DA 4 Romances! New info for real this time!!! Zom-bangin'?

You do realise that no one, who brought up the idea of a KISA LI, defined it as a perfect character with no flaws?

The core of the trope is a character (almost always a warrior) with a strong moral code and a drive to help others or generally do good. Everything else is up to the writer. But they usually appreciate being romantic (Alistair and the rose, Cass and the poetry). This general definition disqualifies Sebastian (motivated by revenge, not doing good) and Blackwall (lack of moral code caused his whole character arc). People can disagree about some characters (I don't view Cullen as a KISA, though he is clearly presented as one in DAI, others might disagree with me that Paladin Danse from Fallout 4 is one), but Alistair, Aveline, and Cassandra are pretty strong examples.

Popular flaws that these characters can have:
- black and white thinking, naively idealistic, no flexibility in views, even to a point they're hurting others or themselves
- being stoic and serious to extremes (Knight in Sour Armour)
- their moral code can lead to them being unfairly harsh to some groups
- it's hard for them to spot the error in their moral code or the corruption in their own group (super popular with the KISA trope)
- when they can no longer rely on their organisation or code, they can completely fall apart (Alistair, Danse)

And so on. So yes, we've had several straight characters in this trope and no LGB ones. BW should do one, if for no other reason than introducing more variety.

SANDAL!!!

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Oh wow, I managed to summon Sandal with the KISA power of my post, I should do that more often!

(welcome back friendo!)

You forgot 7. It would mean throwing the worst character of all time into a wood chipper probably wouldn’t kill her.

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Get some of those rubber caps people use to stop chair legs from scratching up hardwood floors.

Why is is that every time someone writes "learn from their mistakes" I hear "cater more to my preferences"

To be honest unless you have a specific character arc like Dorian that requires explicit sexuality i'm very much i favour of player sexuality from a choice perspective. I don't find the notion of getting a different experience with a character in a different universe(playthrough) as being unseemly.

I mean, I never cared that much about it. A character like Alistair would be nice. I would have romanced him over Zevran if given the choice.

I find the Knight in Shining Armour concept to be so broad as to be almost meaningless. I'm not at all clear on what such a character is meant to be. I don't consider Aveline, Cullen, Cassandra or Blackwall to embody "chivalry" or good morals or whatever other qualities the character archetype supposedly possesses.

As far as tropes go, I prefer wisecracking rogues (as in personality wise, not necessarily class). That's what I find entertaining, and also the kind of character I like to play.