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Post by Polka Dot on Feb 20, 2019 3:49:47 GMT
I'm taking my time going through this thread, really enjoying a lot of the posts here. Also, apparently I need to take a look at DOS2.  I admit that I've not yet finished Josie's romance, but I suspect the only Inky she would consider officially marrying would be a non-mage male human noble. I also suspect that may have been one of the reasons why BioWare chose not to include that option for her. My impression is that she is ultra-dedicated to her family and doing everything she can to restore their status. As the eldest of her generation, I would expect her to be willing to accept her obligation to produce heirs that would uplift the family. Whether we like it or not, that is the reality of the nobility in Thedas. Mind you, that doesn't mean she can't have a side piece, as many nobles do. In fact, since I'm romancing her with a female, I have my own little fantasy headcanon about what I'd like their future to be, but it doesn't ignore what I view as being the more likely character expression for her. That's not the reason why we couldn't. When asked about it, her writer said that Josephine wouldn't want to elope like Cullen and Sera do but instead would want her family to be at the ceremony. Plus she'd have plans to make it a lot nicer than the small ceremony we see. Also, you're wrong about her only wanting to marry a non-mage male human. Again, her writer said she would marry the Inquisitor regardless of race and sex because she loves them. Her romance quest is literally calling off an arranged marriage so you can be together. Plus you are the Inquisitor, so even if not a non-mage human male noble it's not like the status of her family will go down and if anything improve(we even hear a banter about this from a couple nobles in Val Royeaux). I appreciate the response. As I mentioned, I haven't finished the playthrough - perhaps I'll see things differently once I do. Or not. I usually try to view these things through the lens of the world these characters actually live in, and what you describe sounds like a fairy tale to me. Not that there's anything wrong with enjoying fairy tales, mind you.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 20, 2019 4:02:06 GMT
That's not the reason why we couldn't. When asked about it, her writer said that Josephine wouldn't want to elope like Cullen and Sera do but instead would want her family to be at the ceremony. Plus she'd have plans to make it a lot nicer than the small ceremony we see. Also, you're wrong about her only wanting to marry a non-mage male human. Again, her writer said she would marry the Inquisitor regardless of race and sex because she loves them. Her romance quest is literally calling off an arranged marriage so you can be together. Plus you are the Inquisitor, so even if not a non-mage human male noble it's not like the status of her family will go down and if anything improve(we even hear a banter about this from a couple nobles in Val Royeaux). I appreciate the response. As I mentioned, I haven't finished the playthrough - perhaps I'll see things differently once I do. Or not. I usually try to view these things through the lens of the world these characters actually live in, and what you describe sounds like a fairy tale to me. Not that there's anything wrong with enjoying fairy tales, mind you. Well, she's not called the Disney Princess of Dragon Age for nothing.  But it fits in the world. After all, we see Celene rule without ever getting married or having an heir, even being in an openly same sex relationship with Briala if they get back together. Anora can be ruling Ferelden without a spouse or heir. And Josephine has other siblings. The heir doesn't have to come from her. Even the real world had examples of this. So an exception, maybe, but definitely not out of place in this universe.
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Post by Polka Dot on Feb 20, 2019 4:24:15 GMT
I appreciate the response. As I mentioned, I haven't finished the playthrough - perhaps I'll see things differently once I do. Or not. I usually try to view these things through the lens of the world these characters actually live in, and what you describe sounds like a fairy tale to me. Not that there's anything wrong with enjoying fairy tales, mind you. Well, she's not called the Disney Princess of Dragon Age for nothing.  But it fits in the world. After all, we see Celene rule without ever getting married or having an heir, even being in an openly same sex relationship with Briala if they get back together. Anora can be ruling Ferelden without a spouse or heir. And Josephine has other siblings. The heir doesn't have to come from her. Even the real world had examples of this. So an exception, maybe, but definitely not out of place in this universe. Yeah, Ferelden's throne does concern me - or would if I didn't have it solved in my version of the world. Heh. Anora won't live forever, and it'll be interesting to see what happens next - assuming the series gets that far. (My Cousland warden sends brother Fergus a-courting. He could produce heirs on the side even if Anora can't, thus securing the throne. Couslands are kind of next in line, anyway, so I figure the power players of Ferelden would approve.) No idea what will happen in Orlais if Celene doesn't designate anyone to take her place, especially given the hijinks of the Orlesian nobility. But that's probably a topic for a different thread.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 20, 2019 4:34:57 GMT
Well, she's not called the Disney Princess of Dragon Age for nothing. But it fits in the world. After all, we see Celene rule without ever getting married or having an heir, even being in an openly same sex relationship with Briala if they get back together. Anora can be ruling Ferelden without a spouse or heir. And Josephine has other siblings. The heir doesn't have to come from her. Even the real world had examples of this. So an exception, maybe, but definitely not out of place in this universe. Yeah, Ferelden's throne does concern me - or would if I didn't have it solved in my version of the world. Heh. Anora won't live forever, and it'll be interesting to see what happens next - assuming the series gets that far. (My Cousland warden sends brother Fergus a-courting. He could produce heirs on the side even if Anora can't, thus securing the throne. Couslands are kind of next in line, anyway, so I figure the power players of Ferelden would approve.) No idea what will happen in Orlais if Celene doesn't designate anyone to take her place, especially given the hijinks of the Orlesian nobility. But that's probably a topic for a different thread. It's actually addressed in the lore. If a monarch dies without an heir, a new one is voted in by the nobility. So Orlais has the Council of Heralds. Ferelden has the Landsmeet, etc. We see that in Origins since Cailan had no heir so they had to decide on Anora who was already queen or Alistair who was the bastard child of Ming Maric. It also happened with Kirkwall, with Hawke being voted in as Viscount if you side with the Templars and later Varric gets voted in. Starkhaven also had this with Sebastian. Also we even see that in Orlais since Celene wasn't the closest to the throne but through her political savvy she got the Council on her side. And that's just the examples we see, let alone read about. Which makes sense since some medieval European countries did that as well if the royal line died out.
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Post by Polka Dot on Feb 20, 2019 4:54:12 GMT
Yeah, Ferelden's throne does concern me - or would if I didn't have it solved in my version of the world. Heh. Anora won't live forever, and it'll be interesting to see what happens next - assuming the series gets that far. (My Cousland warden sends brother Fergus a-courting. He could produce heirs on the side even if Anora can't, thus securing the throne. Couslands are kind of next in line, anyway, so I figure the power players of Ferelden would approve.) No idea what will happen in Orlais if Celene doesn't designate anyone to take her place, especially given the hijinks of the Orlesian nobility. But that's probably a topic for a different thread. It's actually addressed in the lore. If a monarch dies without an heir, a new one is voted in by the nobility. So Orlais has the Council of Heralds. Ferelden has the Landsmeet, etc. We see that in Origins since Cailan had no heir so they had to decide on Anora who was already queen or Alistair who was the bastard child of Ming Maric. It also happened with Kirkwall, with Hawke being voted in as Viscount if you side with the Templars and later Varric gets voted in. Starkhaven also had this with Sebastian. Also we even see that in Orlais since Celene wasn't the closest to the throne but through her political savvy she got the Council on her side. And that's just the examples we see, let alone read about. Which makes sense since some medieval European countries did that as well if the royal line died out. I realize there are processes in place to determine these things - I'm just not convinced it always goes all that smoothly. Consider, for example, Howe's coup on Highever. If the warden hadn't defeated him in a duel, Loghain might have remained regent - but would the others have accepted that? In a much earlier scene, Teagan was questioning Loghain, and after the warden presented evidence of Loghain's wrongdoing - well, it's a little hard for me to believe that Loghain would have had full support of the nobility. There may have been open rebellion. As for Orlais, per Leliana's descriptions of the bazillions of layers of supposed minor nobles, it could take years of "games" to even decide who gets to vote - lol.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 20, 2019 5:10:08 GMT
It's actually addressed in the lore. If a monarch dies without an heir, a new one is voted in by the nobility. So Orlais has the Council of Heralds. Ferelden has the Landsmeet, etc. We see that in Origins since Cailan had no heir so they had to decide on Anora who was already queen or Alistair who was the bastard child of Ming Maric. It also happened with Kirkwall, with Hawke being voted in as Viscount if you side with the Templars and later Varric gets voted in. Starkhaven also had this with Sebastian. Also we even see that in Orlais since Celene wasn't the closest to the throne but through her political savvy she got the Council on her side. And that's just the examples we see, let alone read about. Which makes sense since some medieval European countries did that as well if the royal line died out. I realize there are processes in place to determine these things - I'm just not convinced it always goes all that smoothly. Consider, for example, Howe's coup on Highever. If the warden hadn't defeated him in a duel, Loghain might have remained regent - but would the others have accepted that? In a much earlier scene, Teagan was questioning Loghain, and after the warden presented evidence of Loghain's wrongdoing - well, it's a little hard for me to believe that Loghain would have had full support of the nobility. There may have been open rebellion. As for Orlais, per Leliana's descriptions of the bazillions of layers of supposed minor nobles, it could take years of "games" to even decide who gets to vote - lol. Oh, I never said it always goes smoothly. The civil war in Orlais in DAI and the Landsmeet questline in DAO show how it can cause issues, some immediate and others that smoulder for decades before bursrting into flame. I just said there are systems in place. But anyway, back on topic Josephine doesn't need to worry about any of that.
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Post by Sifr on Feb 20, 2019 6:40:28 GMT
(My Cousland warden sends brother Fergus a-courting. He could produce heirs on the side even if Anora can't, thus securing the throne. Couslands are kind of next in line, anyway, so I figure the power players of Ferelden would approve.) Same, I figure that the Landsmeet would declare Fergus Cousland as the next King/Queen, should the current ruler chosen in Origins die without any issue.
Arl Eamon may be popular and influential, but he's getting on a bit. Bann Teagan might be younger and well-regarded, but like Eamon, his claim to the throne is only because his sister was Queen Rowan. Fergus doesn't have any relation to any past monarchs, but as Teyrn of Highever, he is the next highest ranked noble in the country and that the Couslands have a good enough reputation that I doubt the the Landsmeet wouldn't want to back him.
Of course, Fergus would need to have an heir himself, but I wouldn't blame him if he found the prospect of starting another family too painful.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Feb 20, 2019 11:35:35 GMT
Political processes rarely "go smoothly" in real life, so I don't see why that would be an expectation for fantasy worlds. If anything, it's better if they're complicated and messy. What good is a fantasy world without any drama in it? Succession/inheritance doesn't always "go smoothly" either. Conflict between siblings and other relatives happens a lot in fiction and actual history.
Also, this is only tangentially related to video game bangin' at best.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Feb 20, 2019 15:44:56 GMT
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Post by Polka Dot on Feb 20, 2019 16:47:55 GMT
(My Cousland warden sends brother Fergus a-courting. He could produce heirs on the side even if Anora can't, thus securing the throne. Couslands are kind of next in line, anyway, so I figure the power players of Ferelden would approve.) Same, I figure that the Landsmeet would declare Fergus Cousland as the next King/Queen, should the current ruler chosen in Origins die without any issue.
Arl Eamon may be popular and influential, but he's getting on a bit. Bann Teagan might be younger and well-regarded, but like Eamon, his claim to the throne is only because his sister was Queen Rowan. Fergus doesn't have any relation to any past monarchs, but as Teyrn of Highever, he is the next highest ranked noble in the country and that the Couslands have a good enough reputation that I doubt the the Landsmeet wouldn't want to back him. Of course, Fergus would need to have an heir himself, but I wouldn't blame him if he found the prospect of starting another family too painful.
In my personal headcanon, I usually do it pre-emptively. Anora is fairly popular and well-supported, but Loghain's fall from grace could spoil some of that sheen. Mac Tirs were commoners after all, until Loghain was promoted in recognition of his service in overcoming the Orlesian occupation. And Alistair is still out there with that (tainted) Theirin blood in his veins. So - I headcanon Fergus joining Anora on the throne - not so much as a power grab, but to ensure the long-term stability of Ferelden's crown. Yanno, both Anora and Fergus lost their spouses at roughly the same time, and would presumably complete the appropriate mourning period at the same time (though we don't really know how long Fergus was "in the wilderness" before he found out what transpired at Highever). We do know that Fergus is fertile even if Anora isn't. OT: bi/gay female KISA, please
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Post by wright1978 on Feb 20, 2019 18:55:04 GMT
(My Cousland warden sends brother Fergus a-courting. He could produce heirs on the side even if Anora can't, thus securing the throne. Couslands are kind of next in line, anyway, so I figure the power players of Ferelden would approve.) Same, I figure that the Landsmeet would declare Fergus Cousland as the next King/Queen, should the current ruler chosen in Origins die without any issue.
Arl Eamon may be popular and influential, but he's getting on a bit. Bann Teagan might be younger and well-regarded, but like Eamon, his claim to the throne is only because his sister was Queen Rowan. Fergus doesn't have any relation to any past monarchs, but as Teyrn of Highever, he is the next highest ranked noble in the country and that the Couslands have a good enough reputation that I doubt the the Landsmeet wouldn't want to back him.
Of course, Fergus would need to have an heir himself, but I wouldn't blame him if he found the prospect of starting another family too painful.
Don’t really see nobles backing fergus ever. Always figured he’s rather mocked.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Feb 20, 2019 21:05:11 GMT
I feel so attacked by this lmao Real people are assholes. Every single one. |
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Post by pessimistpanda on Feb 20, 2019 21:05:54 GMT
Same, I figure that the Landsmeet would declare Fergus Cousland as the next King/Queen, should the current ruler chosen in Origins die without any issue.
Arl Eamon may be popular and influential, but he's getting on a bit. Bann Teagan might be younger and well-regarded, but like Eamon, his claim to the throne is only because his sister was Queen Rowan. Fergus doesn't have any relation to any past monarchs, but as Teyrn of Highever, he is the next highest ranked noble in the country and that the Couslands have a good enough reputation that I doubt the the Landsmeet wouldn't want to back him.
Of course, Fergus would need to have an heir himself, but I wouldn't blame him if he found the prospect of starting another family too painful.
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Post by Polka Dot on Feb 20, 2019 21:24:11 GMT
So, I've been thinking about side quests and companion quests and such. Personally, I think one of the things that makes side quests more potent and enjoyable is the unexpected, even when it's used in little ways. That said, there are situations where I don't think the unexpected alone can do it. Blackwall's whole character arc is one big identity reveal, and it bores me utterly. That's personal, of course. I don't have anything against Rainier, really. I just wasn't engaged by his story. Anyway, it got me to thinking about how a lot, of DA companions keep big secrets from the protagonist. Even some of the more noble people, like Alistair. Question to the masses, then: Would you like that to be a possibility in the type of character you hope to explore a romance for in an upcoming game? What has been your favorite love interest character arc? And what, generally, kind of side story for an LI would you most like to see in the future? I liked the way they did that with Isabela. I sort of had an inkling that something was up, the way she danced around the "artifact" and peeled off with something urgent every time you went to visit the Arishok - lol. But Isabela was a hard-drinking, promiscuous, morally ambiguous pirate/thief, so her shenanigans around the artifact were not exactly shocking. It still created some very enjoyable drama. Generally, I vote for surprises - whether the form they take is character revelations or frankenmom. ETA: One thing that did perhaps disappoint me a bit is just how easily-influenced/malleable Leliana turned out to be. By that, I'm mostly referring to the fact that she could be hardened by both the warden and inquisitor.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Feb 20, 2019 21:29:40 GMT
So, I've been thinking about side quests and companion quests and such. Personally, I think one of the things that makes side quests more potent and enjoyable is the unexpected, even when it's used in little ways. That said, there are situations where I don't think the unexpected alone can do it. Blackwall's whole character arc is one big identity reveal, and it bores me utterly. That's personal, of course. I don't have anything against Rainier, really. I just wasn't engaged by his story. Anyway, it got me to thinking about how a lot, of DA companions keep big secrets from the protagonist. Even some of the more noble people, like Alistair. Question to the masses, then: Would you like that to be a possibility in the type of character you hope to explore a romance for in an upcoming game? What has been your favorite love interest character arc? And what, generally, kind of side story for an LI would you most like to see in the future? I liked the way they did that with Isabela. I sort of had an inkling that something was up, the way she danced around the "artifact" and peeled off with something urgent every time you went to visit the Arishok - lol. But Isabela was a hard-drinking, promiscuous, morally ambiguous pirate/thief, so her shenanigans around the artifact were not exactly shocking. It still created some very enjoyable drama. Generally, I vote for surprises - whether the form they take is character revelations or frankenmom. Frankenmom for LI. |
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Post by wright1978 on Feb 20, 2019 21:34:37 GMT
Don’t really see nobles backing fergus ever. Always figured he’s rather mocked. ... because his family got slaughtered? People may pity him for that.
Losing his men, conviently recuperating whilst the blight happened and turning up afterwards. It may all be innocent but i'd expect plenty of mockery behind his back.
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Post by Iddy on Feb 20, 2019 23:22:00 GMT
IddyAnders was not completely posessed. Janaka had Cory in her at the end. And Valta has a Titan mind controlling her and being creep AF. They aren't Janaka and Valta anymore, they're a meat bag being controlled by another being. Janeka dies before Corypheus is released, though. I don't think he possesses dead wardens. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 20, 2019 23:23:42 GMT
IddyAnders was not completely posessed. Janaka had Cory in her at the end. And Valta has a Titan mind controlling her and being creep AF. They aren't Janaka and Valta anymore, they're a meat bag being controlled by another being. Janeka dies before Corypheus is released, though. I don't think he possesses dead wardens. Depending on who you side with either Janeka or Larius are alive when Corypheus body jumps into them. |
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Post by Iddy on Feb 20, 2019 23:25:50 GMT
honestly, I think it would have been fun to see Isabella chafe and complain under the latter, both ultimately stay with you  . [/div][/quote] I disagree. A relationship where you're expected to neglect yourself isn't healthy. Either Isabela would be allowed to continue having casual sex with other people or asexual Hawke compromises, within his/her comfort boundaries. |
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Post by Liadan on Feb 21, 2019 15:59:50 GMT
Regarding the new poll i chose tasteful but i don`t mind fade to black if we have kisses/hugs/flirts before and some cuddling and pillow talk afterwards, something that shows passion and love without the actual sex scene. I`m also in favor of that idea to have the option to choose between sex or the option to declined it without ending the romance (as long as whichever option we take are validated throughout the game), i prefer to have both options than having it left ambiguous or to headcanon.
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Post by Sifr on Feb 21, 2019 18:53:03 GMT
In my personal headcanon, I usually do it pre-emptively. Anora is fairly popular and well-supported, but Loghain's fall from grace could spoil some of that sheen. Mac Tirs were commoners after all, until Loghain was promoted in recognition of his service in overcoming the Orlesian occupation. And Alistair is still out there with that (tainted) Theirin blood in his veins. So - I headcanon Fergus joining Anora on the throne - not so much as a power grab, but to ensure the long-term stability of Ferelden's crown. Yanno, both Anora and Fergus lost their spouses at roughly the same time, and would presumably complete the appropriate mourning period at the same time (though we don't really know how long Fergus was "in the wilderness" before he found out what transpired at Highever). We do know that Fergus is fertile even if Anora isn't. A political marriage between Fergus and Anora would made sense if you were playing as a female Cousland who married Alistair. In that scenario, it might work to appease Anora (and her supporters) that even if she can't be Queen anymore, becoming the Teynra of Highever wouldn't exactly a major step down for her in terms of power and influence. It'd also reduce the chance of their being another civil war for the throne, as her marriage to Fergus would make it unlikely that he'd consider trying to steal the throne from his sister.
Even for non-Cousland Wardens or where Alistair rules alone on the throne, you'd think that maybe the Warden or Arl Eamon might suggest that Anora be married to someone that could be trusted, to reduce the risk of further civil war? If Anora was offered her father's lands and titles restored in exchange for marrying Fergus or Teagan, she might accept that as suitable compensation for not pursuing the throne anymore... and at the very least, it better than spending the rest of her life locked in Fort Drakon.
OT: bi/gay female KISA, please Seconded! Let our female character's romance someone like Cass or Aveline for once? (Also imagine what the female versions of Cullen or Alistair would be like)  ... because his family got slaughtered? People may pity him for that.
Losing his men, conviently recuperating whilst the blight happened and turning up afterwards. It may all be innocent but i'd expect plenty of mockery behind his back. Many nobles suffered just as badly during the Blight, losing sons to Darkspawn or having their lands devastated. I don't think they'd mock Fergus for being badly injured at Ostagar and missing most of the action as a result, as many of them have suffered much the same.
It'd be like mocking Eamon for spending half the Blight in bed and ignoring when Redcliffe was attacked by undead, as well not doing anything about the demon possessing his son... the guy was in a coma after being poisoned! What could he do about it?
Same as saying that Alfstanna's brother was derelict in his duties as a Templar during the Blight, because Howe had imprisoned him for several months and tortured him by depriving of lyrium, so much that by the time the Warden found him he was delirious.
As I said before, there were many nobles who suffered or were forced to sit out most of the Blight, not just Fergus. Janeka dies before Corypheus is released, though. I don't think he possesses dead wardens. Depending on who you side with either Janeka or Larius are alive when Corypheus body jumps into them. Yeah, siding with Janeka has her kill Larius (using magic to blow him up!), leading to her getting possessed by Corypheus afterwards.
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Post by Polka Dot on Feb 21, 2019 20:37:31 GMT
In my personal headcanon, I usually do it pre-emptively. Anora is fairly popular and well-supported, but Loghain's fall from grace could spoil some of that sheen. Mac Tirs were commoners after all, until Loghain was promoted in recognition of his service in overcoming the Orlesian occupation. And Alistair is still out there with that (tainted) Theirin blood in his veins. So - I headcanon Fergus joining Anora on the throne - not so much as a power grab, but to ensure the long-term stability of Ferelden's crown. Yanno, both Anora and Fergus lost their spouses at roughly the same time, and would presumably complete the appropriate mourning period at the same time (though we don't really know how long Fergus was "in the wilderness" before he found out what transpired at Highever). We do know that Fergus is fertile even if Anora isn't. A political marriage between Fergus and Anora would made sense if you were playing as a female Cousland who married Alistair. In that scenario, it might work to appease Anora (and her supporters) that even if she can't be Queen anymore, becoming the Teynra of Highever wouldn't exactly a major step down for her in terms of power and influence. It'd also reduce the chance of their being another civil war for the throne, as her marriage to Fergus would make it unlikely that he'd consider trying to steal the throne from his sister.
Even for non-Cousland Wardens or where Alistair rules alone on the throne, you'd think that maybe the Warden or Arl Eamon might suggest that Anora be married to someone that could be trusted, to reduce the risk of further civil war? If Anora was offered her father's lands and titles restored in exchange for marrying Fergus or Teagan, she might accept that as suitable compensation for not pursuing the throne anymore... and at the very least, it better than spending the rest of her life locked in Fort Drakon.
Huh. I'd never really considered that angle, but I like it. Fergus & Anora would be quite the power couple, with both Teyrnirs under their management. The HoF (as Warden Commander) ends up Arl of Amaranthine, which I think is also part of Highever. I'd never really considered what happens to Gwaren after Loghain falls. I don't always put on Alistair on the throne for a variety of reasons - he's really not prepared for the role, could be viewed as Eamon's puppet, and frankly doesn't want it. I usually crown Anora alone and then send Fergus a-courting - so he's actually King-Consort, and still the Teyrn of Highever.  I'm usually more interested in a potential LI's personality than class, but am overdue for a warrior. A woman in heavy armor, Biowar pls. Excellent points all.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Feb 21, 2019 21:17:17 GMT
Nobles who suffered or were forced to sit out most of the Blight for LIs plz.
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Post by wright1978 on Feb 21, 2019 21:22:27 GMT
People may pity him for that.
Losing his men, conviently recuperating whilst the blight happened and turning up afterwards. It may all be innocent but i'd expect plenty of mockery behind his back. Many nobles suffered just as badly during the Blight, losing sons to Darkspawn or having their lands devastated. I don't think they'd mock Fergus for being badly injured at Ostagar and missing most of the action as a result, as many of them have suffered much the same.
It'd be like mocking Eamon for spending half the Blight in bed and ignoring when Redcliffe was attacked by undead, as well not doing anything about the demon possessing his son... the guy was in a coma after being poisoned! What could he do about it?
Same as saying that Alfstanna's brother was derelict in his duties as a Templar during the Blight, because Howe had imprisoned him for several months and tortured him by depriving of lyrium, so much that by the time the Warden found him he was delirious.
As I said before, there were many nobles who suffered or were forced to sit out most of the Blight, not just Fergus.
I believe they’d mock him because many wouldn’t believe his tale . If Eamon had only turned up after the final battle people might be more dubious about his coma. Fergus neither has the claim nor the war hero factor to make me think the lansmeet would ever consider him for king
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Post by Sifr on Feb 21, 2019 23:22:04 GMT
I believe they’d mock him because many wouldn’t believe his tale . If Eamon had only turned up after the final battle people might be more dubious about his coma. Fergus neither has the claim nor the war hero factor to make me think the lansmeet would ever consider him for king. People would know that Fergus was leading scouting parties into the Wilds at Ostagar. I don't think people wouldn't question his story about how he barely survived his scouting party being wiped out, when even the army was soundly defeated in battle there.
Even if they didn't fully believe his story about being injured, I doubt they would mock/blame him if they thought he'd gone into hiding instead following the battle.
After Howe's treachery, there would have been a price on his head if he'd shown back up alive. With Highever under Howe's control and the King dead, who exactly could he trust to go to for help anyway? The civil war meant that any noble he went to for aid retaking Highever could easily sell him out to Howe/Loghain.
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