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Post by Sylvius the Mad on Jan 18, 2019 20:05:03 GMT
It doesn't need to be China. Just ANYTHING beyond the horizon. You can test your vanishing point claim. You don't. Looking out from a hill overlooking flat land would work. I grew up in Saskatchewan. I am very familiar with the horizon. Look, I've debunked your China assertion you had no evidence for and yet continue to obfuscate with nothing to back your assertions. I didn't make a claim. I asked a question. I proposed a test. You won't run it. You refuse to examine actual testable evidence. Why did you ever use that hallway analogy given how obviously and immediately refutable it is?
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 18, 2019 20:51:18 GMT
Look, I've debunked your China assertion you had no evidence for and yet continue to obfuscate with nothing to back your assertions. I didn't make a claim. I asked a question. I proposed a test. You won't run it. You refuse to examine actual testable evidence. Why did you ever use that hallway analogy given how obviously and immediately refutable it is? Why did you make that China analogy given how obviously and immediately refutable it is?
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Post by 『Sky-High Fly-Guy』 on Jan 18, 2019 21:03:46 GMT
mods why isn't this thread locked already? Of course you'd advocate for the silencing of TF's individual truth, its a common trope among globeheads smh
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 18, 2019 21:05:09 GMT
mods why isn't this thread locked already? Of course you'd advocate for the silencing of TF's individual truth, its a common trope among globeheads smh Let us be cool, he has a right to his free speech too.
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Post by lennybusker on Jan 18, 2019 22:30:19 GMT
Terminator Force , why is every 2D map projection of the Earth incorrect in some way?
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 18, 2019 22:46:03 GMT
Terminator Force , why is every 2D map projection of the Earth incorrect in some way? How can one prove any map correct?
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Post by lennybusker on Jan 18, 2019 23:52:27 GMT
Terminator Force , why is every 2D map projection of the Earth incorrect in some way? How can one prove any map correct? Ah but that's just you doing your fake philosophical skeptic schtick again in order to not be pinned down to stating something that can be definitively true or false. Don't be coy.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 19, 2019 0:42:01 GMT
How can one prove any map correct? Ah but that's just you doing your fake philosophical skeptic schtick again in order to not be pinned down to stating something that can be definitively true or false. Don't be coy. Well you're free to present whatever discovery you have come across, though won't be able to contribute much myself outside all navigation maps have been 2D for centuries and everyone got by fine.
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Post by Ruliya on Jan 19, 2019 1:13:13 GMT
I didn't make a claim. I asked a question. I proposed a test. You won't run it. You refuse to examine actual testable evidence. Why did you ever use that hallway analogy given how obviously and immediately refutable it is? Why did you make that China analogy given how obviously and immediately refutable it is? The irony is you're easy to see through while constantly obfuscating. Tho for funsies let's look at it again. Coz there's something you keep not bringing up. China may not be visible even with a telescope, from certain places, Hawaii and Japan could possibly get in the way when looking from America. But what about Mount Everest? The highest point on the planet. Surely that mountain and it's range, and most large mountain ranges should be viewable. With telescopes Mt Everest should then be visible from pretty much any place on Earth, right? Coz it's the highest point on the planet. So why isn't it? And you can't say foreground objects would obscure it, it's too tall. Unless you're purposely standing in front of something. So why can't I see Everest with a telescope? I can see the moon coz it's a large object and there's an unbroken line of sight between me and it. So surely I should be able to see Everest on a flat Earth, at least the top half of it anyway.
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Post by lennybusker on Jan 19, 2019 1:26:43 GMT
Ah but that's just you doing your fake philosophical skeptic schtick again in order to not be pinned down to stating something that can be definitively true or false. Don't be coy. Well you're free to present whatever discovery you have come across, though won't be able to contribute much myself outside all navigation maps have been 2D for centuries and everyone got by fine. Hmm, were you homeschooled by any chance? Typically the inaccuracy of map projections is covered by grade 6 or so. Here's a helpful resource. kidsgeo.com/geography-for-kids/mercator-and-other-projections/
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Post by Ruliya on Jan 19, 2019 1:36:35 GMT
Well you're free to present whatever discovery you have come across, though won't be able to contribute much myself outside all navigation maps have been 2D for centuries and everyone got by fine. Hmm, were you homeschooled by any chance? Typically the inaccuracy of map projections is covered by grade 6 or so. Here's a helpful resource. kidsgeo.com/geography-for-kids/mercator-and-other-projections/ Is it not common knowledge that the typical mercator map was done for navigational purposes originally, which is why certainly areas are inflated? I always like the Gall-Peters Projection map, which this clip from the West Wing adequately, for the time, demonstrates.
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Post by GoldenGail3 on Jan 19, 2019 1:37:14 GMT
mods why isn't this thread locked already? I don't think it's a good idea for the mods to close threads for "stupidity." It can only end badly.Besides, anyone choosing to punish themselves by arguing flat earth is already facing the consequences of their decision. Anything else would be beating a dead horse. They already locked a thread for 'offending people' and besides this is a spam thread tbh.
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Post by GoldenGail3 on Jan 19, 2019 1:38:14 GMT
mods why isn't this thread locked already? Of course you'd advocate for the silencing of TF's individual truth, its a common trope among globeheads smh You mean fake lies, because this is fake as fuck science and should be treated as such.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 19, 2019 1:38:38 GMT
Why did you make that China analogy given how obviously and immediately refutable it is? The irony is you're easy to see through while constantly obfuscating. Tho for funsies let's look at it again. Coz there's something you keep not bringing up. China may not be visible even with a telescope, from certain places, Hawaii and Japan could possibly get in the way when looking from America. But what about Mount Everest? The highest point on the planet. Surely that mountain and it's range, and most large mountain ranges should be viewable. With telescopes Mt Everest should then be visible from pretty much any place on Earth, right? Coz it's the highest point on the planet. So why isn't it? And you can't say foreground objects would obscure it, it's too tall. Unless you're purposely standing in front of something. So why can't I see Everest with a telescope? I can see the moon coz it's a large object and there's an unbroken line of sight between me and it. So surely I should be able to see Everest on a flat Earth, at least the top half of it anyway. First, mount Everest at 5 miles high being view-able from anywhere on the Earth is not possible given the angular size reduction with distance calculations. Second, infrared modified 4k zoom cameras tell another tale; Mountains the were previously hidden behind atmosphere, the infrared cuts right through revealing them to right there all along. (Video is timestamped to point of this comparison)
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 19, 2019 1:40:21 GMT
Well you're free to present whatever discovery you have come across, though won't be able to contribute much myself outside all navigation maps have been 2D for centuries and everyone got by fine. Hmm, were you homeschooled by any chance? Typically the inaccuracy of map projections is covered by grade 6 or so. Here's a helpful resource. kidsgeo.com/geography-for-kids/mercator-and-other-projections/ Education or indoctrination? That is the question.
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Post by lennybusker on Jan 19, 2019 1:51:26 GMT
Education or indoctrination? That is the question. So are you claiming that there is a 2-dimensional map that is accurate for distance, area, and direction?
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Post by Ruliya on Jan 19, 2019 1:52:58 GMT
The irony is you're easy to see through while constantly obfuscating. Tho for funsies let's look at it again. Coz there's something you keep not bringing up. China may not be visible even with a telescope, from certain places, Hawaii and Japan could possibly get in the way when looking from America. But what about Mount Everest? The highest point on the planet. Surely that mountain and it's range, and most large mountain ranges should be viewable. With telescopes Mt Everest should then be visible from pretty much any place on Earth, right? Coz it's the highest point on the planet. So why isn't it? And you can't say foreground objects would obscure it, it's too tall. Unless you're purposely standing in front of something. So why can't I see Everest with a telescope? I can see the moon coz it's a large object and there's an unbroken line of sight between me and it. So surely I should be able to see Everest on a flat Earth, at least the top half of it anyway. First, mount Everest at 5 miles high being view-able from anywhere on the Earth is not possible given the angular size reduction with distance calculations. Second, infrared modified 4k zoom cameras tell another tale; Mountains the were previously hidden behind atmosphere, the infrared cuts right through revealing them to right there all along. (Video is timestamped to point of this comparison) First Everest is just shy of 5.5miles. And no, with a telescope I should be able to see Everest plain as day. Afterall with powerful enough telescopes we can see heavenly bodies such as the moon in complete clarity (that can also be seen with the naked eye) plus Mars, Jupiter, Saturn. Unless Mountains, like planets, don't exist to flat earth people? xD I can see the moon. On a flat surface, I should be able to see Everest with the right devices. Not sure what the video is supposed to prove, I can see the mountain in the normal daylight video, it's a slightly darker patch of sky, i.e the silhouette of My Baldy, but it's there within the horizon. Plus the infra red thing is a completely different angle and position and zoomed in, so it's not true science. Repeat it in infra red from the same position as the first video. But all you have is falsified stuff from your FE buddies. Yet more youtube. But keep being transparent while attempting to obfuscate I suppose xD
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 19, 2019 2:03:08 GMT
Education or indoctrination? That is the question. So are you claiming that there is a 2-dimensional map that is accurate for distance, area, and direction? Already stated I can't offer much input on this matter, was just interested in what you had to share. And for that I thank you.
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Post by lennybusker on Jan 19, 2019 2:03:16 GMT
Is it not common knowledge that the typical mercator map was done for navigational purposes originally, which is why certainly areas are inflated? I always like the Gall-Peters Projection map, which this clip from the West Wing adequately, for the time, demonstrates. Yup! It was a great navigation tool because it's a conformal projection, so it plots straight bearing courses as straight lines. Much easier to plot a constant bearing course with something simple like a ruler. But it's terrible at being equal-area, which is why Greenland looks as big as Africa (when it's 1/15th the size.) Here's a great tool showing how distorted the Mercator can be. Search a country and then drag the colored shape to other places! thetruesize.com/
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Post by lennybusker on Jan 19, 2019 2:04:47 GMT
So are you claiming that there is a 2-dimensional map that is accurate for distance, area, and direction? Already stated I can't offer much input on this matter, was just interested in what you had to share. And for that I thank you. Well I know how much you love Youtube videos, what are your thoughts on this?
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 19, 2019 2:05:10 GMT
First, mount Everest at 5 miles high being view-able from anywhere on the Earth is not possible given the angular size reduction with distance calculations. Second, infrared modified 4k zoom cameras tell another tale; Mountains the were previously hidden behind atmosphere, the infrared cuts right through revealing them to right there all along. (Video is timestamped to point of this comparison) First Everest is just shy of 5.5miles. And no, with a telescope I should be able to see Everest plain as day. Afterall with powerful enough telescopes we can see heavenly bodies such as the moon in complete clarity (that can also be seen with the naked eye) plus Mars, Jupiter, Saturn. Unless Mountains, like planets, don't exist to flat earth people? xD I can see the moon. On a flat surface, I should be able to see Everest with the right devices. Not sure what the video is supposed to prove, I can see the mountain in the normal daylight video, it's a slightly darker patch of sky, i.e the silhouette of My Baldy, but it's there within the horizon. Plus the infra red thing is a completely different angle and position and zoomed in, so it's not true science. Repeat it in infra red from the same position as the first video. But all you have is falsified stuff from your FE buddies. Yet more youtube. But keep being transparent while attempting to obfuscate I suppose xD And how you going to go about backing any of your assertions? Like size and distance to Moon, Mars, etc.
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Post by Ruliya on Jan 19, 2019 2:13:49 GMT
First Everest is just shy of 5.5miles. And no, with a telescope I should be able to see Everest plain as day. Afterall with powerful enough telescopes we can see heavenly bodies such as the moon in complete clarity (that can also be seen with the naked eye) plus Mars, Jupiter, Saturn. Unless Mountains, like planets, don't exist to flat earth people? xD I can see the moon. On a flat surface, I should be able to see Everest with the right devices. Not sure what the video is supposed to prove, I can see the mountain in the normal daylight video, it's a slightly darker patch of sky, i.e the silhouette of My Baldy, but it's there within the horizon. Plus the infra red thing is a completely different angle and position and zoomed in, so it's not true science. Repeat it in infra red from the same position as the first video. But all you have is falsified stuff from your FE buddies. Yet more youtube. But keep being transparent while attempting to obfuscate I suppose xD And how you going to go about backing any of your assertions? Like size and distance to Moon, Mars, etc. To pull a leaf out of your book, I'll back up my assertions as soon as you back up yours You're not very good at backing up your own assertions, sadly.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 19, 2019 2:16:13 GMT
Already stated I can't offer much input on this matter, was just interested in what you had to share. And for that I thank you. Well I know how much you love Youtube videos, what are your thoughts on this? Well, was already aware of the Mercator and Gall Peters projections.
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Post by Terminator Force on Jan 19, 2019 2:20:05 GMT
And how you going to go about backing any of your assertions? Like size and distance to Moon, Mars, etc. To pull a leaf out of your book, I'll back up my assertions as soon as you back up yours You're not very good at backing up your own assertions, sadly. Have already laid out my argument, now it's your turn to properly rebuttal them by backing up your claims.
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Post by Ruliya on Jan 19, 2019 2:20:44 GMT
Well I know how much you love Youtube videos, what are your thoughts on this? Well, was already aware of the Mercator and Gall Peters projections. What's the Flat Earth projection map, mind showing us that please?
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