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Post by vertigomez on Jan 7, 2019 22:38:45 GMT
Let's not forget some of the unintentional side-effects of the mods, like Cullen planting his face in the bosom of a qunari lady . Or Varric... 😂
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Post by Lady Artifice on Jan 7, 2019 22:39:38 GMT
Lady Artifice hm, I see...thank you for this as I said in a different post, I didn't mean for it to be insulting I was just curious about people's opinions and worded it the wrong way I didn't think you did and if I came off as scolding, I didn't mean to. That's just my rambling, circular thought on the question.
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Post by vertigomez on Jan 7, 2019 22:40:27 GMT
Eeeeww, sorry to hear these rumors about ACO. That's... disappointing.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Jan 7, 2019 22:46:11 GMT
Lady Artifice hm, I see...thank you for this as I said in a different post, I didn't mean for it to be insulting I was just curious about people's opinions and worded it the wrong way I didn't think you did and if I came off as scolding, I didn't mean to. That's just my rambling, circular thought on the question. psh, you should hear me rambling...no wait, you don't want to just ask my friend...sometimes he has to cut me of just so I can catch my breath
I tend to get really hyped about certain things last, Saturday I talked his ear of about the new teaser for DA4, thankfully he let me talk (he stopped being interested in Dragon age a few years back (the nerve! ) my general topic of rambling is in-game lore, I'm a sucker for lore sometimes I wish I could forget the games just so I can experience them again for the first time...sadly my memory is to good for that
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Post by Rouccoco on Jan 7, 2019 22:48:32 GMT
I'm hoping the wording allows for something different (a lot of Phoibe's dialogue was about her and Markos being Alexios' family), or that it is optional. Odyssey is one of the few things I've been really enjoying lately, and I won't let Ubi ruin that... I'm already ignoring their bs canon choices that I hope they'll never reference should I play a future AC (and I don't mean Kassandra being the misthios).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 22:49:57 GMT
If that dlc is confirmed to do that...well I'll be glad I didn't get the season pass, but I will be joining the battle field on twitter for those that are being f'd over by them. Anyway.... Lady Artifice Thank you for that lovely post! It is always lovely to see other people get it. It's exhausting having the world assume you are attracted to the opposite gender and for it to not only be a subtle thing in games-but like aggressively inserted as Peebee in MEA, and Roxeanne in Assassin's creed Odyssey. It's exhausting. It has also made me very moody at times.
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Post by TabithaTH on Jan 7, 2019 23:02:11 GMT
Let's not forget some of the unintentional side-effects of the mods, like Cullen planting his face in the bosom of a qunari lady . Or Varric... 😂 OMG, that is hilarious . I did not even know such a mod existed.
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Post by sandalisthemaker on Jan 8, 2019 0:23:14 GMT
One thing that I'd like for the animators to watch out for are the camera angles for the romance scenes, (cutscenes in general, really) when it comes to dwarf and qunari PCs. Also, the bizarre changes in height of the dwarf and qunari PC compared to the companions in cutscenes. This was really apparent in the intro with my dwarf Inquisitor being led through the makeshift camp outside of Haven. One second he was normal height, and the next he was just as tall as Cassandra, then back to normal height.
Also, in the Dorian romance, my dwarf Inquisitor was *taller* than Dorian at one point. It looked like Dorian went up on his tip toes for a second to kiss the Inquisitor, then he was back to being taller again.
I like to headcanon that my dwarf Inquisitor carried a small stool around with him as he walked around Skyhold. From time to time he'd hop on the stool when interacting with his companions.
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Post by Rouccoco on Jan 8, 2019 0:29:51 GMT
Also Lady Artifice aside from that spoiler tag, which is purely decorative (keep it ), your post is absolutely on point! Kinda on subject, the game that put you in a straight relationship that didn't really feel warranted that kinda stayed with me the most was Dishonored. Corvo being a father figure to Emily didn't require him being romantically involved with her mother. It felt unnecessary. I didn't expect Corvo to be gay or anything, but it really took me out of the experience. It's great that, clumsy as it often is, there are actual options now, as opposed to me replaying Silent Hill Homecoming for the nth time, because Alex's story is obviously about him being gay, it's obvious, why only me and a few other people see it. Also, your Swtor description reminds me of Jade Empire. Sky's gay romance is so hidden you have to be very specific to trigger it, otherwise look at those two ladies who totally want you...
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Post by vertigomez on Jan 8, 2019 0:52:05 GMT
One thing that I'd like for the animators to watch out for are the camera angles for the romance scenes, (cutscenes in general, really) when it comes to dwarf and qunari PCs. Also, the bizarre changes in height of the dwarf and qunari PC compared to the companions in cutscenes. This was really apparent in the intro with my dwarf Inquisitor being led through the makeshift camp outside of Haven. One second he was normal height, and the next he was just as tall as Cassandra, then back to normal height. Also, in the Dorian romance, my dwarf Inquisitor was *taller* than Dorian at one point. It looked like Dorian went up on his tip toes for a second to kiss the Inquisitor, then he was back to being taller again. I like to headcanon that my dwarf Inquisitor carried a small stool around with him as he walked around Skyhold. From time to time he'd hop on the stool when interacting with his companions. I appreciated that Leliana kneeled to kiss a dwarf Warden. That made so much more sense than floating dwarves. Blackwall's romance was the woooorst for this, because the camera literally pans from you kissing (face-to-face) to both of your feet on the ground.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Jan 8, 2019 1:25:48 GMT
I guess in Ancient Greece, vaginas, like the ancient monster Charybdis, took the form of whirlpools that consume anyone who tries to pass by.
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Post by heather_mason_sh3 on Jan 8, 2019 3:08:43 GMT
It's great that, clumsy as it often is, there are actual options now, as opposed to me replaying Silent Hill Homecoming for the nth time, because Alex's story is obviously about him being gay, it's obvious, why only me and a few other people see it. I can't tell if this is sarcastic or not, but one of the game's producers Tom Hulett (who worked on several Silent Hill games) was pretty supportive that people can find strength in Alex being a gay man. It was nice to see that, as I liked to see Alex as a gay man after initially stumbling onto that. I love Homecoming anyway regardless of whether he's gay or straight...but yes it is nice to see actual representation now despite not always being perfect.
As for that Assassin's Creed Odyssey spoiler...I haven't actually played the game in quite some time now but I will be very disappointed if it ends up being true...it would just be so bad of them to do that after how they marketed their LGBT content...and I bought the most expensive edition because I wanted gay Alexios so if he's forced into being straight I would regret ever buying the game and wouldn't support them again.
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Post by Joey on Jan 8, 2019 10:09:17 GMT
yay for good old gif spam
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Post by Rouccoco on Jan 8, 2019 13:37:39 GMT
It's great that, clumsy as it often is, there are actual options now, as opposed to me replaying Silent Hill Homecoming for the nth time, because Alex's story is obviously about him being gay, it's obvious, why only me and a few other people see it. I can't tell if this is sarcastic or not, but one of the game's producers Tom Hulett (who worked on several Silent Hill games) was pretty supportive that people can find strength in Alex being a gay man. It was nice to see that, as I liked to see Alex as a gay man after initially stumbling onto that. I love Homecoming anyway regardless of whether he's gay or straight...but yes it is nice to see actual representation now despite not always being perfect.
As for that Assassin's Creed Odyssey spoiler...I haven't actually played the game in quite some time now but I will be very disappointed if it ends up being true...it would just be so bad of them to do that after how they marketed their LGBT content...and I bought the most expensive edition because I wanted gay Alexios so if he's forced into being straight I would regret ever buying the game and wouldn't support them again.
Seriously. I didn't see the producer supporting it, just kinda pieced some stuff together and it fit. Most of the SH games have a straightforward interpretation (the city is real), and a psychological one (the city and events are a manifestation of the protagonist's psychological distress). Adding Alex's parents rejecting and isolating him, the lobotomy clues, the hints about Alex being clueless about military stuff, the many ways the female form is nightmare fuel for him. I pieced my interpretation together. Any other interpretation doesn't make sense to me now. And seeing as there are around 5 people that liked the game, there's no one to argue with me If the DLC turns out as bad as it seems, I'll just leave that whole quest and skip to Atlantis. Alexios is too busy being gay with Lykaon to have time for this crap.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Jan 8, 2019 13:55:06 GMT
Soldier 76 is canonically gay, thus cancelling out the ACO DLC rumours, and retroactively making today perfectly ordinary in terms of LGBT news and/or progress.
Good work everyone, we did it.
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Post by cankiie on Jan 8, 2019 14:41:49 GMT
Goddamnit. Now Overwatch is going to be revived for a whole other reason. I had hoped to see that lootbox riddled piece of shit product die out, it was so close too I had hoped Assassin's Creed would die out too, goddamn microtransactions in single player games CDPR are the only ones with any dignity left, even Bethesda turned out to be far worse than any of the companies with straight up deception and illegal practises. ... CDPR better treat their goddamn developers right! I don't want to hear about the rumours being true. With that said. If I am going to romance a lootbox in DA4, then forget it!
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Post by pessimistpanda on Jan 8, 2019 15:08:07 GMT
Microtransactions sure are a convenient reason to want to see games with LGBT characters go away.
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Post by cankiie on Jan 8, 2019 15:25:43 GMT
Microtransactions sure are a convenient reason to want to see games with LGBT characters go away. I will hate any games with lootboxes in them and with microtransactions in their single-player stories with or without LGBT character. I hated Overwatch even before Tracer was announced to be gay, I hated Shadow of War. In my eyes, microtransactions is a far worse plight than any kind of pandering to a militant group of minorities. Microtransactions is the 100% cause of a game being downgraded, destroyed in order to sell said microtransactions, even if people try to lie and say: "It is totally optional" yeah right. Even if they were optional they were put in to cater to rich investors for the sweet moneyz, and that leads to problems in the future, because investors wants to see growth and how the heck do you see a continued growth when you already put in "optional" extra buys and your game is only getting fewer players because of said microtransactions? That is correct, you make the game worse in order to intensify the need to buy more microtransactions. If game developers and/or publishers start catering solely to invenstors and not the gamers, the focus will be less on how to make an entertaining game and more how to make a game that maximize their profits. It is simple business. CDPR (and to an extend Nintendo) are the only ones, so far, who have shown to atleast have the balls to stand up against investors and tell them: "The only way to see proper growth, is to consistently release entertaining games" and that is worthy of respect. With all that said, since you so obviously want to try and hack me down on that. I am against obvious pandering which dilutes a story, I am not against LGTB characters Even if you may think it is the same thing for whatever your reasons, that is YOUR fault, not mine.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Jan 8, 2019 15:36:41 GMT
Blergh CDPR exploit their workers and are lgbtqphobic as fuck. Totally terrified about what are they gonna do with their romances in C2077, I hope they are great though. Lol pandering word again. I guess when you dont have any kind of militant group of minorities that's not called pandering to dudebros lmao
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Post by SofaJockey on Jan 8, 2019 15:37:37 GMT
Goddamnit. Now Overwatch is going to be revived for a whole other reason. I had hoped to see that lootbox riddled piece of shit product die out, it was so close too I had hoped Assassin's Creed would die out too, goddamn microtransactions in single player games CDPR are the only ones with any dignity left, even Bethesda turned out to be far worse than any of the companies with straight up deception and illegal practises. ... CDPR better treat their goddamn developers right! I don't want to hear about the rumours being true. With that said. If I am going to romance a lootbox in DA4, then forget it! Friendly suggestion. Erm, can we stick to one game series at a time, please? Romance in Dragon Age can get complicated enough without broadening the discussion to resolve romance in CDPR, Bethesda, Overwatch and AC at least in one post. Thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 16:03:17 GMT
Speaking of BioWare Romances. Can we all agree that we would like to see them stop with the kisses being shown from the back of the players head-thus not something anything even close to a kiss actually happening on screen? I mean the back of Jaal's head is a work of art no doubt, but I want to see the lips smooshing. I'm glad we got that in the steamest bit of the lake scene, but so many romances have those angles that show nothing at all in kisses.
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Post by arvaarad on Jan 8, 2019 16:06:00 GMT
Goddamnit. Now Overwatch is going to be revived for a whole other reason. I had hoped to see that lootbox riddled piece of shit product die out, it was so close too I had hoped Assassin's Creed would die out too, goddamn microtransactions in single player games CDPR are the only ones with any dignity left, even Bethesda turned out to be far worse than any of the companies with straight up deception and illegal practises. ... CDPR better treat their goddamn developers right! I don't want to hear about the rumours being true. With that said. If I am going to romance a lootbox in DA4, then forget it! Friendly suggestion. Erm, can we stick to one game series at a time, please? Romance in Dragon Age can get complicated enough without broadening the discussion to resolve romance in CDPR, Bethesda, Overwatch and AC at least in one post. Thank you. Blessed are the peacekeepers, the champions of the just.
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