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Post by lennybusker on Jan 11, 2019 12:08:51 GMT
Making syntatically correct but semantically meaningless statements is not an argument, either. You're obfuscating. Let me re-clarify, I'm looking for a valid (non-fallacious) argument to determine the shape of the Earth. You're prevaricating. There is no argument that you would accept as valid. i.imgur.com/wPoAye0.png
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 11, 2019 12:29:05 GMT
You're obfuscating. Let me re-clarify, I'm looking for a valid (non-fallacious) argument to determine the shape of the Earth. You're prevaricating. There is no argument that you would accept as valid. If you can provide one valid (non-fallacious) argument to the shape of the Earth, I will concede.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Jan 11, 2019 13:02:40 GMT
You're prevaricating. There is no argument that you would accept as valid. If you can provide one valid (non-fallacious) argument to the shape of the Earth, I will concede. No you won’t, and you know it. There is no argument that you will accept that contradicts your religious belief. To you, everything that contradicts flat earth is a “fallacy”.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 11, 2019 13:13:52 GMT
If you can provide one valid (non-fallacious) argument to the shape of the Earth, I will concede. No you won’t, and you know it. There is no argument that you will accept that contradicts your religious belief. To you, everything that contradicts flat earth is a “fallacy”. Well if it's fallacious, it's an invalid argument. Logical fallacies have been well defined to not waste time arguing and more quickly arrive at logical conclusion.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Jan 11, 2019 13:25:36 GMT
No you won’t, and you know it. There is no argument that you will accept that contradicts your religious belief. To you, everything that contradicts flat earth is a “fallacy”. Well if it's fallacious, it's an invalid argument. Logical fallacies have been well defined to not waste time arguing and more quickly arrive at logical conclusion. Which you’ve yet to do. You don’t even recognize your own fallacies.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 11, 2019 13:35:29 GMT
Well if it's fallacious, it's an invalid argument. Logical fallacies have been well defined to not waste time arguing and more quickly arrive at logical conclusion. Which you’ve yet to do. You don’t even recognize your own fallacies. Don't just assert it, show me where I'm fallacious.
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Post by 『Sky-High Fly-Guy』 on Jan 11, 2019 13:57:27 GMT
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Post by Space Cowboy on Jan 11, 2019 15:30:13 GMT
Which you’ve yet to do. You don’t even recognize your own fallacies. Don't just assert it, show me where I'm fallacious. I’ve done so before, as have others. You just ignore it. You aren’t interested in a proper discussion
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 11, 2019 16:07:56 GMT
Don't just assert it, show me where I'm fallacious. I’ve done so before, as have others. You just ignore it. You aren’t interested in a proper discussion Yes, oversimplified fallacy if I recall correctly, but you didn't provide any context in explaining how it applied to me.
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Post by lennybusker on Jan 11, 2019 16:35:53 GMT
You're prevaricating. There is no argument that you would accept as valid. If you can provide one valid (non-fallacious) argument to the shape of the Earth, I will concede. But you would be the arbiter of whether or not it's valid, and you've shown time and again that your judgment is untrustworthy, therefore there's no point. Any argument relies on premises, and you'll reject any premises that lead to an argument contra to your religious belief. You're asking us to play a game of Calvinball where the only rule is that you win.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 11, 2019 16:50:59 GMT
If you can provide one valid (non-fallacious) argument to the shape of the Earth, I will concede. But you would be the arbiter of whether or not it's valid, and you've shown time and again that your judgment is untrustworthy, therefore there's no point. Any argument relies on premises, and you'll reject any premises that lead to an argument contra to your religious belief. You're asking us to play a game of Calvinball where the only rule is that you win. Didn't write the rules to valid arguments, nor did I define the numerous logical fallacies. These are just general guidelines to prevent arguments from descending into farce.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Jan 11, 2019 16:56:25 GMT
But you would be the arbiter of whether or not it's valid, and you've shown time and again that your judgment is untrustworthy, therefore there's no point. Any argument relies on premises, and you'll reject any premises that lead to an argument contra to your religious belief. You're asking us to play a game of Calvinball where the only rule is that you win. Didn't write the rules to valid arguments, nor did I define the numerous logical fallacies. These are just general guidelines to prevent arguments from descending into farce. And you ignore any that you commit.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 11, 2019 17:10:35 GMT
Didn't write the rules to valid arguments, nor did I define the numerous logical fallacies. These are just general guidelines to prevent arguments from descending into farce. And you ignore any that you commit. And that ladies and gents is why this whole debate is pointless (that is, if you call someone who only response is "you're wrong, I'm right so nah nah!").
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 11, 2019 17:11:35 GMT
Didn't write the rules to valid arguments, nor did I define the numerous logical fallacies. These are just general guidelines to prevent arguments from descending into farce. And you ignore any that you commit. Well if you don't clearly point out my logical fallacies, how am I to know?
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 11, 2019 17:16:43 GMT
And you ignore any that you commit. And that ladies and gents is why this whole debate is pointless (that is, if you call someone who only response is "you're wrong, I'm right so nah nah!"). Misrepresenting. I've never hand wave dismissed any shape of Earth evidence without addressing it.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 11, 2019 17:20:51 GMT
And that ladies and gents is why this whole debate is pointless (that is, if you call someone who only response is "you're wrong, I'm right so nah nah!"). Misrepresenting. I've never hand wave dismissed any shape of Earth evidence without addressing it. You owe a new BS detector because the level of BS in this post broke mine.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Jan 11, 2019 17:23:59 GMT
And that ladies and gents is why this whole debate is pointless (that is, if you call someone who only response is "you're wrong, I'm right so nah nah!"). Misrepresenting. I've never hand wave dismissed any shape of Earth evidence without addressing it. Claiming a fallacy or an assertion, and then ignoring it is not addressing it.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 11, 2019 17:27:00 GMT
Misrepresenting. I've never hand wave dismissed any shape of Earth evidence without addressing it. You owe a new BS detector because the level of BS in this post broke mine. That's just your assertion.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 11, 2019 17:29:35 GMT
You owe a new BS detector because the level of BS in this post broke mine. That's just your assertion. And your assertion is that the earth is flat.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 11, 2019 17:30:02 GMT
Misrepresenting. I've never hand wave dismissed any shape of Earth evidence without addressing it. Claiming a fallacy or an assertion, and then ignoring it is not addressing it. Couldn't spot the fallacy so took it as an obfuscation tactic and rightfully ignored it to keep on point.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 11, 2019 17:32:11 GMT
That's just your assertion. And your assertion is that the earth is flat. It's not an assertion. I open my eyes and see that the world is obviously and observably flat. If you don't agree with what our eyes see, you're going to have to provide a valid counterargument to how our eyes are lying to us about the shape of the Earth.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Jan 11, 2019 17:34:00 GMT
And your assertion is that the earth is flat. It's not an assertion. I open my eyes and see that the world is obviously and observably flat. If you don't agree with what our eyes see, you're going to have to provide a valid counterargument to how our eyes are lying to us about the shape of the Earth. Argument from personal incredulity. Just because you can’t, or refus to, see why you might be wrong, doesn’t make you right or any less fallacious
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 11, 2019 17:34:31 GMT
And your assertion is that the earth is flat. It's not an assertion. I open my eyes and see that the world is obviously and observably flat. If you don't agree with what our eyes see, you're going to have to provide a valid counterargument to how our eyes are lying to us about the shape of the Earth. And your going have to provide a valid counterargument how the earth is flat. (I can do this all day).
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 11, 2019 17:35:38 GMT
It's not an assertion. I open my eyes and see that the world is obviously and observably flat. If you don't agree with what our eyes see, you're going to have to provide a valid counterargument to how our eyes are lying to us about the shape of the Earth. Argument from personal incredulity. Just because you can’t, or refus to, see why you might be wrong, doesn’t make you right or any less fallacious Don't refuse that I might be wrong. Just waiting for a proper counterargument.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 11, 2019 17:37:23 GMT
It's not an assertion. I open my eyes and see that the world is obviously and observably flat. If you don't agree with what our eyes see, you're going to have to provide a valid counterargument to how our eyes are lying to us about the shape of the Earth. And your going have to provide a valid counterargument how the earth is flat. (I can do this all day). Have already stated the world is obviously and observably flat. As in, I don't open my eyes and see Earth curve, therefore no need to assert Earth curve. Now if you can show me a valid counterargument, I'll be forced to concede.
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