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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Jan 12, 2019 21:07:42 GMT
Seeing as the flat earth debate was going nowhere, let's have a REAL debate. BBQ sauce vs chill sauce: which one tastes better with burgers? It depends on the burger and the sauce, really. This. When I think about a burger, right now, I think about Mushrooms and Bleu Cheese. With crispy bacon. I don't want BBQ or chili sauce in this instance. I'd take mayo and be happy. Now, if you are talking some grass-fed beef topped with seared pork belly and some pickled cabbage, I think I'd like a chili aioli perhaps, or maybe even some sort of hoisin/BBQ hybrid. A well made Tuna Burger is amazeballs, garlic mayo with soy reduction... Hickory Smoked Gouda Bacon Burger - yeah, gimme that BBQ man I'm hungry!
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 12, 2019 21:17:04 GMT
You guys may be interested in this one too, stream airs live 1 hour prior to Flaturday debate (so in 4 hours for this and 5 hours for Flaturday). Full video title is " FlatEarth CGI Rhetoric Destroyed by Hollywood SFX Matthew Walker." According to video description (copy/pasted in spoiler), he worked on Bad Time at the El Royale (2018), The Great Wall (2016), Fury (2014), The Fate of the Furious (2017). #FlatEarth believers often point to images from space and declare they are #cgi while the rest of us just facepalm and laugh. Matthew Robert Walker is a director, writer and special effects artist who was born on December 14, 1988, in Miami, Arizona. From an early age signs of his future career were apparent. In 2007 and 2008 Matthew left the country to direct two documentaries on language educators in Papua New Guinea and Slovakia. Upon his return to the U.S. he attended Scottsdale Community College. With limited financial options he scratched together enough to fund several projects during his tenure at his hometown college. Several of the projects gained notoriety due to their production value which lent Matthew the opportunity to Direct his first major music video for Atlantic Record's Portugal. The Man (2011). After graduating with two degrees in motion picture production he filled his time by working on short films, music videos and commercials as a visual effects artist. In 2014, frustrated with the lack of work eventually Matthew relocated to Los Angeles to pursue his career as a Visual Effects Artist and Director. Shortly after his relocation he has had the opportunity to work on feature #films and network television as an editor and visual effects artist.
Noteable Films: Bad Times at the El Royale (2018), The Great Wall (I) (2016), Fury (2014), The Fate of the Furious (2017)
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Jan 12, 2019 21:19:53 GMT
On topic: both Meatballs and burgers exist. Without parallelism.
Neither can replace the other. I do not want spaghetti and hamburger, and I do not want a bbq meatball...
WAIT A GOD DAMNED MINUTE.
I do want a BBQ meatball sub. Yet, I do not want spaghetti and hamburger.
Flat burger confirmed to be inferior to globe meatball.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 12, 2019 21:41:29 GMT
On topic: both Meatballs and burgers exist. Without parallelism. Neither can replace the other. I do not want spaghetti and hamburger, and I do not want a bbq meatball... WAIT A GOD DAMNED MINUTE. I do want a BBQ meatball sub. Yet, I do not want spaghetti and hamburger. Flat burger confirmed to be inferior to globe meatball. I feel ya. 👍
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 21:48:15 GMT
Maybe this question was already answered/asked but I haven't following this thread lately (and maybe it is a dumb question ) How can you explain seasons day/night cycles from a flat earth perspective?
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 12, 2019 21:50:25 GMT
Maybe this question was already answered/asked but I haven't following this thread lately (and maybe it is a dumb question ) How can you explain seasons day/night cycles from a flat earth perspective? Don't you know? It's space magic!
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Post by Sylvius the Mad on Jan 12, 2019 21:54:48 GMT
"The world is obviously and observably flat." That's where you're wrong. You appear to hold this conclusion without being able to support it at all. Don't just assert it, show me how I'm wrong. I can't show a thing that isn't there. I'm not claiming you're wrong about the earth being flat. I'm claiming you're wrong in believing the earth is flat. You're wrong because you hold this conclusion without being able to justify it. You keep telling people they need to prove the globe, but you also need to prove the flat earth. You don't hold your own beliefs to the same standard as you hold others (a common problem known as confirmation bias). I'm asking you to stop doing that. What evidence can you offer that the earth is flat? Lacking that evidence, why do you think the earth is flat?
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 12, 2019 22:05:15 GMT
Maybe this question was already answered/asked but I haven't following this thread lately (and maybe it is a dumb question ) How can you explain seasons day/night cycles from a flat earth perspective? Light is local.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 12, 2019 22:07:42 GMT
Maybe this question was already answered/asked but I haven't following this thread lately (and maybe it is a dumb question ) How can you explain seasons day/night cycles from a flat earth perspective? Don't you know? It's space magic! Light being seen from light years away is space magic according to the inverse square law of light.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 12, 2019 22:09:11 GMT
Don't just assert it, show me how I'm wrong. I can't show a thing that isn't there. I'm not claiming you're wrong about the earth being flat. I'm claiming you're wrong in believing the earth is flat. You're wrong because you hold this conclusion without being able to justify it. You keep telling people they need to prove the globe, but you also need to prove the flat earth. You don't hold your own beliefs to the same standard as you hold others (a common problem known as confirmation bias). I'm asking you to stop doing that. What evidence can you offer that the earth is flat? Lacking that evidence, why do you think the earth is flat? I open my eyes, walk to a beach and observe the horizon is flat. Grab some beach water in my palm and observe water always finds it's level. Then grab a comfy seat with cold brew in my hand and observe a boat vanish into the vanishing point of my perspective.
Now your turn, show me the next logical step toward your position.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Jan 12, 2019 22:14:27 GMT
Don't you know? It's space magic! Light being seen from light years away is space magic according to the inverse square law of light. The image and your interpretation ignore several crucial things. First, the image displays correctly but ignores what it displays. The light source still has a focus, and variable intensity at its furthest range depending on that focus. Thus, this light source is not like the sun. The inverse square law guarantees that some light reaches everything in the universe from one source. Just an infinitesimal amount. Ergo, it doesn't help your argument. The failure of the meme is in the meme.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 12, 2019 22:29:44 GMT
Light being seen from light years away is space magic according to the inverse square law of light. The image and your interpretation ignore several crucial things. First, the image displays correctly but ignores what it displays. The light source still has a focus, and variable intensity at its furthest range depending on that focus. Thus, this light source is not like the sun. The inverse square law guarantees that some light reaches everything in the universe from one source. Just an infinitesimal amount. Ergo, it doesn't help your argument. The failure of the meme is in the meme. It's not a meme, got it from this source; www.diyphotography.net/lighting-design-easy-way-secrets-inverse-square-law-light/If that doesn't satisfy you, google inverse square law of light.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 12, 2019 22:45:24 GMT
Lol Eddie Bravo. Dude is a scrub! Have had beers with he and Renzo in New York years ago; not what I would call real bright. The Twister, his patented move, is a crank - in other words, it is a brute move and not real BJJ, more a catch wrestling thing. So, that he supports FE is no surprise. Also, TF gave himself away a few posts ago. He has been trolling all along as I have said before - Flat Earth is more "entertaining" to him than games or movies. I spy a troll. Admit it Sinful. I caught that, too.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 12, 2019 22:48:02 GMT
Lol Eddie Bravo. Dude is a scrub! Have had beers with he and Renzo in New York years ago; not what I would call real bright. The Twister, his patented move, is a crank - in other words, it is a brute move and not real BJJ, more a catch wrestling thing. So, that he supports FE is no surprise. Also, TF gave himself away a few posts ago. He has been trolling all along as I have said before - Flat Earth is more "entertaining" to him than games or movies. I spy a troll. Admit it Sinful. Guy was easy to spot. He gave himself away when he could not answer a question without a BS response. You most every time he responded?
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jan 12, 2019 22:50:11 GMT
Guy was easy to spot. He gave himself away when he could not answer a question without a BS response. You most every time he responded? Yep. His responses were transparent.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 12, 2019 22:52:44 GMT
It depends on the burger and the sauce, really. This. When I think about a burger, right now, I think about Mushrooms and Bleu Cheese. With crispy bacon. I don't want BBQ or chili sauce in this instance. I'd take mayo and be happy. Now, if you are talking some grass-fed beef topped with seared pork belly and some pickled cabbage, I think I'd like a chili aioli perhaps, or maybe even some sort of hoisin/BBQ hybrid. A well made Tuna Burger is amazeballs, garlic mayo with soy reduction... Hickory Smoked Gouda Bacon Burger - yeah, gimme that BBQ man I'm hungry! Mayo is good. Cheddar cheese is a favorite with feta cheese being a second favorite. Hate bleu cheese.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 12, 2019 22:53:23 GMT
On topic: both Meatballs and burgers exist. Without parallelism. Neither can replace the other. I do not want spaghetti and hamburger, and I do not want a bbq meatball... WAIT A GOD DAMNED MINUTE. I do want a BBQ meatball sub. Yet, I do not want spaghetti and hamburger. Flat burger confirmed to be inferior to globe meatball. I want meatballs. Burgers are too flat for me.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 12, 2019 22:57:09 GMT
I can't show a thing that isn't there. I'm not claiming you're wrong about the earth being flat. I'm claiming you're wrong in believing the earth is flat. You're wrong because you hold this conclusion without being able to justify it. You keep telling people they need to prove the globe, but you also need to prove the flat earth. You don't hold your own beliefs to the same standard as you hold others (a common problem known as confirmation bias). I'm asking you to stop doing that. What evidence can you offer that the earth is flat? Lacking that evidence, why do you think the earth is flat? I open my eyes, walk to a beach and observe the horizon is flat. Grab some beach water in my palm and observe water always finds it's level. Then grab a comfy seat with cold brew in my hand and observe a boat vanish into the vanishing point of my perspective.
Now your turn, show me the next logical step toward your position. I can't see China from New York, even with a telescope. I can't see London from New York, even with a telescope. Nor Hawaii, Russia or anywhere in South America. This is observably true.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 12, 2019 23:08:23 GMT
I open my eyes, walk to a beach and observe the horizon is flat. Grab some beach water in my palm and observe water always finds it's level. Then grab a comfy seat with cold brew in my hand and observe a boat vanish into the vanishing point of my perspective.
Now your turn, show me the next logical step toward your position. I can't see China from New York, even with a telescope. I can't see London from New York, even with a telescope. Nor Hawaii, Russia or anywhere in South America. This is observably true. Perspective and vanishing point (point of convergence).
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 12, 2019 23:28:06 GMT
I can't see China from New York, even with a telescope. I can't see London from New York, even with a telescope. Nor Hawaii, Russia or anywhere in South America. This is observably true. Perspective and vanishing point (point of convergence). I can see the end of a hallway. Don't know what hallways you're using. Point is, you claim that you look and see the Earth is flat. I'm saying if I use a telescope to look beyond the limits of my unenhanced vision that I still can't see distant places on Earth. Where did those places go? Do they occasionally vanish for some reason?
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 12, 2019 23:55:45 GMT
Perspective and vanishing point (point of convergence). I can see the end of a hallway. Don't know what hallways you're using. Point is, you claim that you look and see the Earth is flat. I'm saying if I use a telescope to look beyond the limits of my unenhanced vision that I still can't see distant places on Earth. Where did those places go? Do they occasionally vanish for some reason? You can't just zoom in forever, angular resolution and object size reduction prevent that. ie. Can zoom in on a pixel all you want, it will still be a pixel. ^ Timestamped to where he zooms out from a very distant mountain in infrared camera at 30,000 feet plane ride. This gives a good scale on how our vision works for long range distances.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 13, 2019 0:04:21 GMT
I can see the end of a hallway. Don't know what hallways you're using. Point is, you claim that you look and see the Earth is flat. I'm saying if I use a telescope to look beyond the limits of my unenhanced vision that I still can't see distant places on Earth. Where did those places go? Do they occasionally vanish for some reason? You can't just zoom in forever, angular resolution and object size reduction prevent that. ie. Can zoom in on a pixel all you want, it will still be a pixel. ^ Timestamped to where he zooms out from a very distant mountain in infrared camera at 30,000 feet plane ride. This gives a good scale on our our vision works for long range distances. Obviously fake.
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Post by lennybusker on Jan 13, 2019 0:09:17 GMT
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Me: "I haven't been here in a while, I wonder what kind of fun stuff people are talking about" BSN: Flat earth thread with seven pages is at the very top wew laddy Oh nice, it's now 42 pages long!
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