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Post by Sifr on Feb 21, 2019 23:03:02 GMT
I am a bit worried, but not too much. I am somehow surprised at how much crap Anthem is getting. Andromeda got a lot too. I think my "favorite" comments are those who want Anthem and BioWare to fail. Apparently that will get us another Dragon Age and Mass effect game somehow... Yeah, I kinda hate those types of comments from people. Even if I don't end up playing Anthem as it doesn't seem like it's my cup of tea, I do hope it does at least reasonably well. If Anthem suffers a similar reception and fate as MEA, that would be a damn shame, as I enjoyed MEA (despite some of it's flaws) and was sad they scrapped any planned DLC.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 23:27:41 GMT
I am a bit worried, but not too much. I am somehow surprised at how much crap Anthem is getting. Andromeda got a lot too. I think my "favorite" comments are those who want Anthem and BioWare to fail. Apparently that will get us another Dragon Age and Mass effect game somehow... Yeah, I kinda hate those types of comments from people. Even if I don't end up playing Anthem as it doesn't seem like it's my cup of tea, I do hope it does at least reasonably well. If Anthem suffers a similar reception and fate as MEA, that would be a damn shame, as I enjoyed MEA (despite some of it's flaws) and was sad they scrapped any planned DLC.
You literally make no sense. It's really funny.
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Post by Sifr on Feb 21, 2019 23:48:30 GMT
You literally make no sense. It's really funny. How so? I said that that I disliked seeing comments from people calling for Anthem/Bioware to fail, because I don't want to see any game fail and would be sad if that ended up being the case with Anthem.
Just because I won't be playing Anthem myself (because I'm not a fan of multiplayer) and I'm still unclear what the game is even about (would it have killed the devs to be less cryptic?), doesn't mean that I'm hating on the game. As I said before, it's not my cup of tea, but I hope it does well and that other people will enjoy playing it.
(I will take being called funny as a compliment, though, even if it wasn't intended as one)
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Post by thats1evildude on Feb 22, 2019 3:31:10 GMT
Ah, Dragon Age. Long have you been the maligned middle child of the BioWare family. You have been forced to run before you could walk. You have been ridiculed. You have been cast aside and you have been abandoned. Where was your N7 Day? Where was your huge marketing push? Where was your big budget live-action trailers? But now the other children have failed. The empire lies in ruins. If BioWare is not lost already — and it may very well be — then the last, desperate hope of this studio falls to you.
Maker help us all.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 22, 2019 3:46:56 GMT
Ah, Dragon Age. Long have you been the maligned middle child of the BioWare family. You have been forced to run before you could walk. You have been ridiculed. You have been cast aside and you have been abandoned. Where was your N7 Day? Where was your huge marketing push? Where was your big budget live-action trailers? But now the other children have failed. The empire lies in ruins. If BioWare is not lost already — and it may very well be — then the last, desperate hope of this studio falls to you.
Maker help us all.
This line made me the whole thing in Duncan's voice.
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Post by thats1evildude on Feb 22, 2019 3:54:37 GMT
I totally was thinking of him when wrote it. God’s honest truth.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Feb 22, 2019 17:29:49 GMT
I truly believe so. BioWare is firmly dead, anthem was a failure critically. And I believe that failure will translate to low sales and the final killing blow of BioWare. They had 7 YEARS to make a good product and they came up with a trend chasing shitty shooter that reuses the same assets from andromeda including the gunplay and jet packs. What the hell? Instead of making a da4 or a true mass Effect 4 or maybe a jade 2 we get this crap. Another soulless useless game that doesn’t change anything. I’m glad it’s bombing. This is the third time BioWare has released an inferior product and frankly that’s it. BioWare needs to hang up, give its IPs to more competent studios. Maybe Austin can survive into something else but Edmonton is finished.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 22, 2019 17:43:12 GMT
I truly believe so. BioWare is firmly dead, anthem was a failure critically. And I believe that failure will translate to low sales and the final killing blow of BioWare. They had 7 YEARS to make a good product and they came up with a trend chasing shitty shooter that reuses the same assets from andromeda including the gunplay and jet packs. What the hell? Instead of making a da4 or a true mass Effect 4 or maybe a jade 2 we get this crap. Another soulless useless game that doesn’t change anything. I’m glad it’s bombing. This is the third time BioWare has released an inferior product and frankly that’s it. BioWare needs to hang up, give its IPs to more competent studios. Maybe Austin can survive into something else but Edmonton is finished.
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Post by Little Bengel on Feb 22, 2019 18:45:48 GMT
I truly believe so. BioWare is firmly dead, anthem was a failure critically. And I believe that failure will translate to low sales and the final killing blow of BioWare. They had 7 YEARS to make a good product and they came up with a trend chasing shitty shooter that reuses the same assets from andromeda including the gunplay and jet packs. What the hell? Instead of making a da4 or a true mass Effect 4 or maybe a jade 2 we get this crap. Another soulless useless game that doesn’t change anything. I’m glad it’s bombing. This is the third time BioWare has released an inferior product and frankly that’s it. BioWare needs to hang up, give its IPs to more competent studios. Maybe Austin can survive into something else but Edmonton is finished. Is this the fabled Dutch I heard about? ...hi.
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Post by Polka Dot on Feb 22, 2019 21:02:15 GMT
I'm not concerned about whether DA4 will be released, though I do have some misgivings about the form it will take. Mostly due to this whole GaaS thing that seems to be all the rage, and I wonder what that might mean for DA.
As for Anthem, it's off to a pretty rough start. The review numbers are tepid (at best), and that has to hurt sales. I'm sure the team will continue to patch bugs and try to make various other improvements, release additional content, etc. - but overall, I expect it'll end up short of reaching the goals they set for it. I admit I'm feeling a bit bad for the folks at BioWare atm, as I'm sure they're taking some pretty tough hits to their morale.
There might be some good news, though, buried in here. If this whole experience leads them to conclude that the best thing for them to do now is to return to form with a really strong SP narrative-focused DA4 - and plan a new future for ME - we could potentially get back the BioWare we've known and loved for so long (or at least a reasonable facsimile).
I've seen some discussion (on the Anthem board) with people suggesting they should ditch Frostbite. Frostbite was never really designed to support RPG development, and many modifications to it were made during DAI's development. Whether it fully allows BioWare to do all of the things they'd like it to do is questionable. Maybe it would be better for them to drop it.
I'm not going to get myself wrapped up in expectations, either way. I'll continue to re-play their previous games and explore some other titles, too. Meanwhile, I'll be very interested to watch the progress of all things Bioware.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2019 21:12:02 GMT
You literally make no sense. It's really funny. How so? I said that that I disliked seeing comments from people calling for Anthem/Bioware to fail, because I don't want to see any game fail and would be sad if that ended up being the case with Anthem.
Just because I won't be playing Anthem myself (because I'm not a fan of multiplayer) and I'm still unclear what the game is even about (would it have killed the devs to be less cryptic?), doesn't mean that I'm hating on the game. As I said before, it's not my cup of tea, but I hope it does well and that other people will enjoy playing it.
(I will take being called funny as a compliment, though, even if it wasn't intended as one) So it's not your cup of tea, but you dislike comments simply because it reminds you of Andromeda, while you aren't even interested by the reasons why they might not support this game. hum. I personally find that fanboy attitude funny, yes. If a game is bad or meh, it is bad or meh ( I assume you didn't play the game from your comment ), it's stupid to wish its success. I'm really amazed by that type of dumb comment from some. If there are people who enjoy it, good for them. But if you don't play this game and aren't aware of its flaws, if you aren't interested, if you think it is lame, you have NO reason to wish its success. People that hate the game at least played it and know what they are talking about. Why would anyone support a buggy, messy and glitchy soulless game with poor writing ? By supporting these games, people are kinda willing that all the companies bring that type of shit on players. I don't know, by being severe toward that type of things, maybe the companies will make more efforts to not release buggy soulless games like this. Yes. Sorry, not sorry for Bioware. They spent 7 years on that shit, instead of working on Dragon age ( delayed ) and Mass effect ( badly affected ). For what results ? For that crap. Ridiculous. The good thing is maybe that Bioware will learn a few lessons.
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Post by inquisitor007 on Feb 22, 2019 21:15:45 GMT
Why don't they do something like Red Dead Online, where after the main game you can just roam around the open world in a multiplayer setting? It could be like Elder Scrolls Online, but Dragon Age.
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Post by slimgrin727 on Feb 22, 2019 21:26:56 GMT
I'd say there is now immense pressure for DA4 to deliver. Mass Effect is dead and Anthem is DOA. Good news is DA:I was well received so maybe the better talent is on that team, but I don't think Bioware has infinite opportunities here to show EA they can make competent games.
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Post by colfoley on Feb 23, 2019 1:52:46 GMT
I think people need to look up what the word 'dead' means. Anthem is still coming out and BioWare/EA has made literally no indications that they plan on changing their post launch plans for releasing more content in the game over the coming months, and maybe years. You know the whole 'live' service thing.
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Post by Sifr on Feb 23, 2019 7:40:16 GMT
So it's not your cup of tea, but you dislike comments simply because it reminds you of Andromeda, while you aren't even interested by the reasons why they might not support this game. hum. I personally find that fanboy attitude funny, yes. If a game is bad or meh, it is bad or meh ( I assume you didn't play the game from your comment ), it's stupid to wish its success. I'm really amazed by that type of dumb comment from some. If there are people who enjoy it, good for them. But if you don't play this game and aren't aware of its flaws, if you aren't interested, if you think it is lame, you have NO reason to wish its success. I'm sorry, how exactly does it make me a "fanboy" to say I dislike overtly negative comments from people wanting Bioware and their latest games to tank? Surely we wouldn't all be here, on an unofficial forum created after the official ones shut down, if we weren't in some way fans of Bioware games?
How I feel about Bioware as a company is completely different to any appreciation (or lack thereof) towards certain games they've produced. No game of Bioware's is without it's flaws and the company itself has occasionally made some decisions that I dislike, especially how the devs have seemed to distance themselves from the fan community after the backlash from ME3's ending.
Just because I'm not playing Anthem, why should that discount me from wishing that it succeeds, if not critically, then at least financially to justify all the time/expense put into it? You may not read every book written by an author, but that doesn't mean you want them to quit writing... nor do you hope a film will flop, just because you aren't going to see it in the theatre.
If Anthem does well, that's good. If it doesn't, that sucks. That is the full extent of my interest regarding Anthem.
My dislike for the the overly-negative comments are more about how they aren't constructive in any way. I'm not saying that people can't dislike Anthem, but I'd prefer people gave reasons why they do and what they think it failed at. Simply putting "Anthem sucks" and doomsaying "this is the end of Bioware" isn't all that helpful to anyone. Why does the game suck and what could Bioware have done better?!
Honestly I'm more confused why Anthem wasn't merged with Andromeda, given how insanely similar their basic plots seem to be? Why not have made Anthem a stealth-sequel, where these are descendants of colonists that left the Milky Way on the Ark ships?
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Post by grallon on Feb 25, 2019 2:59:28 GMT
The reviews of Anthem I've seen so far are rather lackluster... I'm concerned the game might not be sufficiently profitable to warrant a lease on life for DA4, despite DAI's relative success.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Feb 25, 2019 3:20:28 GMT
I am a bit worried, but not too much. I am somehow surprised at how much crap Anthem is getting. Andromeda got a lot too. I think my "favorite" comments are those who want Anthem and BioWare to fail. Apparently that will get us another Dragon Age and Mass effect game somehow... I did post in the Anthem skepticism thread, but since then I've played it solo more and it's growing on me. Long story short, I think DA4 will be made. Hopefully it will have a strong focus on the single player campaign. I'm ok with multiplayer, but not it being the whole game. Yeah I picked Anthem up last night downloaded and played it a bit today although I've only done a couple of missions so far. I don't find it as good as ME or DA but I think that's possibly because those series have had several games to get to where they are whereas Anthem hasn't. I don't think Anthem is as gripping as ME or DA. But yeah I've only played Anthem solo so far. The combat is quite good fun and challenging but story wise I'm not too sure yet. TBH after what happened with MEA Bioware's closure should it happen will most likely kill any chance of any sequels for both ME and possibly DA too. Obviously with DAI being received well I hope we do get a DA4 and I believe that as long as Anthem does OK we should get it. Personally whilst I know Bioware has said ME isn't dead I'm more concerned for that one than I am DA
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Post by duckley on Feb 25, 2019 5:18:35 GMT
I really hoped Anthem would be successful, although not a game genre I would play. Reviews are mediocre at best, although it seems that there are those who like the game and are playing it. I don't understand why another game was released with apparently so many issues, just like MEA. Seems a little self-defeating no?
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Post by wright1978 on Feb 25, 2019 8:55:42 GMT
The reviews of Anthem I've seen so far are rather lackluster... I'm concerned the game might not be sufficiently profitable to warrant a lease on life for DA4, despite DAI's relative success. I'm relieved at its mediocre launch. As much as i want DA4 i want a SP RPG DA4 not an anthemised one.
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Post by thats1evildude on Feb 25, 2019 9:30:26 GMT
The reviews of Anthem I've seen so far are rather lackluster... I'm concerned the game might not be sufficiently profitable to warrant a lease on life for DA4, despite DAI's relative success. I'm relieved at its mediocre launch. As much as i want DA4 i want a SP RPG DA4 not an anthemised one. I have to agree. If Anthem had been a huge success, then we could have expected the formula to repeat in DA4, or for EA to pull the plug on Dragon Age entirely and devote all resources to Anthem. There is now the possibility of EA shuttering BioWare or laying off staff as punishment, of course. I’ll be sad if that happens. But it might also prompt some higher-up at EA to take a light touch on DA4 and abandon plans to turn into some lootbox-laden live service monstrosity.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Feb 25, 2019 9:39:25 GMT
I think what's really important is to demonstrate that there's still a market for single-player RPGs by buying those kinds of games.
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Post by colfoley on Feb 25, 2019 10:30:54 GMT
I'm relieved at its mediocre launch. As much as i want DA4 i want a SP RPG DA4 not an anthemised one. I have to agree. If Anthem had been a huge success, then we could have expected the formula to repeat in DA4, or for EA to pull the plug on Dragon Age entirely and devote all resources to Anthem. There is now the possibility of EA shuttering BioWare or laying off staff as punishment, of course. I’ll be sad if that happens. But it might also prompt some higher-up at EA to take a light touch on DA4 and abandon plans to turn into some lootbox-laden live service monstrosity. well it already is going to be that anyways so *shrug.* i mean reading some things they already delayed DA 4 to make it live service and they stopped supporting Andromeda because they COULDN'T make it live service, EA wont just pick up roots now. Of course though I have no fear, all LS games ive played, ive at least liked and some were awesome so...
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Post by Iddy on Feb 25, 2019 13:54:12 GMT
I have to agree. If Anthem had been a huge success, then we could have expected the formula to repeat in DA4, or for EA to pull the plug on Dragon Age entirely and devote all resources to Anthem. There is now the possibility of EA shuttering BioWare or laying off staff as punishment, of course. I’ll be sad if that happens. But it might also prompt some higher-up at EA to take a light touch on DA4 and abandon plans to turn into some lootbox-laden live service monstrosity. well it already is going to be that anyways so *shrug.* i mean reading some things they already delayed DA 4 to make it live service and they stopped supporting Andromeda because they COULDN'T make it live service, EA wont just pick up roots now. Of course though I have no fear, all LS games ive played, ive at least liked and some were awesome so... What is live service?
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Feb 25, 2019 14:11:32 GMT
well it already is going to be that anyways so *shrug.* i mean reading some things they already delayed DA 4 to make it live service and they stopped supporting Andromeda because they COULDN'T make it live service, EA wont just pick up roots now. Of course though I have no fear, all LS games ive played, ive at least liked and some were awesome so... What is live service? A boogieman around these parts, even though it's necessary for any sort of game of this scope nowadays developed in North America. A live service is a design paradigm where content continues to be released after launch. It's already existed for any game that has ever had DLC. Production costs are high as ever. Development takes a lot longer than it used to because of increased standards. Yet games have stayed the same price.
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Post by Iddy on Feb 25, 2019 14:45:34 GMT
A boogieman around these parts, even though it's necessary for any sort of game of this scope nowadays developed in North America. A live service is a design paradigm where content continues to be released after launch. It's already existed for any game that has ever had DLC. Production costs are high as ever. Development takes a lot longer than it used to because of increased standards. Yet games have stayed the same price. Oh. I'm okay with that. The alternative would be waiting much longer to get the game.
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