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Post by SofaJockey on Dec 1, 2018 12:53:02 GMT
QA testing can be extremely un-fun. Those who just want to play early will be met by surprises. "a QA tester walks into a bar, orders a beer. Also orders 0 beers, 999999 beers, -1 beers, a reeb and an aardvark."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 14:38:44 GMT
Yeah, but it's India Pale Aardvark … You can't get that just anywhere.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Dec 1, 2018 17:44:04 GMT
QA testing can be extremely un-fun. Those who just want to play early will be met by surprises. "a QA tester walks into a bar, orders a beer. Also orders 0 beers, 999999 beers, -1 beers, a reeb and an aardvark." This is accurate
I signed up, doubt I'll get in. heh
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Post by smilesja on Dec 1, 2018 17:50:59 GMT
QA testing can be extremely un-fun. Those who just want to play early will be met by surprises. "a QA tester walks into a bar, orders a beer. Also orders 0 beers, 999999 beers, -1 beers, a reeb and an aardvark." This is accurate
I signed up, doubt I'll get in. heh
Yeah! Who would want to listen to a grumpy old man?
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Post by Space Cowboy on Dec 1, 2018 17:52:53 GMT
This is accurate
I signed up, doubt I'll get in. heh
Yeah! Who would want to listen to a grumpy old man? I know right?
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Post by Beerfish on Dec 1, 2018 17:58:14 GMT
Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.
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Post by SofaJockey on Dec 1, 2018 18:21:43 GMT
Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. Who's fooled you, Beerfish?
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Post by smilesja on Dec 1, 2018 18:31:06 GMT
Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Dec 1, 2018 18:57:36 GMT
Alpha is not the time for skepticism and doubt, and all the concomitant fallout that comes from giving doubters early access. You're welcome to your view, but you appear to be requiring a much higher standard of alpha testers than BioWare is itself asking for. I know, more's the pity. Again, I'm hoping they are playing a deeper game, but there's the possibility they just don't know how to run an online MP early access/testing program. Exactly my point. If the percentage turns out to be very small, like 1 out of 100, and that 1 is some asshat that does nothing but shit all over the game on Reddit and Neogaf based on glitches in the alpha build, I'm gonna throw up my hands in despair. I'm not saying OfficerDonNZ is going to do that, but Bioware's handling of the limited alpha certainly opens the door to that risk. .
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Dec 1, 2018 19:01:20 GMT
No you won’t! It’s a limited alpha, you are much more likely to form an incorrect opinion from the problems an alpha will certainly have. Not to mention that you are taking a slot away from someone who wants to help test the game for a successful launch, as in already decided to support the game. Agree...though I'm not signing up because I don't want to end up turned off on a game I intend to play. Restrictions, inevitable bugs, and balancing issues will only serve to frustrate me...I'd rather not subject myself to that. I mentioned this in the Twitter thread, but this is exactly what happened to me testing BCBF2 and BF3 in early access beta testing. In one case, bugs gave me a more negative attitude towards the full release, and in the other, the map and mode used for testing was better than what got released -- they dumbed it down due to complaints from a bunch of whiners who wanted things to be more like earlier games (BF2) -- so for me the final release ended up being a disappointment. Now I don't sign up for early access or testing any longer.
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Post by Beerfish on Dec 1, 2018 19:04:42 GMT
Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. Who's fooled you, Beerfish ? The last time BioWare convinced me and thousands of others to go through the process of registering for a beta or alpha or whatever and then saying' Nahhhhh we guess we won't have it after all. meamp i believe.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 19:10:08 GMT
That's OK Beerfish , just means more India Pale Aardvark for me.
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Post by melbella on Dec 1, 2018 19:22:59 GMT
some asshat that does nothing but shit all over the game on Reddit and Neogaf based on glitches in the alpha build Since doing that would be a violation of the non-disclosure agreement required to even sign up.....probably not going to happen?
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Post by SofaJockey on Dec 1, 2018 20:35:31 GMT
The last time BioWare convinced me and thousands of others to go through the process of registering for a beta or alpha or whatever and then saying' Nahhhhh we guess we won't have it after all. meamp i believe. Ah yes. Some people here participated in the MEA closed alpha, but yes, the beta was canned.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Dec 1, 2018 21:18:58 GMT
some asshat that does nothing but shit all over the game on Reddit and Neogaf based on glitches in the alpha build Since doing that would be a violation of the non-disclosure agreement required to even sign up.....probably not going to happen? That's better than nothing, but given that Reddit, Neogaf, etc., are anonymous (just create a new email account), it's fundamentally unenforceable. Plus with Jason Schreier and his ilk soliciting leaks and gossip, pretty likely it's going to happen.
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Post by nanotm on Dec 1, 2018 22:25:59 GMT
who cares what people say about it, if they let a lot of people in on an alpha test to stress the servers and such chances are there going to be going for quantity over quality, besides a lot of bugs only show up when theres a higher load, dai's mp seemed to work fine during the last few days of beta play and then on live day it bugged out massively, from the benign mobs failed to spawn in runs to all kinds of funky glitches showed up all becasue they didnt load test the servers for their new game engine (it didnt scale well, odd considering its the same problem MEAmp had to start off with and there both on the same game engine as BF and SW which didnt have the same level of problems)
naw for me if i'm allowed access this will be more about does it flick my switch, I mean the vids ive seen so far from the dev team seem ok but I cant gauge my level of engagement from a video of someone else playing, if its got that spark for me then i'm likely to buy the game after playing it if it doesnt then I wont pre order (which will be the first beware game I didnt pre order in more than a decade)
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Post by melbella on Dec 1, 2018 22:52:00 GMT
I cant gauge my level of engagement from a video of someone else playing Exactly. Even the best game ever gives me a "Bored now!" vibe if I'm only watching, especially via online. It's better if watching while at the same computer as whomever is playing but I still get twitchy fingers! Cutscenes while I'm playing are different - the first time at least - since that is still part of my gameplay. But if I happen to miss or skip bits on later PTs it's far from the end of the world.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Dec 2, 2018 18:04:04 GMT
who cares what people say about it, if they let a lot of people in on an alpha test to stress the servers and such chances are there going to be going for quantity over quality, besides a lot of bugs only show up when theres a higher load, dai's mp seemed to work fine during the last few days of beta play and then on live day it bugged out massively, from the benign mobs failed to spawn in runs to all kinds of funky glitches showed up all becasue they didnt load test the servers for their new game engine (it didnt scale well, odd considering its the same problem MEAmp had to start off with and there both on the same game engine as BF and SW which didnt have the same level of problems) naw for me if i'm allowed access this will be more about does it flick my switch, I mean the vids ive seen so far from the dev team seem ok but I cant gauge my level of engagement from a video of someone else playing, if its got that spark for me then i'm likely to buy the game after playing it if it doesnt then I wont pre order (which will be the first beware game I didnt pre order in more than a decade) So, obviously, Bioware cares what people say about it, or else why try to do a "limited" alpha "on the down low?" "Limited" kind of argues against quantity over quality. Not that I disagree that quantity to test higher load is necessary. It just doesn't seem to be what they are after, based on how they are running it. I wasn't aware of the DAIMP history, but hopefully they've learned from that mistake? I get that kicking the tires is the best way to really understand if you like a game or not, but I don't think that test builds are the best way to do that. The pre-order demo is probably the better vehicle, provided you can get a refund after trying the demo.
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Post by nanotm on Dec 3, 2018 3:03:11 GMT
who cares what people say about it, if they let a lot of people in on an alpha test to stress the servers and such chances are there going to be going for quantity over quality, besides a lot of bugs only show up when theres a higher load, dai's mp seemed to work fine during the last few days of beta play and then on live day it bugged out massively, from the benign mobs failed to spawn in runs to all kinds of funky glitches showed up all becasue they didnt load test the servers for their new game engine (it didnt scale well, odd considering its the same problem MEAmp had to start off with and there both on the same game engine as BF and SW which didnt have the same level of problems) naw for me if i'm allowed access this will be more about does it flick my switch, I mean the vids ive seen so far from the dev team seem ok but I cant gauge my level of engagement from a video of someone else playing, if its got that spark for me then i'm likely to buy the game after playing it if it doesnt then I wont pre order (which will be the first beware game I didnt pre order in more than a decade) So, obviously, Bioware cares what people say about it, or else why try to do a "limited" alpha "on the down low?" "Limited" kind of argues against quantity over quality. Not that I disagree that quantity to test higher load is necessary. It just doesn't seem to be what they are after, based on how they are running it. I wasn't aware of the DAIMP history, but hopefully they've learned from that mistake? I get that kicking the tires is the best way to really understand if you like a game or not, but I don't think that test builds are the best way to do that. The pre-order demo is probably the better vehicle, provided you can get a refund after trying the demo. not really, ive wasted money before because the "pre release" build looked promising only for the game the get cancelled or for the devs to cut out all the content that appealed to me by the time they finally got round to making it a release version, hell when I played a certain demo game that got sent out in a magazine as a freebee (more than a decade ago) I ordered the game only for it to be totally different other times ive bought games only for the studio to collapse and yank the servers a few months later (TR was a major product and it did this, no refunds either despite the game cost) so getting access to something later in the cycle doesnt mean anything, getting access to it earlier in the cycle though that can highlight the underlying mechanics of the game and let you understand the button mashing pace and indicate if there might be server issues (well its EA so theres bound to be a few resource management issues)
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Post by bshep on Dec 3, 2018 3:42:01 GMT
Just hope i am choosen, want to really take a look at the game before deciding to buy or not.
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Post by Dekibra on Dec 3, 2018 12:19:29 GMT
Just hope i am choosen, want to really take a look at the game before deciding to buy or not.
that was indeed my main motivation to sign up - though I doubt I'll get in (wrong country, wrong target group )
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Post by Heimdall on Dec 3, 2018 13:37:16 GMT
The last day for alpha signup is today, right? So we should be finding out if we got in today or tomorrow.
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Post by SofaJockey on Dec 3, 2018 15:11:22 GMT
The last day for alpha signup is today, right? So we should be finding out if we got in today or tomorrow. Indeed, though given the 'publicity' I'm expecting a very low chance.
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Post by Beerfish on Dec 3, 2018 17:12:09 GMT
To those in the alpha PLEASE, please, please, be brutal and frank and mention things that are not working right or are not fun game design wise and the things that are fun. I know this sounds obvious but at times people get the early access and get caught up in the fun of the game and don't want to be critical of things. (Especially if the game has areas of poor performance or crashes.)
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Post by Heimdall on Dec 3, 2018 18:14:12 GMT
Also remember that you aren’t supposed to discuss your alpha experience with the public.
The purpose here is to get the devs testing feedback before the official release. The public is just going to treat any information as if it were the final release, which is unfair.
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