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Post by jrpN7 on Dec 15, 2018 16:31:33 GMT
Everyone seems pretty convinced Dorian shouldn't return as a companion, and that all seems heavily based on the assumption that the companions shouldn't return because they'll be too powerful or knowledgeable for the new protagonist... but it's still up in the air who the protagonist is and the Inquisitor may be making a return. That said, if the protagonist is the Inquisitor, it's totally reasonable for Dorian to return as a companion. However, I personally would like new companions and to keep Dorian as a key NPC in several missions throughout Tevinter. He'd provide valuable insight into the Imperium while us also getting to know new, interesting characters. Either way, I'm curious to see if Dorian will look different:    If he does appear aged, would the Inquisitor or Cassandra look aged too? How would BioWare age all our Inquisitors? In the end, while I liked Dorian, he was a little egotistical and annoying at times... he wasn't my ideal romance, but he was preferable to Iron Bull... and he did have his charm at times. Regardless of whether he was romanced or not, he does have great value to Tevinter and him making appearances in DA4 is a MUST. |
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Dec 15, 2018 16:40:24 GMT
You do realize your arguing the same point for no reason for harding right? Could you get more specific?
This is like the "we don't want Dorian thread." Let me correct that. "We don´t want Doran as companion"
Why? This is just Mark Meer. And that wasn´t even his best and funnist role in Dragon Age.
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Post by linksocarina on Dec 15, 2018 17:28:54 GMT
You do realize your arguing the same point for no reason for harding right? Could you get more specific? You are arguing a point we agree on for no reason. |
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Post by fistoffiori on Dec 15, 2018 21:36:28 GMT
I'd like a completely new set of Companions, but for all my advisors/companions from DAI to return in some form, either as advisors or turning up for a quest/storyline. My ending I chose for Trespasser had me vowing to stop and prove Solas wrong then disbanded the inquisition.
In my head for DA4 we start our own story and it goes on for a while before we even meet existing characters after gradually getting nearer then being involved in the fight to stop Solas.
Specifically Dorian as the thread asks? I hope he's prominent! He wasn't my Inquisitor's romance but he was absolutely my mage party member of choice (my first and biggest playthrough I did rogue dual wield). Loved taking him, Bull and Sera (or Varric) out as my team.
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Post by noviere on Dec 16, 2018 21:21:08 GMT
Dorian is in my top 3 favorite Bioware companions... I love him. I'll be thrilled if he shows up in DA4, even in a major role, but I don't want him as a companion again.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Dec 16, 2018 21:22:23 GMT
Just according to my headcanon from Trespasser - Dorian is busy. Too much responsibility to go galavanting around with Quiz Jr or whatever. Inky and Dorian have their cellstone to FaceTime with.
Great character, hope to see him make at least a cameo and preferably he is a major NPC - if the game is played in Tevinter, he has to be there somehow.
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Post by boxofscreaming on Dec 16, 2018 21:29:56 GMT
I'd like to see Dorian again, but isn't he an important politician now? Can't see him traipsing around taking orders from some new player character.
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Post by arwynvalya on Dec 16, 2018 21:52:19 GMT
I think it is more likely that he will come as a part of a quest or an ally, not a companion per se. But hey, who knows?
I personally like having new people each game with cameos from past chars.
Also, throughout the games the only major companion that made a comeback in our party was Varric. Sure we had Anders and Merril before, and while Merril was specific to the dalish origin, Anders was from the DLC and was completely changed by the time of DA2. So no major characters there. Oghren was from DAO's DLC, so I also don't count him.
It is far more likely that we see a secondary character come as companion, maybe someone who did not have a lot of time in the spotlight but that have drawn our attention before (think about it: Isabella, Cassandra..)
I place my bets on Harding.
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Dec 16, 2018 22:04:54 GMT
Oghren was from DAO's DLC, so I also don't count him. Er, no, he's a significant part of the base game. You can't go to the Anvil without taking him with you. I think you're thinking of Shale. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 16, 2018 22:06:08 GMT
Oghren was from DAO's DLC, so I also don't count him. Er, no, he's a significant part of the base game. You can't go to the Anvil without taking him with you. I think you're thinking of Shale. I think they meant he returned in a DLC rather than returned in another game. |
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Dec 16, 2018 22:17:45 GMT
Er, no, he's a significant part of the base game. You can't go to the Anvil without taking him with you. I think you're thinking of Shale. I think they meant he returned in a DLC rather than returned in another game. Oh, whoops. I read that the wrong way around. |
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Post by NotN7 on Dec 16, 2018 22:20:36 GMT
Dorian he's ( according to me)is going to be a major NPC advisor not a player controlled toon. if you think about it, he needs to be as neutral as possible for the sake of his country since its according to all the next installment will be in Tewinter.
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Post by Sifr on Dec 17, 2018 13:51:32 GMT
I'd like to see Dorian again, but isn't he an important politician now? Can't see him traipsing around taking orders from some new player character. Yeah, it'd be better for our player character to be taking orders from him, rather than us ordering him about.
Then again, Aveline was still available as a follower in DA2 even after becoming Guard-Captain. One way that Dorian (or Mae) accompanying us could be excused is by having them serve as our "chaperone", as their Magister status is needed to get us into high-society functions or locations we'd otherwise be barred from entering.
Maybe the conditions for losing them as companions are going too much against what the Lucerni's goals or engaging in actions that reflect poorly back on them, as we're technically working for them as one of their representatives? If we kill too many people, people will blame them instead, because it looks like they ordered/sanctioned our actions.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2018 14:22:04 GMT
Yeah, it'd be better for our player character to be taking orders from him, rather than us ordering him about.
Then again, Aveline was still available as a follower in DA2 even after becoming Guard-Captain. One way that Dorian (or Mae) accompanying us could be excused is by having them serve as our "chaperone", as their Magister status is needed to get us into high-society functions or locations we'd otherwise be barred from entering.
Maybe the conditions for losing them as companions are going too much against what the Lucerni's goals or engaging in actions that reflect poorly back on them, as we're technically working for them as one of their representatives? If we kill too many people, people will blame them instead, because it looks like they ordered/sanctioned our actions.
There's always been a bit of hand waving on that. Aveline and Cassandra were both good examples of terribly important people who are party members. And the writers made sure it made sense for both of them (although there were definitely quests that I went on that I specifically didn't bring Aveline because I thought it would be silly to have the guard captain traipsing about with me for an errand quest), so I'm not concerned about that. I think that if they want either Dorian or Mae back as a party member, they'll make sure that it makes sense. |
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 17, 2018 21:58:27 GMT
Yeah, it'd be better for our player character to be taking orders from him, rather than us ordering him about.
Then again, Aveline was still available as a follower in DA2 even after becoming Guard-Captain. One way that Dorian (or Mae) accompanying us could be excused is by having them serve as our "chaperone", as their Magister status is needed to get us into high-society functions or locations we'd otherwise be barred from entering.
Maybe the conditions for losing them as companions are going too much against what the Lucerni's goals or engaging in actions that reflect poorly back on them, as we're technically working for them as one of their representatives? If we kill too many people, people will blame them instead, because it looks like they ordered/sanctioned our actions.
There's always been a bit of hand waving on that. Aveline and Cassandra were both good examples of terribly important people who are party members. And the writers made sure it made sense for both of them (although there were definitely quests that I went on that I specifically didn't bring Aveline because I thought it would be silly to have the guard captain traipsing about with me for an errand quest), so I'm not concerned about that. I think that if they want either Dorian or Mae back as a party member, they'll make sure that it makes sense. One thing I liked about Aveline (besides EVERYTHING) is that her being Guard-Captain came up a LOT when you were traipsing about with her. If you ran into one of her guardsmen during a quest, they'd acknowledge each other, if you ask Bran why he doesn't take such-and-such to the city guard, Aveline chimes in... even when you're just standing around in Hightown, one of the idle banters has her and her patrolling guardsmen acknowledge each other. She occasionally complains when you bring her along for shady missions. It was a neat little addition that reminds us that she's ACTUALLY the Captain of the Guard and not just Hawke's muscle. I would love to see something similar for a Magister companion. |
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Post by linksocarina on Dec 19, 2018 7:30:32 GMT
Oghren was from DAO's DLC, so I also don't count him. Er, no, he's a significant part of the base game. You can't go to the Anvil without taking him with you. I think you're thinking of Shale. Also to be fair, after that he has no role in the game whatsoever except as comic relief. |
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Feb 20, 2019 22:58:51 GMT
Its very likely that Dorian will have an important/big role in DA 4. Maybe he had even more screentime than Solas.
So who should write him? His former writer David Gaider isn´t an option for him.
Patrick Weekes or someone else?
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Post by pessimistpanda on Feb 21, 2019 2:33:03 GMT
Its very likely that Dorian will have an important/big role in DA 4. Maybe he had even more screentime than Solas. So who should write him? His former writer David Gaider isn´t an option for him. Patrick Weekes or someone else? Ugh. Alright, FINE. I'll do it. |
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 23, 2019 10:45:09 GMT
Its very likely that Dorian will have an important/big role in DA 4. Maybe he had even more screentime than Solas. So who should write him? His former writer David Gaider isn´t an option for him. Patrick Weekes or someone else? This is one of the major problems in making him too involved with the plot in that many fans of him will be unhappy if he doesn't seem to chime with the character we knew in DAI. However, that said, he has been used in the comic series more than once, the second time post-Trespasser when he was back in Tevinter and he did appear to still be acting on behalf of the shadow Inquisition in getting people to undertake quests on their behalf. So I very much feel that will be his role in the next game, giving quests on behalf of the shadow Inquisition (main plot?) or the Lucerni (sub-plot?) as well as guiding the PC through the complexities of Tevinter society. |
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Feb 27, 2019 18:42:11 GMT
This is one of the major problems in making him too involved with the plot in that many fans of him will be unhappy if he doesn't seem to chime with the character we knew in DAI. Many characters previously writen by David Gaider were handled over other autors.
Also David Gaider built already a good foundation for him in Trespasser and finished some storylines. I don´t think that Gereon Alexius his Felix Alexius or even his decreased father Halward Pavus would matter in DA 4. Dorian Pavus is (or with Mae) the leader of the Lucerni and a Magister.
Last but not least David Gaider is still considered as friend within Bioware. Dorian DA 4 for example Patrick Weekes could simply ask him or use his notes.
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Post by Walter Black on Feb 28, 2019 15:31:20 GMT
I'm fine with Dorian having a cameo, being a quest giver or even an Advisor. But in the end I think Maevaris would make a better potential Lucerni Companion; she similar enough to evoke the "returning Companion' vibe, but different enough to be her own person and have her own story. Key word potential, as I would rather our characters not be locked into serving the Inquisition, or like minded people, if we don't want to.
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Feb 28, 2019 19:10:34 GMT
An Advisor role (i would label it more as faction leader) like Leliana maybe with less screentime
would be the best option for Dorian.
But i agree we don´t need him as companion again if we can get Mae instead.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Aug 29, 2020 20:20:52 GMT
Necroposting i know but i don´t want to make a new one.  So is Dorian back as companion? I thought that Bioware don´t like to bring former companion back who were romance options. |
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Post by wright1978 on Aug 29, 2020 20:23:05 GMT
No i expect him as a faction contact/important NPC or whatever the alternative they come up with instead of Advisors.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Aug 29, 2020 20:26:17 GMT
No i expect him as a faction contact/important NPC or whatever the alternative they come up with instead of Advisors. So why is he shown in his action concept art with two characters which seem to be companions?
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