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Post by hawkspian on Jan 27, 2019 1:38:44 GMT
and there being only 3 at launch, I've seen this mentioned before, but what's the source for it? Developer tweeted it
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Post by biggydx on Jan 27, 2019 2:03:44 GMT
I've seen this mentioned before, but what's the source for it? Developer tweeted it I found the source. One of the producers from an IGN live video mentioned. That is pretty small. I know Jon Warner said they're supposed to be putting out another video some time in the short term about what they plan for upcoming endgame content. He said there's supposed to be new "aspirational content" that's supposed to come out shortly after the game releases.
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Post by OdanUrr on Jan 27, 2019 2:28:19 GMT
Some overall thoughts: - SWIMMING FUCKING SUCKS unless you're using a controller, in which case it only mildly sucks due to lighting. It's impossible to swim with M+K. I died more times swimming than to enemy fire. In fact, our whole squad was killed the first time we tried the stronghold due to a lack of oxygen.
- Loading screens = Kill program. If I'm faced with a loading screen, 90% of the time I'll have to kill the game. When we wiped in the stronghold and the game went to a loading screen, I had to kill it again and lost my entire progress. Nice.
- The difficulty spike from mobs to boss in that stronghold is insane. We all got OHK'd by the spider.
- I still can't craft shit, but I'm hoping this is somehow tied to the leveling system. Or something.
- I don't understand the choices made in Fort Tarsis. The city is lifeless, and your inability to run or jump around the place is an odd (and unwelcome) restriction. Why are we even doing first-person here? Nothing makes sense.
- Since we're talking Fort Tarsis, I played through all the story missions and I must say they did nothing to assuage my fears about the story, or lack thereof. Perhaps this has to do with the fact that we started playing at level 10 and didn't get to interact with these characters from level 1. Still, I'm not hopeful.
- The UI is dreadful, so much so that I do my best to avoid it. Lore? No, thanks. It has obviously been designed for console, and it sucks because you could make a far less cluttered UI for PC.
- It's a bit annoying to have to return to Fort Tarsis to find out what loot you got. Why is that again?
- You only get XP+loot if you finish the match, what becomes a problem when you need to kill this game every time you see a loading screen. What leads me to...
- Too many loading screens.
- Either enemies are a little too bullet-spongy, or assault/sniper rifles suck, or both. I can't quite decide. Still, I suppose this will become less of a problem the more you level up your gear.
On the plus side, flying is pretty good (unless you're surrounded by enemies, in which case it's a death sentence) and the game looks nice, and that's about as kind as I can be right now after the stronghold fiasco. To be honest, I think I had more fun playing the ME3 MP, but it helped it was a lot smoother. I'll give it another go tomorrow.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 3:10:48 GMT
I was thisclose to finishing the spider mission solo … either got stupid or cocky at the end … so close.
Regardless …
I think I know part of the problem with swimming (BioWare, please check this out) … having less sensitive controls won't fix it. The problem is, when you make an input, the game treats that input as if it is on-going. So a turn … even though you have stopped the turn input, the game keeps turning. You have to zero out the turn signal to stop turning. It's like following a member of the Church of Our Lady of the Perpetual Left Turn. I think someone just flat out dorked up the input in swimming (at least for m+kb).
On another note, after they fixed the glitch on unlocking a Javelin, I finally got my Storm. I figured I'd try it out on the stronghold mission, so started a lobby, didn't have any friends on, so went public and started the mission. Had a squadmate for about 5 minutes, but then that person left. Did the first quieting mission solo, then the second solo, then went to the silencing mission in the caves … still no one. Finally, started the battle with the spider. Just had a sliver of health left on her … when I screwed up and died.
But the Storm … oh my gosh … the Storm rocks. I had the Scout Rifle and the hybrid sniper rifle … which I liked, but mostly, I used Storm's powers. It was glorious. It was awesome. It was fun. I am so very glad BioWare fixed the unlock bug. There is a learning curve, muscle memory is starting to kick in for wanting to fly, to dash (which is like a hovercraft mode), jump and fly. Swim sucks. In a major way. BioWare … you really need to fix that. But the Storm was so much fun. Ice has a quick cooldown … useful for lots of stuff and is a great primer. Lightening is a great detonator and helps take down shields as well. The Storm's third power … a barrier … takes some getting used to … but really came in handy in the cave silencing battle when the system was "recharging" and critters were attacking. And boy will the Storm be a help to teammates with priming. Also, like the Storm's ultimate far more than the Ranger's. Like I said, a bit of a learning curve, but what fun.
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Post by aznricepuff on Jan 27, 2019 3:41:38 GMT
The problem is, when you make an input, the game treats that input as if it is on-going. So a turn … even though you have stopped the turn input, the game keeps turning. You have to zero out the turn signal to stop turning. Flying is the same. In fact, the controls for flying and swimming are identical. Swimming just feels a lot worse because 1) it's a lot easier to get disoriented when swimming (a combination of dark-ass water and having little to no points of reference to orient yourself) and 2) your javelin seems to turn slower during swimming than flying. I also find it funny that so many people are complaining that swimming (and flying) controls are too sensitive. For me it's literally the exact opposite. The default sensitivities are way too sluggish. I upped sensitivities for both, lowered the "precision" setting to 0 to get rid of acceleration, and upped the "response" setting to 100% (which unfortunately still does not give you instant response). I'm at the point where flying is very natural to me now (swimming still sucks). But the Storm … oh my gosh … the Storm rocks. The Storm is definitely the most overpowered Javelin right now. It has AOE primers, AOE detonators, extremely high AOE DPS with ability spam, and decent survivability due to the fact that you can stay at long range and not lose any DPS (no damage dropoff with distance, and the autoaim on abilities makes aiming easy even at range). Every other Javelin is underwhelming compared to that. The Colossus is fine (it has great AOE DPS, insane survivability with the right gear, and decent priming). The ranger and interceptor are underwhelming. The ranger simply lacks any exciting abilities (one gear slot is literally just five different types of grenades...really?) or really anything to make it stand out. The interceptor has really cool movement options, but it doesn't really excel at anything (the storm can do more DPS to any single target using AoE abilities than the interceptor can using single-target DPS abilities; melee is fun until you realize it's useless against bosses and half the enemies in the game function in a manner that heavily discourages or even flat out prevents using melee attacks against them).
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Post by midnight tea on Jan 27, 2019 4:23:05 GMT
The problem is, when you make an input, the game treats that input as if it is on-going. So a turn … even though you have stopped the turn input, the game keeps turning. You have to zero out the turn signal to stop turning. Flying is the same. In fact, the controls for flying and swimming are identical. Swimming just feels a lot worse because 1) it's a lot easier to get disoriented when swimming (a combination of dark-ass water and having little to no points of reference to orient yourself) and 2) your javelin seems to turn slower during swimming than flying. I also find it funny that so many people are complaining that swimming (and flying) controls are too sensitive. For me it's literally the exact opposite. The default sensitivities are way too sluggish. I upped sensitivities for both, lowered the "precision" setting to 0 to get rid of acceleration, and upped the "response" setting to 100% (which unfortunately still does not give you instant response). I'm at the point where flying is very natural to me now (swimming still sucks) Different mouses and different settings for them, mate. I use Razer Naga Epic with mouses' sensitivity set fairly high in its native app - pair that with Anthem's 50% sensitivity and what's 'sluggish' for you turns to mayhem for me any time I move my mouse a few millimeters off the center. Had to lower sensitivity to 25% and up the precision. But I'll be probably tweaking controls until full game launches till I find an optimal setup on my 19 buttons (and after I fix some issues with the mouse itself) + we know that they've been tinkering with kb+m settings after the demo and the full game branched in December.
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Post by aznricepuff on Jan 27, 2019 4:32:19 GMT
Different mouses and different settings for them, mate. Yeah, true. I just found it amusing that literally everyone I talked to personally and every post I've read on the subject has the exact opposite opinion that I do. I would have expected at least one person to fall on my side just from statistics alone.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 6:46:29 GMT
The sluggish way things went in the Ft, I restored my mouse settings to their default "hyper" mode … that didn't work out in the wild. So I returned the mouse settings to much lower than normal settings … far lower than MEA or ME3 … it got most things back on track, except for swimming.
But I will try your idea of lowering the precision settings and upping the response settings in the game menu. If it fixes things, I will shout it from the roof tops … giving you full credit for making swimming work for me.
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Post by Kelwing on Jan 27, 2019 7:04:54 GMT
I agree swimming sucks. First time I hit the water in the stronghold. I died. I had no idea where to go it was so dark plus the movement was odd. Least until I saw what it was doing. Also I had to bump the brightness up which made it much better under water.
Ran that stronghold one last time before bed. That was the best run of the day. Wish I remembered who was in there. Smooth and damn near perfect without any comms. Ran the Ranger and found a setup that is just fun and brutal. Burns shields/armor down stupid fast.
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Post by OdanUrr on Jan 27, 2019 13:54:15 GMT
I think I've seen this video posted before but I couldn't track it down.
Anyway, I think I'm more in line with the glasses guy here insofar the story is concerned. Like he says, "There's no sense of character. There's no sense of belonging to that universe. Like, they try to tell you, like, 'Hey, man, remember when freelancers were treated like gods?' It's like, no, I don't. Like, I'm just kind of here now and no one likes us, and I'm expected to do everyone's dirty work. Okay. What a great life." That's exactly how I felt playing the story missions in the demo. Who am I beyond just another freelancer? Do I have any other goal beyond survival? Do I have any stakes in this?
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Post by majesticjazz on Jan 27, 2019 14:02:11 GMT
I think I've seen this video posted before but I couldn't track it down. Anyway, I think I'm more in line with the glasses guy here insofar the story is concerned. Like he says, "There's no sense of character. There's no sense of belonging to that universe. Like, they try to tell you, like, 'Hey, man, remember when freelancers were treated like gods?' It's like, no, I don't. Like, I'm just kind of here now and no one likes us, and I'm expected to do everyone's dirty work. Okay. What a great life." That's exactly how I felt playing the story missions in the demo. Who am I beyond just another freelancer? Do I have any other goal beyond survival? Do I have any stakes in this? Do not expect the story to be that deep, especially on the personal level. This isnt your standard SP/Character focused Bioware game so dont expect that. Angry Joe said the exact same thing.
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Post by OdanUrr on Jan 27, 2019 14:07:27 GMT
Do not expect the story to be that deep, especially on the personal level. This isnt your standard SP/Character focused Bioware game so dont expect that. Angry Joe said the exact same thing. But wouldn't that be the differentiating factor, what makes it stand out from other looter-shooters? Or is it solely relying on the verticality provided by the jetpack?
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Post by DragonRacer on Jan 27, 2019 14:20:18 GMT
For those mentioning the agonizingly slow walk in Fort Tarsis, BioWare has tweeted that there IS a sprint/jog option in main game but it is turned off for this demo. (Thank God it exists, because that was one of my first comments after the Alpha). I haven't unlocked a second Javelin yet because my XP seems to be going quite slowly. Not sure if that's Working As Intended™ or if I am just putting in less demo hours than others (the more likely case, given real life duties and distractions/guild leader duties of other games). The Storm sounds delicious judging by people's posts, as does the Interceptor. They sound kinda like the damage dealing glass cannons, yes? Ranger is kind of the average Joe soldier. And Colossus is like a Turian Sentinel/Juggernaut kind of a feel? Knowing my general playstyle of wanting to be the group tank/absorb damage/distract enemy while the squishy DD teammates kill it, my instinct is to try the Colossus once I finally unlock (which may be by open demo next weekend, we shall see). I revived my first teammate yesterday, which made me smile. I have the marksman rifle, which certainly looks like a Mattock and shoots like a Mattock, so that also makes me smile. I'm also really enjoying venom darts!
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Post by db9sherra on Jan 27, 2019 14:20:46 GMT
Finally I'm in
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Post by Felix on Jan 27, 2019 14:21:42 GMT
I hate swimming so much, can't get used to the damn thing. I just drowned three times during the same expedition. lol
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Post by Vortex13 on Jan 27, 2019 14:36:15 GMT
Played for about 25 minutes yesterday. Had to restart multiple times due to infinite loading screens. Got the sound bug and closed out of the game to restart... and now it refuses to start. Ever since the previous morning after clicking play on the xbox dashboard, and displaying the title splash card, the game just sits in a black screen. No BioWare/EA logo cinematic, no sound or music, nothing. I've even tried uninstalling then re-downloading the demo and it still displays the 'black screen of death'. Really not feeling much hype for this game to be honest.
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Post by acehilator on Jan 27, 2019 14:59:06 GMT
The buggy XP syncronisation between the world and Fort Tarsis is starting to REALLY annoy me. Cannot craft Level 19 items because I am stuck at Level 14.5 in FT, while being 15.99 outside. Same with Challenges, you cannot track your live progress in the Cortex during freeplay, but it is tracked in realtime anyways because if you fulfill a challenge, you get the notification while playing. The basic design principles behind those seperations are mindboggling, to say the least.
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Post by lennybusker on Jan 27, 2019 15:12:15 GMT
I hadn't had Shadowplay running for the first two days, finally turned it on for the FPS counter today. I have a 6700K and 1080Ti, display settings set to 2560 X 1440 @ 144 Hz. Advanced settings are mostly on high except for AA which I have off (never worth the framerate hit to me).
The title screen runs at less than 100 fps. Inside Fort Tarsis I'm at 60 fps inside the hallway areas and 30 in open air. Out in the world I'm barely touching 60, more like 40-50. Yikes. It's not a problem on my PC as I can run benchmarks from whatever other games and get normal results. This game is utterly unoptimized for PC. I've seen PS4 people saying that they're not even hitting 30 in open world, so it's apparently not confined to PC either.
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Post by smilesja on Jan 27, 2019 15:14:22 GMT
I think I've seen this video posted before but I couldn't track it down. Anyway, I think I'm more in line with the glasses guy here insofar the story is concerned. Like he says, "There's no sense of character. There's no sense of belonging to that universe. Like, they try to tell you, like, 'Hey, man, remember when freelancers were treated like gods?' It's like, no, I don't. Like, I'm just kind of here now and no one likes us, and I'm expected to do everyone's dirty work. Okay. What a great life." That's exactly how I felt playing the story missions in the demo. Who am I beyond just another freelancer? Do I have any other goal beyond survival? Do I have any stakes in this? Hah! I felt the opposite. The game actually had me more invested in the characters more than I can say for Destiny.
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Post by Kelwing on Jan 27, 2019 15:16:39 GMT
Just a note for AMD GPU users. I don't recommend the 19.1.2 drivers. Tried it and had some odd artifacts popping up. Which seemed to put shaded boxes around dust and such. Rolled driver back and installed 19.1.1 which worked perfect.
As for crafting. Where is this done at? I see a crafting menu when at vault but doesn't let me do anything.
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Post by hawkspian on Jan 27, 2019 15:29:44 GMT
I have to go to the mothers for Sunday dinner, does anyone know when the demo ends? In my head I have 5pm today for some reason.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jan 27, 2019 15:31:59 GMT
Did you play the closed alpha? I'd say more, but closed alpha NDA. For a demo 'in the middle' of the game, there's wisely no meaningful story content in this slice.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jan 27, 2019 15:32:38 GMT
I have to go to the mothers for Sunday dinner, does anyone know when the demo ends? In my head I have 5pm today for some reason. 2am UTC whatever that is where you are.
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Post by Beerfish on Jan 27, 2019 15:32:43 GMT
Just played a very brief bit for the 1st time this am. Game has possibilities, played on easy mode, i need to learn how to fl a bit better. could be a fun game, too early to tell.
They do have to fix those issues of loading stalls and such.
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