like their holy book looking foolish. And you still haven't explained why this vast conspiracy is necessary.
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Post by dmc1001 on Dec 13, 2018 3:56:48 GMT
One last thing. The question of why the conspiracy would exist was neatly evaded. Answered that on page 8. Here is that post again in the spoiler; ... Answers nothing. If FE was claimed by scientists to be true, how would that affect anyone? As you say, people tend to believe what they're told. It makes little difference to the average person so there's no vested interest in lying about something like this. Hence, there's no reason for a conspiracy to exist. Besides, 2500 years is a long time to run a conspiracy.
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Post by Terminator Force on Dec 13, 2018 11:25:59 GMT
There is no evidence to the distance or size the sun, it's based on a ton of assumptions. You mean like the assumptions you constantly make, and refuse to acknowledge? And what assumptions are these that I make? Don't just say it, show me. ... You guys really want to talk about the bible. Yes, to me the bible supports a flat Earth and only a flat Earth. I agree with you, which is part of the reason why I think the book is nonsense. Religious apologists are trying to convince us otherwise, of course, because they don't like their holy book looking foolish. And you still haven't explained why this vast conspiracy is necessary. Knowledge is in the hands of the few and the rest are kept ignorant. The classic structure for manipulation and control. Seems pretty self explanatory to me. ... One last thing. The question of why the conspiracy would exist was neatly evaded. Answered that on page 8. Here is that post again in the spoiler; Answers nothing. If FE was claimed by scientists to be true, how would that affect anyone? As you say, people tend to believe what they're told. It makes little difference to the average person so there's no vested interest in lying about something like this. Hence, there's no reason for a conspiracy to exist. Besides, 2500 years is a long time to run a conspiracy. How does it answer nothing? Never heard of the saying knowledge is power? That power corrupts and absolute power absolutely corrupts? Yes, it's easier to fool people then convince them they have been fooled. So by this logic, most of us are fooled. ie. Flat Earthers are the minority, globe Earthers are the majority. If the world finally woke to the flat Earth truth, it would be the ultimate red pill out of the matrix pulled over our eyes. For me personally, nothing woke me up more to what's really going on in the world then flat Earth and the flat Earth community. And it's very liberating, otherwise I'd just be stumbling in the dark.
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Post by Terminator Force on Dec 13, 2018 11:42:16 GMT
Alright, here's a simple way to answer this. If you don't know how to take care of your health/well being and how to heal yourself, you're dependent on the medical establishment.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Dec 13, 2018 11:46:26 GMT
Knowledge is in the hands of the few and the rest are kept ignorant. The classic structure for manipulation and control. Seems pretty self explanatory to me. You mean like attempting to convince people that a 2000+ year old book contains scientific fact so that they ill listen to whatever other nonsense you say?
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Post by Terminator Force on Dec 13, 2018 11:51:56 GMT
Knowledge is in the hands of the few and the rest are kept ignorant. The classic structure for manipulation and control. Seems pretty self explanatory to me. You mean like attempting to convince people that a 2000+ year old book contains scientific fact so that they ill listen to whatever other nonsense you say? Not sure how you came to that conclusion, other then you're really not a fan of the bible.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Dec 13, 2018 11:56:15 GMT
And what assumptions are these that I make? Don't just say it, show me. OK There is no evidence to the distance or size the sun, it's based on a ton of assumptions. Assertion with no evidence. Prove its based on assumptions. Look up what scientists actually say and prove those are assumptions Look, I don't claim to know how sun eclipses work. Just know it's not what they tell us; Assertion with no evidence. You "know" it's not what they tell us how? You even admit you have no idea, so why would anyone take you seriously? And if you don't know, why do you believe it so strongly? Did you know that the moon is never seen going in front of the sun? In fact, the moon goes missing for 3 days during a sun eclipse. There are some other anomalies too I might show later. Two assertions for the price of one. No facts. Oh, you assert that it's a fact, but where is the evidence?
The moon has been recorded moving across the sun. It was a moon as it approaches the sun, still a moon as it blocks it, and a moon after it passes. Eclipses don't last for 3 days so that's a bizarre claim to make. Also, the moon covers more or less of the sun base on where you are on the planet. how is that possible on a flat earth model?
You still haven't said why this is evidence of the shape of the earth. All I'm seeing is nonsense claims about distance.
Stop making assumptions and assertions, and claiming them as fact.
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Post by Terminator Force on Dec 13, 2018 12:20:13 GMT
And what assumptions are these that I make? Don't just say it, show me. OK There is no evidence to the distance or size the sun, it's based on a ton of assumptions. Assertion with no evidence. Prove its based on assumptions. Look up what scientists actually say and prove those are assumptions Look, I don't claim to know how sun eclipses work. Just know it's not what they tell us; Assertion with no evidence. You "know" it's not what they tell us how? You even admit you have no idea, so why would anyone take you seriously? And if you don't know, why do you believe it so strongly? Did you know that the moon is never seen going in front of the sun? In fact, the moon goes missing for 3 days during a sun eclipse. There are some other anomalies too I might show later. Two assertions for the price of one. No facts. Oh, you assert that it's a fact, but where is the evidence?
The moon has been recorded moving across the sun. It was a moon as it approaches the sun, still a moon as it blocks it, and a moon after it passes. Eclipses don't last for 3 days so that's a bizarre claim to make. Also, the moon covers more or less of the sun base on where you are on the planet. how is that possible on a flat earth model?
You still haven't said why this is evidence of the shape of the earth. All I'm seeing is nonsense claims about distance.
Stop making assumptions and assertions, and claiming them as fact.
There is no evidence to distance and size of the sun, it's based on assumptions like shape of Earth, diameter of Earth and that Venus is a tangible object and same size as Earth. It's well known that the moon can't be seen during a sun eclipse. Here's one mainstream article ( Forbes) trying to explain why we can't see the moon as an example. As for the moon disappearing for 3 days before or around new moon, well, next new Moon is January 6th. Check it out. Hopefully it's not a cloudy day. Can also use a phone app that shows you where the moon is supposed to be.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Dec 13, 2018 12:25:05 GMT
It's well known that the moon can't be seen during a sun eclipse. Here's one mainstream article ( Forbes) trying to explain why we can't see the moon as an example. As for the moon disappearing for 3 days before or around new moon, well, next new Moon is January 6th. Check it out. Hopefully it's not a cloudy day. Can also use a phone app that shows you where the moon is supposed to be. You said during a solar eclipse, specifically, but yes, that would be during a new moon, as you say. Now, tell me why the moon has phases, just as it would if the "mainstream" view was accurate.
While we're at it, regale me with your explanation of time zones. That should be fun. In the FE model, the sun lights up the entire flat disk of the planet all day. But that isnt the case. I can call relatives in China and they will tell me its midnight where they are. Tell me how this is possible.
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Post by Terminator Force on Dec 13, 2018 12:25:51 GMT
Actually, Occam's Razor favors flat Earth. ie. Flat Earthers see a building across a lake and say "Building." Ball Earthers go "No, the building you're seeing there is a hologram. It's being refracted over the curvature of the Earth because we have this model we believe in with a presuppositional Earth radius value." Not a hologram, you are being a tad disingenuous here. That aside, the reason I referred to Occam's Razor is because you are quick to assume a stupendously massive conspiracy, when there's very little to be gained here. "Money and power" is not the answer in this case either, because "the powers that be" wouldn't need to go to such lengths merely to control the population, etc. The issue with this conspiracy theory is the same issue with many others: You are assuming a massive level of selective incompetence, unlimited resources, and sufficient motive on the part of the "powers that be", when there's no reason to assume either. Your claim of a massive conspiracy when the occasional weird phenomenons you like point out as "proof" are easily explained by much simpler means - is an extraordinary claim, and as such, requires extraordinary proof to be taken seriously. As an ex-religious guy I'm familiar with the type of circular logic you are using here: You are emotionally invested in one thing being the truth, and you would accept any explanation that supports your base assumption no matter how flimsy and far-fetched, while dismissing much simpler and likelier explanations as wrong and insufficient. Am I being disingenuous? What else do you call a projection? I'm not quick to assume anything. I've researched flat Earth and the heliocentric mainstream view pretty much daily since January. Did not come to conclusion Earth was flat until 2-3 months into researching flat Earth 24-7. How long have you looked into flat Earth? Or are you just assuming it's wrong without looking into it?
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Post by Terminator Force on Dec 13, 2018 12:31:38 GMT
It's well known that the moon can't be seen during a sun eclipse. Here's one mainstream article ( Forbes) trying to explain why we can't see the moon as an example. As for the moon disappearing for 3 days before or around new moon, well, next new Moon is January 6th. Check it out. Hopefully it's not a cloudy day. Can also use a phone app that shows you where the moon is supposed to be. You said during a solar eclipse, specifically, but yes, that would be during a new moon, as you say. Now, tell me why the moon has phases, just as it would if the "mainstream" view was accurate.
While we're at it, regal mwe with your explanation of time zones. That should be fun. In the FE model, the sun lights up the entire flat disk of the planet all day. But that isnt the case. I can call relatives in China and they will tell me its midnight where they are. Tell me how this is possible.
Well solar eclipses are pretty rare. Much easier to see moon disappears during before or around new moon phase for 3 days when it should be visible according to the heliocentric model. As for timezones, light is local and noble gasses in our atmosphere play a role in this too.
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Post by Terminator Force on Dec 13, 2018 12:41:27 GMT
Am I being disingenuous? What else do you call a projection? I'm not quick to assume anything. I've researched flat Earth and the heliocentric mainstream view pretty much daily since January. Did not come to conclusion Earth was flat until 2-3 months into researching flat Earth 24-7. How long have you looked into flat Earth? Or are you just assuming it's wrong without looking into it? You are dodging the question yet again. What are the motives? Why waste so much resources on such a massive conspiracy when "the truth" would be so much easier and simpler to manage? (plus the potential of using said "truth" as a scare tactic and justification for projects intended to protect us from "falling off" or whatever...) For context, would the medical establishment make more money by teaching folks how to stay healthy and heal themselves or by keeping this knowledge hidden?
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Post by Terminator Force on Dec 13, 2018 13:01:31 GMT
For context, would the medical establishment make more money by teaching folks how to stay healthy and heal themselves or by keeping this knowledge hidden? As I said, I see the "truth" in this case as no less lucrative and possibly more so. As for the medical industry, I mean, it's not like most people make a real effort to stay healthy even when it comes to relatively mild and obvious stuff, like "get some exercise", etc. So there's really no need to go out of your way to keep the industry going, laziness and human nature are enough. So it doesn't make sense to you that a brainwashed ignorant person would be easier to manipulate and control? Industries go out of their way to pinch every penny out of you every time.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Dec 13, 2018 13:23:00 GMT
You said during a solar eclipse, specifically, but yes, that would be during a new moon, as you say. Now, tell me why the moon has phases, just as it would if the "mainstream" view was accurate.
While we're at it, regal mwe with your explanation of time zones. That should be fun. In the FE model, the sun lights up the entire flat disk of the planet all day. But that isnt the case. I can call relatives in China and they will tell me its midnight where they are. Tell me how this is possible.
Well solar eclipses are pretty rare. Much easier to see moon disappears during before or around new moon phase for 3 days when it should be visible according to the heliocentric model. As for timezones, light is local and noble gasses in our atmosphere play a role in this too. Don't show me nonsense videos. Explain it in your own words, without assertions and assumptions. Prove it.
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Post by Terminator Force on Dec 13, 2018 13:24:31 GMT
So it doesn't make sense to you that a brainwashed ignorant person would be easier to manipulate and control? Industries go out of their way to pinch every penny out of you every time. It doesn't matter if someone is "brainwashed ignorant", what matters when it comes to manipulation on a massive scale is that "the powers that be" are the ones with the solution to the all ills. Hell, if the problem is real and the "cure" is real - all the better. But to re-focus the conversation, again, show me the motive for this mind-boggling conspiracy, point me out to something you can only achieve by engaging in this scheme, something that's worth maintaining such a massive conspiracy for. But there's more profit to keep someone sick by eliminating the symptoms and not the cause so they keep buying your pills. Haven't seen my old man in years and wasn't too pleased to see he was on a tray of pills. This conversation has come full circle as the motive is; Knowledge is in the hands of the few and the rest are kept ignorant. The classic structure for manipulation and control.
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Post by Terminator Force on Dec 13, 2018 13:26:10 GMT
Well solar eclipses are pretty rare. Much easier to see moon disappears during before or around new moon phase for 3 days when it should be visible according to the heliocentric model. As for timezones, light is local and noble gasses in our atmosphere play a role in this too. Don't show me nonsense videos. Explain it in your own words, without assertions and assumptions. Prove it. They say a picture (or a video) is worth a thousand words. It's only a 5 min video. Play it at double speed if you have too.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Dec 13, 2018 13:38:05 GMT
So it doesn't make sense to you that a brainwashed ignorant person would be easier to manipulate and control? I've suggested this many times, yet you ignore it. Religions are the ones who stand to profit if more people believe what they say. Some of them are in the business of attempting to fool the ignorant (FE and creationism) in order to bolster their donation making ranks. They see science (ie mainstream) as a threat to their existence so make up stuff to attempt to get people to not believe science, and stick to what the bible says. This isn't an assumption, by the way, creationists have told me this. The people who wrote the bible, bronze age sheepherders as I like to call them, didn't have the tools we have for determining the nature of the world around them. Lightning was from God, Volvcanos were from God, everything that happened was 'explained' by goddidit. Sumerians, thousands of years before the Bible was written, came up with what you call the 'flat earth' model because, from their limited (by our standards) viewpoint, that's how the world appears. They didn't have telescopes, or jetplanes, no tools to measure or understand light or sound. They wrote all this down, in addition to many other stories you could now find in the bible, since the Bible is a collection of these stories, and reflects the prevailing knowledge of the times.
One more thing they didn't have is "noble gasses causing daylight" or whatever it is your video claims. That was apparently invented whole cloth when people pointed out to the crackpots that their theory doesnt hold water. You see, the authors of the bible and the older stories they based their writing on, didnt know about time zones, or jets, or telephones.. etc. They thought their world consisted of the Middle East. That's why the Sumerians wrote about a world wide flood sent by ther gods, because when their rivers flooded (Euphrates) they thought that was the entire world.
All this to say, eve if you insist on believing in the existence of a conspiracy to control the ignorant masses, it's a tad hypocritical considering that's exactly what flat earthers and many other religious groups, are attempting to do. But hey, have fun being brainwashed and controlled.
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