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Post by lennybusker on Jan 13, 2019 16:00:47 GMT
You literally just agreed that an IRLF Earth is a possibility. I'm asking you to conduct a thought experiment. Formal proofs have nothing to do with this right now, so pointing out (incorrectly) logically fallacies is meaningless. Alright, let us continue with this thought experiment. IRLF. What are some other properties you would expect of an IRLF Earth?
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 13, 2019 18:23:58 GMT
Alright, let us continue with this thought experiment. IRLF. What are some other properties you would expect of an IRLF Earth? May I ask you share what you've gathered so far on the refraction phenomena?
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Post by lennybusker on Jan 13, 2019 19:04:32 GMT
What are some other properties you would expect of an IRLF Earth? May I ask you share what you've gathered so far on the refraction phenomena? If you can explain why its relevant to you answering my previous question, sure.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 13, 2019 19:15:31 GMT
May I ask you share what you've gathered so far on the refraction phenomena? If you can explain why its relevant to you answering my previous question, sure. This is the narrative for Earth looking flat.
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Post by lennybusker on Jan 13, 2019 19:39:15 GMT
If you can explain why its relevant to you answering my previous question, sure. This is the narrative for Earth looking flat. Ok, sure. Refraction is the change in direction of a wave as it passes from one medium to another.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 13, 2019 19:51:54 GMT
This is the narrative for Earth looking flat. Ok, sure. Refraction is the change in direction of a wave as it passes from one medium to another. (24 second clip) Go on.
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Post by lennybusker on Jan 13, 2019 19:59:24 GMT
Ok, sure. Refraction is the change in direction of a wave as it passes from one medium to another. (24 second clip) Go on. Go on with what?
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 13, 2019 20:27:23 GMT
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Post by lennybusker on Jan 13, 2019 20:32:48 GMT
This is why digressions in debate are dangerous. If you'll recall we left off with a question for you. What are some other properties you would expect of an IRLF Earth?
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 13, 2019 20:57:50 GMT
This is why digressions in debate are dangerous. If you'll recall we left off with a question for you. What are some other properties you would expect of an IRLF Earth?Nothing comes to mind outside of repeating the standard narrative to entertain this thought experiment.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 13, 2019 22:07:45 GMT
You weren't looking for me to say scale, were you?
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Post by lennybusker on Jan 13, 2019 22:55:38 GMT
You weren't looking for me to say scale, were you? I don't know what you mean by that. I mean, everything has scale. Just looking for you to engage that noodle of yours.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 13, 2019 23:00:39 GMT
You weren't looking for me to say scale, were you? I don't know what you mean by that. I mean, everything has scale. Just looking for you to engage that noodle of yours. So we done here?
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Post by lennybusker on Jan 14, 2019 15:24:52 GMT
I don't know what you mean by that. I mean, everything has scale. Just looking for you to engage that noodle of yours. So we done here? Only if you wanna be. I still wonder why you take the appearance of a flat world as evidence for its actual nature, since you admit that the appearance could simply be an issue of perception. Is there some other evidence you take in that goes to the actual nature of the earth? Everything I've seen you post has been a refutation of the globe theory, rather than positive evidence of your own theory.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 14, 2019 15:36:33 GMT
Only if you wanna be. I still wonder why you take the appearance of a flat world as evidence for its actual nature, since you admit that the appearance could simply be an issue of perception. Is there some other evidence you take in that goes to the actual nature of the earth? Everything I've seen you post has been a refutation of the globe theory, rather than positive evidence of your own theory. Have you been doing investigative work onto why people are flat Earthers or just looking at FE debunking videos?
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Post by lennybusker on Jan 14, 2019 16:00:36 GMT
Only if you wanna be. I still wonder why you take the appearance of a flat world as evidence for its actual nature, since you admit that the appearance could simply be an issue of perception. Is there some other evidence you take in that goes to the actual nature of the earth? Everything I've seen you post has been a refutation of the globe theory, rather than positive evidence of your own theory. Have you been doing investigative work onto why people are flat Earthers or just looking at FE debunking videos? I am much more interested in why people believe incorrect things rather than their ill-informed and embarrassingly incorrect ramblings on youtube, yes. From what I've seen FE'ers typically come to their belief from a mixture of avenues: 1) Incredulity - "I can't understand science and math or fathom the incredible vastness of our discoveries and achievements therefore they are wrong" 2) Religious (Christian) adherence - "The bible says things which I construe to mean the earth is flat and the center of existence therefore evidence to the contrary is wrong" - even though many biblical scholars solidly refute that the Bible says anything like this 3) Conspiracy mindedness - "The government lies about some things therefore it's reasonable to assume they are lying about this" I'm omitting trolls from the list as I'm only concerned about true believers, and I disagree with other people who think the majority of FE'ers are trolls. Actually the majority that I've taken the time to listen to seem to be true believers.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 14, 2019 16:46:29 GMT
Have you been doing investigative work onto why people are flat Earthers or just looking at FE debunking videos? I am much more interested in why people believe incorrect things rather than their ill-informed and embarrassingly incorrect ramblings on youtube, yes. From what I've seen FE'ers typically come to their belief from a mixture of avenues: 1) Incredulity - "I can't understand science and math or fathom the incredible vastness of our discoveries and achievements therefore they are wrong" 2) Religious (Christian) adherence - "The bible says things which I construe to mean the earth is flat and the center of existence therefore evidence to the contrary is wrong" - even though many biblical scholars solidly refute that the Bible says anything like this 3) Conspiracy mindedness - "The government lies about some things therefore it's reasonable to assume they are lying about this" I'm omitting trolls from the list as I'm only concerned about true believers, and I disagree with other people who think the majority of FE'ers are trolls. Actually the majority that I've taken the time to listen to seem to be true believers. How is math not being understood in this video? (Rogers Center which should be hidden is the shiny building, btw)
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Post by lennybusker on Jan 14, 2019 19:00:28 GMT
I am much more interested in why people believe incorrect things rather than their ill-informed and embarrassingly incorrect ramblings on youtube, yes. From what I've seen FE'ers typically come to their belief from a mixture of avenues: 1) Incredulity - "I can't understand science and math or fathom the incredible vastness of our discoveries and achievements therefore they are wrong" 2) Religious (Christian) adherence - "The bible says things which I construe to mean the earth is flat and the center of existence therefore evidence to the contrary is wrong" - even though many biblical scholars solidly refute that the Bible says anything like this 3) Conspiracy mindedness - "The government lies about some things therefore it's reasonable to assume they are lying about this" I'm omitting trolls from the list as I'm only concerned about true believers, and I disagree with other people who think the majority of FE'ers are trolls. Actually the majority that I've taken the time to listen to seem to be true believers. How is math not being understood in this video? (Rogers Center which should be hidden is the shiny building, btw) The math of superior mirages. (Homework study question: why does the top of Rogers Center appear inverted?)
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 14, 2019 19:18:21 GMT
How is math not being understood in this video? (Rogers Center which should be hidden is the shiny building, btw) The math of superior mirages. (Homework study question: why does the top of Rogers Center appear inverted?) I don't see any mirage inversion.
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Post by lennybusker on Jan 14, 2019 20:02:12 GMT
I read a lot of the Metabunk forum, I love Mick West's easy walkthroughs of all of his observations and experiments. They even have one thread with the Rogers Center video post by TF, lol.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 14, 2019 20:31:26 GMT
I read a lot of the Metabunk forum, I love Mick West's easy walkthroughs of all of his observations and experiments. They even have one thread with the Rogers Center video post by TF, lol. Can you link this Mick West on Rogers Center?
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 14, 2019 21:16:07 GMT
Must say, I'm really proud you and lennybusker have taken such an interest in flat Earth. Thanks for sharing that Conspiracy Catz video, really enjoyed it. Our boy Ranty has been sharing a lot on his dealings with Conspiracy Catz.
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Post by lennybusker on Jan 14, 2019 21:35:06 GMT
Oh don't get it twisted, I have zero interest in the nonsensical, objectively untrue claims of a flat earth. I am interested in the psychology of those who do believe it though.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 14, 2019 22:25:04 GMT
Oh don't get it twisted, I have zero interest in the nonsensical, objectively untrue claims of a flat earth. I am interested in the psychology of those who do believe it though. So what's your profile on me so far?
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