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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 18, 2019 16:45:08 GMT
Feels strange to do Virmire before Feros, and makes less sense. I may just have to live with not being able to talk down Jeong, especially if it doesn't have any ME2/ME3 repercussions. Yeah I realized I must have had bonus charm, xp points when I played many times on console, and this is first time on PC so no bonuses. I do Virmire before Therum. Personal preference. I'm not a huge Liara fan so having her bring together what was learned from the beacon and the cipher made the most sense over her repeatedly trying to make sense of the beacon.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2019 17:18:33 GMT
Feels strange to do Virmire before Feros, and makes less sense. I may just have to live with not being able to talk down Jeong, especially if it doesn't have any ME2/ME3 repercussions. Yeah I realized I must have had bonus charm, xp points when I played many times on console, and this is first time on PC so no bonuses. I do Virmire before Therum. Personal preference. I'm not a huge Liara fan so having her bring together what was learned from the beacon and the cipher made the most sense over her repeatedly trying to make sense of the beacon. Within the context of this particular issue (i.e. getting enough charm points to be able to avoid shooting Ethan Jeong), it means that Feros cannot be done after Virmire since Virmire only unlocks after two other main plot worlds are completed. Since Therum offers the player absolutely no paragon or renegade points, doing it last essentially ensures that Jeong would have to be shot (unless the player manages to gather every other available paragon point outside of Feros and Virmire). Most likely, they would also have to do BDtS in a totally paragon way (which means letting both Charn and Balak go free).
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 18, 2019 19:30:15 GMT
I do Virmire before Therum. Personal preference. I'm not a huge Liara fan so having her bring together what was learned from the beacon and the cipher made the most sense over her repeatedly trying to make sense of the beacon. Within the context of this particular issue (i.e. getting enough charm points to be able to avoid shooting Ethan Jeong), it means that Feros cannot be done after Virmire since Virmire only unlocks after two other main plot worlds are completed. Since Therum offers the player absolutely no paragon or renegade points, doing it last essentially ensures that Jeong would have to be shot (unless the player manages to gather every other available paragon point outside of Feros and Virmire). Most likely, they would also have to do BDtS in a totally paragon way (which means letting both Charn and Balak go free). I don't believe I typically shoot Jeong. Not that I mind. Guy would wipe out the colonists in the name of corporate greed.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2019 21:26:34 GMT
Within the context of this particular issue (i.e. getting enough charm points to be able to avoid shooting Ethan Jeong), it means that Feros cannot be done after Virmire since Virmire only unlocks after two other main plot worlds are completed. Since Therum offers the player absolutely no paragon or renegade points, doing it last essentially ensures that Jeong would have to be shot (unless the player manages to gather every other available paragon point outside of Feros and Virmire). Most likely, they would also have to do BDtS in a totally paragon way (which means letting both Charn and Balak go free). I don't believe I typically shoot Jeong. Not that I mind. Guy would wipe out the colonists in the name of corporate greed. Are you playing a fresh start game or a new game plus because if it's a fresh start game, you need 244 paragon points to unlock the 11th and 12th slot to be able to get your charm points to 12 in order to talk Jeong down. While I don't think it's not impossible to accumulate that many points using only Noveria and all the available UNC and Citadel assignments, there really isn't much margin for missing out on any of those available points. I'd have to do an actual breakdown to be absolutely sure since I don't usually play anywhere close to a pure paragon PC and it has been awhile since I've played ME1 at all... so I'll get back to you with the actual maximum paragon points you can get with just doing Noveria and without BDtS.
ETA: OK, by the numbers, it's not a tight as I was thinking. The absolute maximum number of paragon points you can acquire in ME1 with only doing Noveria is 337, with 72 of those points being tied to 3 key decision on Noveria: 1) Charming Lorik Qui'in (24 pts); 2) Making the Cure (24 pts); & 3) Saving Rachni Queen (24 pots). Your background is worth a maximum of 20 paragon points (if you are a Spacer War Hero). You must invest 7 level up points into Charm.
There are a further 40 paragon points available on Feros itself before you encounter Jeong, but even if you've filled 10 charm to that point, you'll still have to make sure you have 1 level up point to invest in charm available to fill the 12th slot (11th with fill with a free point).
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 19, 2019 1:10:43 GMT
You must invest 7 level up points into Charm. I typically max my charm points and disperse the rest elsewhere.
Totally unrelated: Why no avatar? Something changed at one point where I noticed that a lot of avatars disappeared. Then some people's returned but not yours.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 8:08:37 GMT
You must invest 7 level up points into Charm. I typically max my charm points and disperse the rest elsewhere.
Totally unrelated: Why no avatar? Something changed at one point where I noticed that a lot of avatars disappeared. Then some people's returned but not yours.
My first avatar was a site one (Hackett) and I've never been able to figure out how to get him back. The option to access the generic Mass Effect avatars for this site just doesn't seem to be there at all for me now... so I'm the generic "Ryder" twins, I guess.
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 19, 2019 13:30:26 GMT
I typically max my charm points and disperse the rest elsewhere.
Totally unrelated: Why no avatar? Something changed at one point where I noticed that a lot of avatars disappeared. Then some people's returned but not yours.
My first avatar was a site one (Hackett) and I've never been able to figure out how to get him back. The option to access the generic Mass Effect avatars for this site just doesn't seem to be there at all for me now... so I'm the generic "Ryder" twins, I guess. I can't even see that. It's just two shadowy figures.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 13:32:55 GMT
My first avatar was a site one (Hackett) and I've never been able to figure out how to get him back. The option to access the generic Mass Effect avatars for this site just doesn't seem to be there at all for me now... so I'm the generic "Ryder" twins, I guess. I can't even see that. It's just two shadowy figures. What - no imagination? Basic serious answer is that I can no longer find either my Hackett avatar nor the one I created using a drawing app that was on the sign-up page at one time.
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 19, 2019 14:01:16 GMT
I can't even see that. It's just two shadowy figures. What - no imagination? Basic serious answer is that I can no longer find either my Hackett avatar nor the one I created using a drawing app that was on the sign-up page at one time. Looks like two guys. Anyway, I'd just sub something else in. Even another Hackett.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 14:57:10 GMT
What - no imagination? Basic serious answer is that I can no longer find either my Hackett avatar nor the one I created using a drawing app that was on the sign-up page at one time. Looks like two guys. Anyway, I'd just sub something else in. Even another Hackett. Sorry if the default offends you. I'll take it under consideration... but probably not bother.
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 19, 2019 15:15:09 GMT
Looks like two guys. Anyway, I'd just sub something else in. Even another Hackett. Sorry if the default offends you. I'll take it under consideration... but probably not bother. It doesn't offend me. It was something I noticed happened fairly recently to a number of people. I was more curious as to how it came about.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 15:36:13 GMT
Sorry if the default offends you. I'll take it under consideration... but probably not bother. It doesn't offend me. It was something I noticed happened fairly recently to a number of people. I was more curious as to how it came about. In my case, though, it wasn't recent. I've had this default avatar for, what, over a year now? I honestly can't say whether the cause of others recently losing avatars is at all the same.
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Post by Nightlife on Mar 20, 2019 6:12:46 GMT
It doesn't offend me. It was something I noticed happened fairly recently to a number of people. I was more curious as to how it came about. In my case, though, it wasn't recent. I've had this default avatar for, what, over a year now? I honestly can't say whether the cause of others recently losing avatars is at all the same. Hey if you would like a new Hackett avatar, use this pic I think it's perfect. Right off the Wiki. Just d/l to your desktop then u can change ur avatar.
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 20, 2019 6:34:25 GMT
Hey if you would like a new Hackett avatar, use this pic I think it's perfect. Right off the Wiki. Just d/l to your desktop then u can change ur avatar. I've always loved your Shepard avatar.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2019 17:16:24 GMT
In my case, though, it wasn't recent. I've had this default avatar for, what, over a year now? I honestly can't say whether the cause of others recently losing avatars is at all the same. Hey if you would like a new Hackett avatar, use this pic I think it's perfect. Right off the Wiki. Just d/l to your desktop then u can change ur avatar. I talked with a young friend who has some art talent. She's going to draw me a unique Hackett-based avatar. I promise I'll upload it when she's done.
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Post by Nightlife on Mar 22, 2019 6:54:31 GMT
Hey if you would like a new Hackett avatar, use this pic I think it's perfect. Right off the Wiki. Just d/l to your desktop then u can change ur avatar. I've always loved your Shepard avatar. It's one of the sexy male sheps I could find. Gay player here, surprise!
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 22, 2019 8:00:29 GMT
I've always loved your Shepard avatar. It's one of the sexy male sheps I could find. Gay player here, surprise! I suspected. Not like you could tell anything from my Kaidan/BroShep avatars that I periodically change up.
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