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Post by lennybusker on Feb 22, 2019 19:45:23 GMT
Some more 50s have come in and Anthem is now at 60. That's fuckin rough.
I still believe that Fallout 76 is what finally woke pro reviewers up.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Feb 22, 2019 19:46:01 GMT
MS is done buying studios though. not necessarily...they could simply pick.up the talent and send them to the coalition as a separate division >talent >current day BioWare LOL
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Post by ahglock on Feb 22, 2019 19:47:57 GMT
Yeah I guess books don’t have stories anymore since we invented movies. Being delivered via a recording doesn’t make it less of a story than a character delivering it. And actually imo made it a more powerful delivery for a after the bomb setting. The story in fallout 76 while not nearly as robust as their SP games is creepy, and interesting. Fallout 76 has piles of issues, but the core story is actually interesting to follow even if short with not nearly enough diversions. I think it was a very lazy design decision but Fallout dose nothing for me so can't say I'm all that concerned. It probably was the lazy choice as for why it was done. But, I think it works in this instance. I had multiple times where the back of my neck my hairs would do that tingly stand on end thing because it was presented in such a creepy fashion. If the gameplay wasn’t such bug ridden ass it might of been a good game. Edit to add when I say bug ridden ass take into account I don’t knock other Bethesda games or mea launch version for their bugs. I may note them but they don’t effect my enjoyment. Fallout 76 was that rough on gameplay choices and bugs.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Feb 22, 2019 19:54:05 GMT
not necessarily...they could simply pick.up the talent and send them to the coalition as a separate division >talent >current day BioWare LOL be nice lol
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Post by Sartoz on Feb 22, 2019 19:54:06 GMT
Some more 50s have come in and Anthem is now at 60. That's fuckin rough. I still believe that Fallout 76 is what finally woke pro reviewers up.
Yeah, that's tough.
Does anyone have a breakdown of which score is based on what version of the game? That can explain some of the low scores.
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Post by Doc on Feb 22, 2019 19:55:07 GMT
Some more 50s have come in and Anthem is now at 60. That's fuckin rough. I still believe that Fallout 76 is what finally woke pro reviewers up. Agreed; the reviews for FO76 were too lenient to ignore. Broke a lot of trust. Anthem is still seeing more leniency than I expected for a Colonial Marines level marketing misdirect, but at least no one's outright lying about the state of the game.
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Post by smilesja on Feb 22, 2019 19:56:51 GMT
So is it safe to say this game is hot garbage? To you.
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Post by bigbad on Feb 22, 2019 19:59:25 GMT
Some more 50s have come in and Anthem is now at 60. That's fuckin rough. I still believe that Fallout 76 is what finally woke pro reviewers up.
Yeah, that's tough.
Does anyone have a breakdown of which score is based on what version of the game? That can explain some of the low scores.
It doesn't really matter, IMO. I played both before and after the patch, and the patch didn't fix much for me and made some things even worse.
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Post by Doc on Feb 22, 2019 20:00:01 GMT
Does anyone have a breakdown of which score is based on what version of the game? That can explain some of the low scores. [/div][/quote] No breakdown, but it looks like the scores are getting lower as time goes on. The patch didn't help; it brought back some bugs while fixing others. The damage control liveatream probably backfired.
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Post by Pounce de León on Feb 22, 2019 20:01:02 GMT
If BioWare were to close, would you feel sad? Ye, what would happen to you? We can't have that.
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Post by Sartoz on Feb 22, 2019 20:02:34 GMT
When I like a Bio game, I couldn't care less what Metacritic has to say.
Worrisome, though, is the longevity of the game with such a low score ( as of Feb 22, 3PM EST). EA has a history of cutting losses real quick.
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Post by alanc9 on Feb 22, 2019 20:05:45 GMT
OTOH, they kept TOR around forever. Remember when TORTanic was going to destroy Bio, until everybody sort of forgot that it existed at all?
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Post by wright1978 on Feb 22, 2019 20:05:52 GMT
If BioWare were to close, would you feel sad? Yes of course. hoping for a big enough jolt to get them focusing on sp rpg rather than looter shooter with story veneer.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Feb 22, 2019 20:08:22 GMT
If BioWare were to close, would you feel sad? Ye, what would happen to you? We can't have that. If their IPs get transferred over to more compentent studios and not shelved it wouldn’t be bad tbqb
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Post by Pounce de León on Feb 22, 2019 20:13:42 GMT
Ye, what would happen to you? We can't have that. If their IPs get transferred over to more compentent studios and not shelved it wouldn’t be bad tbqb Wishful thinking. You know what EA did to Command&Conquer, right?
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Feb 22, 2019 20:15:14 GMT
If their IPs get transferred over to more compentent studios and not shelved it wouldn’t be bad tbqb Wishful thinking. You know what EA did to Command&Conquer, right? RTS are dead for the most part. Single player rpgs are still wildly popular.
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Post by shinobiwan on Feb 22, 2019 20:29:55 GMT
Ye, what would happen to you? We can't have that. If their IPs get transferred over to more compentent studios and not shelved it wouldn’t be bad tbqb I can't think of an EA studio that would do justice to these IPs.
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Post by Steelcan on Feb 22, 2019 20:36:37 GMT
Wishful thinking. You know what EA did to Command&Conquer, right? RTS are dead for the most part. Single player rpgs are still wildly popular. but they aren't
RTS games like AoE2 are still popular enough to get DLC two decades after they launched. Paradox strategy games are pretty popular (CK2 has over 1 million copies sold). AAA RTS is dead, but the genre as a whole is fine.
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Post by Arcian on Feb 22, 2019 21:02:17 GMT
OTOH, they kept TOR around forever. Remember when TORTanic was going to destroy Bio, until everybody sort of forgot that it existed at all?
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Post by biggydx on Feb 22, 2019 21:07:47 GMT
Some more 50s have come in and Anthem is now at 60. That's fuckin rough. I still believe that Fallout 76 is what finally woke pro reviewers up.
Yeah, that's tough.
Does anyone have a breakdown of which score is based on what version of the game? That can explain some of the low scores.
PC I believe
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Post by evilfluffmonster on Feb 22, 2019 22:13:46 GMT
The thing I dislike about a lot of the reviews, is that a good many of the things they pick up on were very prevalent in other games that got very high ratings.
Someone in one of my clan discords said a guy had blasted through all the story in 13 hrs. Destinys story could be completed in 6! All everyone ended up doing was dailys, nightfalls and weekly raids for the same loot - and people loved it and it got great reviews!
Bear in mind the first chapter of the story doesn't start till March - the average person buying the game on launch day is going to be just fine waiting a couple of weeks for new content. Most people wont even be levelled enough by then.
These reviewers saying "ive spent 50 hours this week playing Anthem and ive run out of content" ..well the clue is in their own words! They have valid points - like needing better variety in the missions and freeplay objectives.
Bioware used to read criticism like this on the forums and went out of their way to improve things in the next update. Now, click-bait youtube reviews say the same things but stop people buying the game instead, rather than get the issues fixed without destroying the prospective fan base..
They can add new content, weapons, dialogue, customisation fix bugs etc - in fact they PLAN to! Its likely the content is just metered out across updates, like every other game of its ilk.
People are judging it as a full RPG experience like Mass Effect or Dragon Age..but its basically just like most MMORPG's ive ever played only you pay you entry fee at once rather than a FTP model or a monthly subscription. The bread and butter of this game type is doing the same stuff over and over for better loot - its always been very repetitive and grindy.
Theres lots of genuine issues, but goodness theres a lot of absolute rubbish floating about in these reviews.
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Post by linksocarina on Feb 22, 2019 22:27:48 GMT
The thing I dislike about a lot of the reviews, is that a good many of the things they pick up on were very prevalent in other games that got very high ratings. Someone in one of my clan discords said a guy had blasted through all the story in 13 hrs. Destinys story could be completed in 6! All everyone ended up doing was dailys, nightfalls and weekly raids for the same loot - and people loved it and it got great reviews! Bear in mind the first chapter of the story doesn't start till March - the average person buying the game on launch day is going to be just fine waiting a couple of weeks for new content. Most people wont even be levelled enough by then. These reviewers saying "ive spent 50 hours this week playing Anthem and ive run out of content" ..well the clue is in their own words! They have valid points - like needing better variety in the missions and freeplay objectives. Bioware used to read criticism like this on the forums and went out of their way to improve things in the next update. Now, click-bait youtube reviews say the same things but stop people buying the game instead, rather than get the issues fixed without destroying the prospective fan base.. They can add new content, weapons, dialogue, customisation fix bugs etc - in fact they PLAN to! Its likely the content is just metered out across updates, like every other game of its ilk. People are judging it as a full RPG experience like Mass Effect or Dragon Age..but its basically just like most MMORPG's ive ever played only you pay you entry fee at once rather than a FTP model or a monthly subscription. The bread and butter of this game type is doing the same stuff over and over for better loot - its always been very repetitive and grindy. Theres lots of genuine issues, but goodness theres a lot of absolute rubbish floating about in these reviews. A lot of it does boil down to the reviewer of course, but the problem with criticism in aggregate is mostly an issue of lacking rigor in the writing and critique in general. I have advocated for critics to improve that for a while now. If more are a bit more specific of what their problems are, it would go a long way for constructive critique. Why is it that 13 hours in Anthem, for example, is less fun than 6 hours in Destiny, if that was a criticism they needed to make. That would be nice. It's just hard to do and most people either lack the skill to bring that into the conversation or, more maliciously, don't care for various reasons. We need better critics for stronger reviews to really spell out the problems, and not put their own baggage into the mix.
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Post by lennybusker on Feb 22, 2019 22:40:13 GMT
The thing I dislike about a lot of the reviews, is that a good many of the things they pick up on were very prevalent in other games that got very high ratings. Someone in one of my clan discords said a guy had blasted through all the story in 13 hrs. Destinys story could be completed in 6! All everyone ended up doing was dailys, nightfalls and weekly raids for the same loot - and people loved it and it got great reviews! Bear in mind the first chapter of the story doesn't start till March - the average person buying the game on launch day is going to be just fine waiting a couple of weeks for new content. Most people wont even be levelled enough by then. These reviewers saying "ive spent 50 hours this week playing Anthem and ive run out of content" ..well the clue is in their own words! They have valid points - like needing better variety in the missions and freeplay objectives. Bioware used to read criticism like this on the forums and went out of their way to improve things in the next update. Now, click-bait youtube reviews say the same things but stop people buying the game instead, rather than get the issues fixed without destroying the prospective fan base.. They can add new content, weapons, dialogue, customisation fix bugs etc - in fact they PLAN to! Its likely the content is just metered out across updates, like every other game of its ilk. People are judging it as a full RPG experience like Mass Effect or Dragon Age..but its basically just like most MMORPG's ive ever played only you pay you entry fee at once rather than a FTP model or a monthly subscription. The bread and butter of this game type is doing the same stuff over and over for better loot - its always been very repetitive and grindy. Theres lots of genuine issues, but goodness theres a lot of absolute rubbish floating about in these reviews. A lot of it does boil down to the reviewer of course, but the problem with criticism in aggregate is mostly an issue of lacking rigor in the writing and critique in general. I have advocated for critics to improve that for a while now. If more are a bit more specific of what their problems are, it would go a long way for constructive critique. Why is it that 13 hours in Anthem, for example, is less fun than 6 hours in Destiny, if that was a criticism they needed to make. That would be nice. It's just hard to do and most people either lack the skill to bring that into the conversation or, more maliciously, don't care for various reasons. We need better critics for stronger reviews to really spell out the problems, and not put their own baggage into the mix. I generally despise youtubers as a whole but one thing I will give them over pro reviewers is that the guys who really play the shit out of these games know what they're talking about and dig into the details of the game, which is important to me. For example I haven't seen any of the actual pro reviewers mention things like the mismatched inscription effects that have no effect and make no sense, the abbreviated and confusing descriptions in the UI, and the lackluster masterwork effects. But most of the deep dive youtubers have indeed jumped into that, and while most of them eschew traditional ratings in their reviews, they typically end up sounding much more harsh on Anthem than someone who essentially only covers the bare basics. Which is deserved, IMO.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 22, 2019 23:07:24 GMT
He's claimed this before. Turned out to be a lie if i heard correctly. If so, why should he be believed this time?
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