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Post by midnight tea on Jan 26, 2019 16:29:44 GMT
Almost everyone is complaining of serious rubberbanding in freeplay, yet things are much better in regular missions. That's troubling. Maybe a different kind of network architecture at work in freeplay. I said over and over again they should have called this a beta. They shot themselves in the foot calling it a demo, which is supposed to be a FINISHED slice of the game. No, they never said that it was a finished slice of game - in fact they were pretty open about it being a snapshot of game taken from December (and the modified for the sake of demo) and with 6 weeks less of bug fixes compared to the main game.
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Post by hawkspian on Jan 26, 2019 16:36:44 GMT
Almost everyone is complaining of serious rubberbanding in freeplay, yet things are much better in regular missions. That's troubling. Maybe a different kind of network architecture at work in freeplay. I said over and over again they should have called this a beta. They shot themselves in the foot calling it a demo, which is supposed to be a FINISHED slice of the game. No, they never said that it was a finished slice of game - in fact they were pretty open about it being a snapshot of game taken from December (and the modified for the sake of demo) and with 6 weeks less of bug fixes compared to the main game. Makes you wonder why they put it out ha. They know how angry us games get and how we want the best of everything right now!
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Post by Kelwing on Jan 26, 2019 16:47:32 GMT
No, they never said that it was a finished slice of game - in fact they were pretty open about it being a snapshot of game taken from December (and the modified for the sake of demo) and with 6 weeks less of bug fixes compared to the main game. Makes you wonder why they put it out ha. They know how angry us games get and how we want the best of everything right now! Honestly I feel like this is server testing. When there are no connection issues I have zero issues. Soon as there seems to be the slightest of connection issues. Hang on as the ride is about to get bumpy. Will it pass or am I exiting game and restarting.
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Post by midnight tea on Jan 26, 2019 16:52:15 GMT
No, they never said that it was a finished slice of game - in fact they were pretty open about it being a snapshot of game taken from December (and the modified for the sake of demo) and with 6 weeks less of bug fixes compared to the main game. Makes you wonder why they put it out ha. They know how angry us games get and how we want the best of everything right now! They wanted us to try the gist of the game, plus we do see that they are still working hard 24/7 to resolve issues. Also, we can't tell how many issues we see were because the game ain't finished and how many are there because there are connectivity issues, so I don't think they just pushed out a glitchy product. But that's how it is when you release the thing to the wild - no amount of Q&A or alfa/beta testing will prepare anyone for problems stemming from so many people trying to get in as well as connectivity issues that may not stem from Anthem servers or all the possible configurations of people's gaming rigs. When I began playing ESO I think it was mostly down for the first day. Even 5 years launch and devs doing a titanic work to make the game as stable as possible, sometimes the major patches break the game to a point that they have to take it offline for hours to apply hotfixes, and that's after open PTS period. I guess we will see at the end of the weekend how much BW is going to resolve on the server side and then how the demo will look a week from now. There's still a month to actual release so they can deal with at least portion of issues.
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Post by giubba on Jan 26, 2019 16:54:14 GMT
Ok spent some quality time with the demo my thoughts are: PROs -Fucking beautiful game -Incredible level design -flying is tons on fun and the first time that you are able to fly for more than 15 seconds is memorable -Combat took heavily from Andromeda which is a good thing -Story sucked me even if lacked a lot of contest from previous missions -I see what they did with the conversation with other NPC in fort tarsis and the dialogue system. Each conversation lead to a branch in the particular story between your pilot and that character and the answer shape how the story will progress to a degree. -Javelin customization is exactly cool as i imagined as it would be CONs -The game sometime goes really really dark and orienting yourself underwater or in lightly illuminated area could be confusing as hell -Still some bug -Heavy weapons left me pretty disappointed the heavy autocannon in particular has a really small ammunition storage capacity ,only 200~ round over the 150~ of the magazine, for a weapon that churn rounds like there is no tomorrow and took forever to reload. -I really really really REALLY hope that they will change the way the instancing work because it fucking enraged me that if you explore in free mode and try to access a zone different from the one you begin you got teleported back -Last a bloody text chat for PC version would be great
Game is HARD, on normal i died multiple times doing various task. There are lots of enemies they hit hard and if you face em on your own prepare for a thought ride. When you play with other players and you are able to actually coordinate with them is great but if not the game could become quite frustrating
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Post by Obadiah on Jan 26, 2019 16:58:46 GMT
Makes you wonder why they put it out ha. They know how angry us games get and how we want the best of everything right now! Honestly I feel like this is server testing. When there are no connection issues I have zero issues. Soon as there seems to be the slightest of connection issues. Hang on as the ride is about to get bumpy. Will it pass or am I exiting game and restarting. Bioware wouldn't have put it out there if they didn't think gamers would have a largely positive impression. Bugs and all, I think its giving the game some good buzz.
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Post by lennybusker on Jan 26, 2019 17:12:10 GMT
Almost everyone is complaining of serious rubberbanding in freeplay, yet things are much better in regular missions. That's troubling. Maybe a different kind of network architecture at work in freeplay. I said over and over again they should have called this a beta. They shot themselves in the foot calling it a demo, which is supposed to be a FINISHED slice of the game. No, they never said that it was a finished slice of game - in fact they were pretty open about it being a snapshot of game taken from December (and the modified for the sake of demo) and with 6 weeks less of bug fixes compared to the main game. So looks like a beta, walks like a beta, talks like a beta, wears the same clothes as a beta, likes the same foods as a beta, shares a Netflix login with a beta, but since they labeled it Demo it's a demo. Except that I've never seen any other demo that's in an unpolished state like this. You don't get to have it both ways.
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Post by kirthesid on Jan 26, 2019 17:18:38 GMT
Are there a lot of demos floating around out there? I haven't seen them.
My guess about the instancing is that is the edge of the demo area and you're being turned back. Everything else I really enjoyed and am looking forward to the full release.
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Post by hawkspian on Jan 26, 2019 17:19:19 GMT
Makes you wonder why they put it out ha. They know how angry us games get and how we want the best of everything right now! They wanted us to try the gist of the game, plus we do see that they are still working hard 24/7 to resolve issues. Also, we can't tell how many issues we see were because the game ain't finished and how many are there because there are connectivity issues, so I don't think they just pushed out a glitchy product. But that's how it is when you release the thing to the wild - no amount of Q&A or alfa/beta testing will prepare anyone for problems stemming from so many people trying to get in as well as connectivity issues that may not stem from Anthem servers or all the possible configurations of people's gaming rigs. When I began playing ESO I think it was mostly down for the first day. Even 5 years launch and devs doing a titanic work to make the game as stable as possible, sometimes the major patches break the game to a point that they have to take it offline for hours to apply hotfixes, and that's after open PTS period. I guess we will see at the end of the weekend how much BW is going to resolve on the server side and then how the demo will look a week from now. There's still a month to actual release so they can deal with at least portion of issues. I've just spent the last hour trying to play hard missions by joining on quick play. Every single game I got in was unplayable. It was identical to how it used to be on mass effect Andromeda multiplayer when the person hosting was downloading or just had a terrible connection. If this game is client host base and not dedicated servers then the quick play with randoms aspect is going to fail massively. They didn't fix it on me3 or Andromeda. No reason to think this is gonna be any different.
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Post by midnight tea on Jan 26, 2019 17:22:41 GMT
No, they never said that it was a finished slice of game - in fact they were pretty open about it being a snapshot of game taken from December (and the modified for the sake of demo) and with 6 weeks less of bug fixes compared to the main game. So looks like a beta, walks like a beta, talks like a beta, wears the same clothes as a beta, likes the same foods as a beta, shares a Netflix login with a beta, but since they labeled it Demo it's a demo. Except that I've never seen any other demo that's in an unpolished state like this. You don't get to have it both ways. They don't have it both ways. Beta doesn't just mean 'an unfinished game'. They didn't release this game to *test* stuff - they took a snapshot of the game and opened a small slice of it to let us try it. And it's easy to say that you haven't seen any other demo that is unpolished like this... okay, but when was the last time you saw a demo, or specifically a demo on this engine? Weren't you the one complaining that they aren't much around anymore recently, in another thread? May it be that one of the reasons demos aren't around is because modern game are way more complex and difficult to take a slice of than those from times when demos were commonplace? Clearly Bioware thinks that the practice has its merits, even if it takes a bit to get there.
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Post by giubba on Jan 26, 2019 17:23:03 GMT
Ah forgot a point in my previous post, did you guys have issue with the audio? I dunno if a problem of my pc but i think that some of the audio for certain part of the game (for example when a rare loot is shown as reward) didn't play. I do not think is a problem of the game but more a problem with my pc but i would like a confirmation
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Post by Kelwing on Jan 26, 2019 17:31:00 GMT
Ah forgot a point in my previous post, did you guys have issue with the audio? I dunno if a problem of my pc but i think that some of the audio for certain part of the game (for example when a rare loot is shown as reward) didn't play. I do not think is a problem of the game but more a problem with my pc but i would like a confirmation I did notice some audio issues here and there. I haven't updated audio drivers in a long time so may be that.
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Post by Hrungr on Jan 26, 2019 17:35:09 GMT
Ah forgot a point in my previous post, did you guys have issue with the audio? I dunno if a problem of my pc but i think that some of the audio for certain part of the game (for example when a rare loot is shown as reward) didn't play. I do not think is a problem of the game but more a problem with my pc but i would like a confirmation I did notice some audio issues here and there. I haven't updated audio drivers in a long time so may be that. It appears to be game-related, as I've heard a number of people having issues (console & PC).
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Post by OdanUrr on Jan 26, 2019 17:37:56 GMT
Beta, demo, call it whatever, but wouldn't it have been in BioWare's best interest to have us play it earlier to give them time to fix these issues before release?
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Post by SofaJockey on Jan 26, 2019 17:42:01 GMT
Bioware wouldn't have put it out there if they didn't think gamers would have a largely positive impression. Bugs and all, I think its giving the game some good buzz. I'm quite an optimist, but I do think they need to close the demo with a strong day tomorrow, no 95% bug, friend codes available, working as well as the closed alpha basically (shhh)...
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Post by giubba on Jan 26, 2019 17:42:07 GMT
I did notice some audio issues here and there. I haven't updated audio drivers in a long time so may be that. It appears to be game-related, as I've heard a number of people having issues (console & PC). okay thanks guys
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Post by giubba on Jan 26, 2019 17:43:31 GMT
Bioware wouldn't have put it out there if they didn't think gamers would have a largely positive impression. Bugs and all, I think its giving the game some good buzz. I'm quite an optimist, but I do think they need to close the demo with a strong day tomorrow, no 95% bug, friend codes available, working as well as the closed alpha basically (shhh)... Maybe they will extend the demo period
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Post by monkeylungs on Jan 26, 2019 17:44:05 GMT
Beta, demo, call it whatever, but wouldn't it have been in BioWare's best interest to have us play it earlier to give them time to fix these issues before release? The infinite loading screen is so wide spread I am just kind of baffled they weren't aware it was going to happen. I don't think they have a large enough pool of testers.
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Post by monkeylungs on Jan 26, 2019 17:46:23 GMT
Bioware wouldn't have put it out there if they didn't think gamers would have a largely positive impression. Bugs and all, I think its giving the game some good buzz. I'm quite an optimist, but I do think they need to close the demo with a strong day tomorrow, no 95% bug, friend codes available, working as well as the closed alpha basically (shhh)... If you are willing to sit in EA Chat you can get friend codes. EA Chat helper bro/sister was insanely polite and helpful for me this morning! And really fast once I actually connected in chat. I jumped on early so wait time was only around 45 minutes.
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Post by Hrungr on Jan 26, 2019 17:47:49 GMT
I'm quite an optimist, but I do think they need to close the demo with a strong day tomorrow, no 95% bug, friend codes available, working as well as the closed alpha basically (shhh)... Maybe they will extend the demo period I have a feeling they will do something to try and make it up to those who pre-ordered. Maybe they'll extend the demo or give them a little extra something in-game at launch.
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Post by giubba on Jan 26, 2019 17:49:14 GMT
keep remembering stuff i wanted to ask you guys.
Where you able to set way points while doing some free roaming?
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Post by AnDromedary on Jan 26, 2019 17:50:08 GMT
So I actually could play the first mission (which was fun enough actually). Weirdly enough though, for a while I kept getting a message saying "connection problem" in the middle of the screen although everything was working just fine. The problem was, the message would prompt me to click OK and as long as this was up my mouse wouldn't work for controlling the character. You can imagine that this is a problem in an MP game without pause, so I died once because of that. But one fo the randoms I played with was kind enough to revive me, so it worked out.
Then, I started to do some free exploring, which worked great until I tried to fly into a cave. I did not expect every cave in this game to have its own loading screen. What is this, Skyrim? Come on BioWare! When I then tried to exit the cave, I got the infinite loading screen. I will try again tonight.
So far, my preliminary opinion on the game (without taking the technical issues into account) would be "it's pretty ok but certainly nothing that blows me away".
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Post by Hrungr on Jan 26, 2019 17:52:44 GMT
keep remembering stuff i wanted to ask you guys. Where you able to set way points while doing some free roaming? I didn't see any way... I wondered if I missed something myself.
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Post by midnight tea on Jan 26, 2019 17:55:34 GMT
Beta, demo, call it whatever, but wouldn't it have been in BioWare's best interest to have us play it earlier to give them time to fix these issues before release? Well, it's certainly better for problems to occur now than during actual release. Plus, some of the issues we experience now may not be issues that will happen with the game, like the fact that some of the issues experienced seem to stem from VIP demo invites and codes.
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