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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 11, 2019 2:27:24 GMT
How does that prove the shape of the Earth? Grab a ball, a sheet of paper and a flashlight and figure it out for yourself (that is, IF you can). So you're asserting that day and night can only be explained with the heliocentric model. That's not conclusive proof.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 11, 2019 2:29:17 GMT
What are these facts of the solar system? Share one. Oh let's have some fun I guess, how about the distance from the earth to the moon is on average 385,000 km. polac.obspm.fr/llrdatae.htmlAlright, so me proof for that distance.
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Post by lennybusker on Jan 11, 2019 2:30:46 GMT
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Post by lennybusker on Jan 11, 2019 2:34:24 GMT
Alright, so me proof for that distance. It's right there in the link. Do you understand what is at the link? Can you summarize it for me in your own words?
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 11, 2019 2:36:08 GMT
Grab a ball, a sheet of paper and a flashlight and figure it out for yourself (that is, IF you can). So you're asserting that day and night can only be explained with the heliocentric model. That's not conclusive proof. And your flat earth BS, that BTW you have not given ANY conclusive proof yourself, is? media.giphy.com/media/l0HlJ3hU33yIgQBiM/giphy.gif
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 11, 2019 2:45:00 GMT
evidence of the actual facts of the solar system: You've dodged the question. Asked for proof to distance of moon you asserted.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 11, 2019 2:52:58 GMT
So you're asserting that day and night can only be explained with the heliocentric model. That's not conclusive proof. And your flat earth BS, that BTW you have not given ANY conclusive proof yourself, is? Don't need to assert anything, the world is obviously and observably flat. You're the one asserting curve without having ever seen it.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 11, 2019 2:55:35 GMT
And your flat earth BS, that BTW you have not given ANY conclusive proof yourself, is? Don't need to assert anything, the world is obviously and observably flat. You're the one asserting curve without having ever seen it. Then where is your proof? All I have seen from you is the ravings of a religious cultist.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 11, 2019 2:59:25 GMT
Don't need to assert anything, the world is obviously and observably flat. You're the one asserting curve without having ever seen it. Then where is your proof? All I have seen from you is the ravings of a religious cultist. Open my eyes and see that the world is obviously and observably flat. Now your turn.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 11, 2019 3:00:55 GMT
Then where is your proof? All I have seen from you is the ravings of a religious cultist. Open my eyes and see that the world is obviously and observably flat. Now you're turn. That's not proof. Do you even know what the word proof means?
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 11, 2019 3:04:02 GMT
Open my eyes and see that the world is obviously and observably flat. Now you're turn. That's not proof. Do you even know what the word proof means? Why don't you show me.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 11, 2019 3:13:14 GMT
That's not proof. Do you even know what the word proof means? Why don't you show me. Lots of people on this thread have already done that. So why should I waste my time posting images of the planet taken from satellites in orbit when your just going to say "that's fake"? I've dealt with your type of people before, no amount of evidence that will prove you wrong is going to change your viewpoint.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 11, 2019 3:16:53 GMT
Lots of people on this thread have already done that. So why should I waste my posting images of the planet taken from satellites in orbit when your just going to say "that's fake"? I've dealt with your type of people before, no amount of evidence that will prove you wrong is going to change your viewpoint. Pictures from satellites is an appeal to authority fallacy since space travel is not yet open to the public. Therefore an invalid argument.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 11, 2019 3:19:16 GMT
Alright, so me proof for that distance. It's right there in the link. Do you understand what is at the link? Can you summarize it for me in your own words? Sorry, was busy pugging in Andromeda with a BSNer. That link is an appeal to authority fallacy, need to provide something we can verify for ourselves.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 11, 2019 3:20:44 GMT
Lots of people on this thread have already done that. So why should I waste my posting images of the planet taken from satellites in orbit when your just going to say "that's fake"? I've dealt with your type of people before, no amount of evidence that will prove you wrong is going to change your viewpoint. Pictures from satellites is an appeal to authority fallacy since space travel is not yet open to the public. Therefore an invalid argument. ih0.redbubble.net/image.573222217.3799/raf,750x1000,075,t,heather_grey_lightweight_raglan_sweatshirt.u3.jpg
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 11, 2019 3:21:38 GMT
Pictures from satellites is an appeal to authority fallacy since space travel is not yet open to the public. Therefore an invalid argument. ih0.redbubble.net/image.573222217.3799/raf,750x1000,075,t,heather_grey_lightweight_raglan_sweatshirt.u3.jpg That's just your assertion.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 11, 2019 3:28:12 GMT
That's just your assertion. No, that's what I suspected. You just been confirming it with your posts.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 11, 2019 3:31:33 GMT
That's just your assertion. No, that's what I suspected. You just been confirming it with your posts. Show me where I'm wrong, don't just assert it.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 11, 2019 3:42:20 GMT
No, that's what I suspected. You just been confirming it with your posts. Show me where I'm wrong, don't just assert it. Oh, I could easily, but I got a very, very, very good feeling that your going say that I'm asserting it.
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Post by lennybusker on Jan 11, 2019 5:19:05 GMT
It's right there in the link. Do you understand what is at the link? Can you summarize it for me in your own words? Sorry, was busy pugging in Andromeda with a BSNer. That link is an appeal to authority fallacy, need to provide something we can verify for ourselves. That's not what appeal to authority is. An appeal to authority would be me saying that the earth is spherical because [authority figure] said it was. Listening to someone present evidence of something and then agreeing that they have made their case adequately enough for agreement is not a fallacy, it's how you accept anything that you yourself didn't personally witness as true. If I told you I had a bagel for breakfast, and you said nuh uh prove it, and I provided a receipt dated that morning for a bagel, then you would be perfectly reasonable in accepting my claim as true. I would not have committed a fallacy, and you would not be committing one in accepting my claim. You need to understand things like this before you use those words and phrases. But then, I guess going on and on about something without having any fucking idea what they're saying is pretty much the standard flat earth MO, so you'll continue with that I assume.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 11, 2019 10:56:30 GMT
Show me where I'm wrong, don't just assert it. Oh, I could easily, but I got a very, very, very good feeling that your going say that I'm asserting it. Try me. Sorry, was busy pugging in Andromeda with a BSNer. That link is an appeal to authority fallacy, need to provide something we can verify for ourselves. That's not what appeal to authority is. An appeal to authority would be me saying that the earth is spherical because [authority figure] said it was. Listening to someone present evidence of something and then agreeing that they have made their case adequately enough for agreement is not a fallacy, it's how you accept anything that you yourself didn't personally witness as true. If I told you I had a bagel for breakfast, and you said nuh uh prove it, and I provided a receipt dated that morning for a bagel, then you would be perfectly reasonable in accepting my claim as true. I would not have committed a fallacy, and you would not be committing one in accepting my claim. You need to understand things like this before you use those words and phrases. But then, I guess going on and on about something without having any fucking idea what they're saying is pretty much the standard flat earth MO, so you'll continue with that I assume. Showing me receipt that you had a bagel for breakfast is an affirming the consequent formal logical fallacy in that one does not necessarily follow the other. ie. if I ate bagel, then I'd have receipt. If I have receipt, then I ate bagel. Well what if bagel was given to someone else, left at the checkout counter, got mugged for it, etc?
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Post by lennybusker on Jan 11, 2019 11:19:18 GMT
Oh, I could easily, but I got a very, very, very good feeling that your going say that I'm asserting it. Try me. ... That's not what appeal to authority is. An appeal to authority would be me saying that the earth is spherical because [authority figure] said it was. Listening to someone present evidence of something and then agreeing that they have made their case adequately enough for agreement is not a fallacy, it's how you accept anything that you yourself didn't personally witness as true. If I told you I had a bagel for breakfast, and you said nuh uh prove it, and I provided a receipt dated that morning for a bagel, then you would be perfectly reasonable in accepting my claim as true. I would not have committed a fallacy, and you would not be committing one in accepting my claim. You need to understand things like this before you use those words and phrases. But then, I guess going on and on about something without having any fucking idea what they're saying is pretty much the standard flat earth MO, so you'll continue with that I assume. Showing me receipt that you had a bagel for breakfast is an affirming the consequent formal logical fallacy in that one does not necessarily follow the other. ie. if I ate bagel, then I'd have receipt. If I have receipt, then I ate bagel. Well what if bagel was given to someone else, left at the checkout counter, got mugged for it, etc? I never said that accepting my argument for bagel breakfast is a statement of fact. I said that it would simply be reasonable for you to accept it as sufficiently supported by evidence. But see this is you just flipping the checkers board again. You (YOU, TF) don't actually operate that way in real life. I know you don't, and if you tell me you do you're a goddamn liar. It's all just a rhetorical safety net so you can never be forced to accept a position you support as being sufficiently disproven. It would almost be clever if it weren't so clumsy and cowardly.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 11, 2019 11:23:07 GMT
Try me. ... Showing me receipt that you had a bagel for breakfast is an affirming the consequent formal logical fallacy in that one does not necessarily follow the other. ie. if I ate bagel, then I'd have receipt. If I have receipt, then I ate bagel. Well what if bagel was given to someone else, left at the checkout counter, got mugged for it, etc? I never said that accepting my argument for bagel breakfast is a statement of fact. I said that it would simply be reasonable for you to accept it as sufficiently supported by evidence. But see this is you just flipping the checkers board again. You (YOU, TF) don't actually operate that way in real life. I know you don't, and if you tell me you do you're a goddamn liar. It's all just a rhetorical safety net so you can never be forced to accept a position you support as being sufficiently disproven. It would almost be clever if it weren't so clumsy and cowardly. It wasn't an argument. Fallacies are non-arguments.
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Post by lennybusker on Jan 11, 2019 11:34:39 GMT
I never said that accepting my argument for bagel breakfast is a statement of fact. I said that it would simply be reasonable for you to accept it as sufficiently supported by evidence. But see this is you just flipping the checkers board again. You (YOU, TF) don't actually operate that way in real life. I know you don't, and if you tell me you do you're a goddamn liar. It's all just a rhetorical safety net so you can never be forced to accept a position you support as being sufficiently disproven. It would almost be clever if it weren't so clumsy and cowardly. It wasn't an argument. Fallacies are non-arguments. Making syntatically correct but semantically meaningless statements is not an argument, either.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 11, 2019 11:43:28 GMT
It wasn't an argument. Fallacies are non-arguments. Making syntatically correct but semantically meaningless statements is not an argument, either. You're obfuscating. Let me re-clarify, I'm looking for a valid (non-fallacious) argument to determine the shape of the Earth.
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