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Post by vertigomez on Oct 25, 2016 14:29:33 GMT
I would die horribly and painfully, presumably from disease or sudden violence or eating the wrong plant or any number of other things.
If I didn't die immediately, I could probably make a paltry living as a Stitches-style healer. 'Cause I work in hospitals.
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Post by vertigomez on Oct 25, 2016 14:32:32 GMT
I mean, there is Tevene, "english", the Qunari language, elven... Honestly, I don't know why the dwarves don't have their own language. Those dwarves that have been with the Titans for over a thousand years seemed to speak another language, you couldn't understand a word they were muttering in the darkness. What about Fog Warriors? The Avvars seem to speak "english" as well. But they and the dwarves have words that are very specific to their culture. so it seems "english" is more of a TRADE language they've all become fluent in. Maybe their own languages are being lost over time, like how Indian tribes are losing their languages today. So, for sure, we'd all have to speak the TRADE language. Which is very questionable is actual English. I imagine they all speak the TRADE language, if it were an actual place we were "looking into" via the video game. Dwarves do have their own language, it's just fallen out of use. They invented Trade/Common/"English" in order to facilitate trade with topsiders.
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Post by phoray on Oct 25, 2016 14:53:47 GMT
If I was really down and out of luck in spite of all that, I'd find a Rose or Pearl equivalent with a good Madame that keeps an eye on the customers and go from there. There's no shame in that, and I'm sterile; so no accidents. Language wouldn't be much of a barrier either. How... can you even suggest that? Where is your self-worth? D: At first, I thought you were joking. And then I realized you weren't. Then I was offended and planned to just ignore it. But alas. I have plenty of self worth. There are also plenty of women who choose to work this field. It's mostly pimps and drugs and terrible things here on Earth, yeah, but there is a small percentage of happily working call girls and professional girlfriends. And as an educated middle class woman, I have absolutely considered this field as a possible side job when I was single. Why? I like sex. It's enjoyable 99% of the time, even when I'm not much in the mood. I find other people's sexuality interesting. In point of fact, I almost became someone's "mistress". I declined at the time for a variety of reasons, but none of the reasons were "suddenly I realized my self worth." I try not to villainize that line of work or the women working in that system. I do villainize the abusers aka pimps. Since then, I have considered being a professional dominatrix on multiple occasions. I used to run in those sorts of groups, and three years ago, I was even offered a prodom's clientele docket and some of her equipment, if I were interested, as she was retiring from the career. So, if I could consider it when I have plenty of options on the table... then, absolutely would it be on the table when I am in a crazy medieval world of magic where I don't speak the language, have no money, and none of the basic skills of homemaking in a time with no electricity. I'd rather be a prostitute, especially in a well run brothel by an ethical madame, than tie myself to the first man who didn't mind that I couldn't speak "english" or make butter from oxen's milk like all the other available ladies. Because that's what women did in medieval times, they got married young and were taken care of. But my initial preferences are teaching, accounting, farm hand, heck, going to Denerim to find Kate? and ask to work in her foundry. Prostitution in a time of difficulty treated STDs is still my bottom of the list. But not because of lack of self worth, not by a long shot.
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Post by Hrungr on Oct 25, 2016 17:06:50 GMT
... I am actually quite good at archery, if a little ring rusty at present, and can also fight with both a foil and a rapier, so I should be able to defend myself reasonably well.
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Back in my college days, I had some archery and sword skills as well, but the one thing I would not rely on in Thedas is combat ability. The races there are a lot tougher than we are and skill doesn't grant us the quasi-magical (or outright magical) abilities it does them. No matter how good we were, we would (to put it mildly)... not fare well if we got into a fight there.
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Post by Heimdall on Oct 25, 2016 22:06:54 GMT
Well, assuming I wasn't killed by bandits, wolves, bears, or a giant spider (Oh God, the full horror of that last one strikes me just now), or die due to a critical lack of survival skills, I would make my way to the nearest Inquisition outpost and try to join up with Leliana's side of the operation.
My degree was in history, but I work for a company that was founded by former members of the CIA and other former law enforcement professionals. They use methodology the CIA used for "non-coercive interrogation" to analyze quarterly earnings calls and interviews for investors, identifying when executives are displaying verbal or nonverbal signs of a deception. I recently completed my analyst training.
That's pretty much the only skill I have that I could exploit, so yeah. My best bet might be to become a spook, or a counter spook.
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Post by riverdaleswhiteflash on Oct 26, 2016 7:59:49 GMT
I would die horribly and painfully, presumably from disease or sudden violence or eating the wrong plant or any number of other things. If I didn't die immediately, I could probably make a paltry living as a Stitches-style healer. 'Cause I work in hospitals. You might be able to get into the Inquisition. They have a surgeon working there who eschews magic in favor of technological means, but seems to be centuries behind us. Trying to push her forward a few centuries might get you a job... or might get you fired or not hired. Your backup plan then would probably be to find a job in a village with no Circle nearby, since if there is a nearby Circle I'd imagine mages are pretty easy to come by.
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Post by doflamingodonquijote on Oct 26, 2016 11:58:05 GMT
I would die horribly and painfully, presumably from disease or sudden violence or eating the wrong plant or any number of other things. If I didn't die immediately, I could probably make a paltry living as a Stitches-style healer. 'Cause I work in hospitals. -As an alien in Thedas you would brought new virus,bacteria and disease,not the contrary. -stitch a dress with a griffon on it and fake yourself as a GW,nobody will attack you. -Stick with the elf roots and you shouldn't have problem for the plants. if you are not an elf create two fake elven ears then join Solas.
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Post by vertigomez on Oct 26, 2016 12:31:43 GMT
I would die horribly and painfully, presumably from disease or sudden violence or eating the wrong plant or any number of other things. If I didn't die immediately, I could probably make a paltry living as a Stitches-style healer. 'Cause I work in hospitals. You might be able to get into the Inquisition. They have a surgeon working there who eschews magic in favor of technological means, but seems to be centuries behind us. Trying to push her forward a few centuries might get you a job... or might get you fired or not hired. Your backup plan then would probably be to find a job in a village with no Circle nearby, since if there is a nearby Circle I'd imagine mages are pretty easy to come by. Right! I couldn't remember the surgeon's name. I guess that job post-Haven would be my safest bet. Unless I got crushed by a leaping Inquisitor, I guess. I would die horribly and painfully, presumably from disease or sudden violence or eating the wrong plant or any number of other things. If I didn't die immediately, I could probably make a paltry living as a Stitches-style healer. 'Cause I work in hospitals. -As an alien in Thedas you would brought new virus,bacteria and disease,not the contrary. -stitch a dress with a griffon on it and fake yourself as a GW,nobody will attack you. -Stick with the elf roots and you shouldn't have problem for the plants. if you are not an elf create two fake elven ears then join Solas. -If they don't share their diseases with me I will be highly offended. -Nobody but... darkspawn? -The Inquisitor stole all the elf root and all the power held within. -It's true that I am not an elf. But I'm pretty sure he wants to kill everyone anyway.
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Post by Ieldra on Oct 26, 2016 12:43:22 GMT
I think a lot of you guys are overlooking a huge thing. We are all literate and relatively educated. It is very likely that in most cases, all of us could become scribes or an accountant for a small business. Even if we don't know the language, we'd pick it up and we'd still know how to count better than over half of Thedas. That's exactly what I was thinking after I read the OP. Short-term survival might be a problem until I've learned the language, but I'm really good with numbers even by our higher standards, and I've learned accounting on top of it, I could probably give local treasurers a run for their money. Also, technological progress. They don't know the printing press there, do they? Well, I can't build one on my own, but the principle is easy enough to understand, I could probably start a business together with some other craftsmen. If you think carefully about it, there are probably a hundred or more similar possibilities. My weakness? My eyesight. I'm so shortsighted that I have only 5% visus without my glasses. Still, that wouldn't be such a hindrance in these professions. Also, health and hygiene. I'm used to clean conditions, no idea how a transfer to Thedas would affect my health. Where to wake up? Priority one, a place where nobody has a stake in enslaving me. Other than that, hmm...no idea. Somewhere somewhat civilized....that leaves....surprisingly few places.
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Post by Ieldra on Oct 26, 2016 13:13:29 GMT
Wow, when put this way, maybe a more fun question would be how doomed would S. Thedas be if we got there and corrupted their system? A lot of us are very smart, very intelligent and we're technologically ahead of the curve despite their advantage with magic. Varric is a rare person to realize what we know historically could happen if his crossbow was mass-produced. If we introduce guns, we change their warfare tactics forever. (The Grey Wardens would kill for anything that gave them an edge so if all it takes is to shelter some poor shmuck who knows how to improve their weapons...) Indeed so. An educated person from here could probably trigger an industrial revolution just by the knowledge they accidentally carry around in their head, without taking any specific profession into account. To say nothing of what could happen if you have skills in chemistry and mechanical engineering. You wouldn't recognize Thedas after 50 years. Machine tools. Steam power. The printing press. Mass production of steel. All that should be quite achieveable with just a little push and the introduction of reliable measurements. As for warfare? Well - those Qunari won't let you make gunpowder? Make guncotton.
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Post by oyabun on Oct 26, 2016 14:03:18 GMT
For all i know the planet in which they live may have condition that are not compatible with my body and that will instantly kill me. Their planet is not Earth and the rules it follow don't even belong to this universe.
Let's us not forget that in their world everyone is a being with a soul which mean that they are fundamentally different from me.
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Post by xerrai on Oct 26, 2016 15:04:12 GMT
I'm pretty sure if I woke up in Thedas one day, I would probably die earlier than usual. The decrease in the standard of living, disease, horrible medical care, lack of technology, and a throng of governments with clearly defined classes all but ensure that if I don't die of natural causes, I'll most likely die as a commoner living a mundane life. Unless I was unfortunate enough to be mage, then I'd have to deal with the Circles and the possibility of becoming an abomination. This would all be made harder if I ended up as any race that is not human.
But then again, with my advanced knowledge from the real world, I may be able to forge a decent life for myself as a scholar of some sort if I was lucky enough to gain entry into an academic institution (University of Orlais or the Circle of Magi). But I would likely have to filter it in such a way that it would not conflict the Chantry's sensibilities.
But this mostly ignores how I will be completely unable to read/write common. Speak it, sure, reading and writing that dwarven language? No. The only use this sort of english writing has in Thedas is being used for either codes or making a new writing system.
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Post by Anthreya on Oct 26, 2016 15:27:42 GMT
I would probably wake up in Rebel Queen's Ravine and with my superior sense of direction end up as breakfast for Fereldan Frostback
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Post by vertigomez on Oct 26, 2016 15:57:26 GMT
I changed my mind. I'm gonna wait it out in a tavern until I run into Isabela.
At least I'll die happy. :')
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Post by doflamingodonquijote on Oct 26, 2016 16:24:34 GMT
I changed my mind. I'm gonna wait it out in a tavern until I run into Isabela. At least I'll die happy. :') It's more likely that you will find Drunk Alistair.
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Post by vertigomez on Oct 26, 2016 17:13:09 GMT
I changed my mind. I'm gonna wait it out in a tavern until I run into Isabela. At least I'll die happy. :') It's more likely that you will find Drunk Alistair. Isabela shows up in two taverns. Drunk Alistair only shows up in one. The odds are ever in my favor.
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Post by Ieldra on Oct 26, 2016 18:25:48 GMT
But this mostly ignores how I will be completely unable to read/write common. Speak it, sure, reading and writing that dwarven language? No. The only use this sort of english writing has in Thedas is being used for either codes or making a new writing system. New letters aren't that hard to learn. Constant exposure will get you there pretty soon if you're familiar with any language/alphabet at all. I mean it's not like Thedosian script was a logographic script like hieroglyphs or Kanji, that would be hard to learn. At least it doesn't look that way in the few examples we have.
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Post by opuspace on Oct 26, 2016 21:01:44 GMT
Wow, when put this way, maybe a more fun question would be how doomed would S. Thedas be if we got there and corrupted their system? A lot of us are very smart, very intelligent and we're technologically ahead of the curve despite their advantage with magic. Varric is a rare person to realize what we know historically could happen if his crossbow was mass-produced. If we introduce guns, we change their warfare tactics forever. (The Grey Wardens would kill for anything that gave them an edge so if all it takes is to shelter some poor shmuck who knows how to improve their weapons...) Indeed so. An educated person from here could probably trigger an industrial revolution just by the knowledge they accidentally carry around in their head, without taking any specific profession into account. To say nothing of what could happen if you have skills in chemistry and mechanical engineering. You wouldn't recognize Thedas after 50 years. Machine tools. Steam power. The printing press. Mass production of steel. All that should be quite achieveable with just a little push and the introduction of reliable measurements. As for warfare? Well - those Qunari won't let you make gunpowder? Make guncotton. I wonder too how much would change if we also introduced our modern day values and perceptions like challenging the Chantry as an organized religion, trying to establish a standard of time (apparently Thedosians have no concept of a planet or a clock besides the odd dwarven piece) and questioning basic medical practices and philosophy on how people think.
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Post by faerlyte on Oct 27, 2016 5:58:22 GMT
I'd probably have a fighting chance. I've done a lot of living in the woods throughout my life so I'm proficient enough to stay alive on my own if I have to. Come by a few tools and I'm pretty sure I can fashion myself a cabin. Definitely would want a bow and some arrows. I'd work somebody's field or something to make some money, sleep in their barn, until I had enough to go on my way and do my thing I guess.
Or I could die too. But that's true of life as it is now so...
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Post by Ieldra on Oct 27, 2016 11:34:30 GMT
]I wonder too how much would change if we also introduced our modern day values and perceptions like challenging the Chantry as an organized religion, trying to establish a standard of time (apparently Thedosians have no concept of a planet or a clock besides the odd dwarven piece) and questioning basic medical practices and philosophy on how people think. This is hard to extrapolate, since Thedas is different from our world in some aspects which are important to a prospective history of ideas. (1) Organized Religion In our world, the Roman Catholic Church still exists and represents the biggest denomination of Christianity. Where religion exists, it is most often organized in some way because religion is a social phenomenon. There is no such thing as the religion of an individual. Individuals can have beliefs, but religion requires a community. So if you challenge "organized religion", what exactly are you challenging? What values are you promoting? Possibilities: (i) Freedom of religion vs. "cuius regio, eius religio". No Thedosian nation has explicitly one or the other except the qunari (see below). It is generally assumed you're Andrastian except if you're an elf, but religious intolerance of the kind Europe had seen in the Renaissance appears to be uncommon. So I don't see a problem here except with the qunari, but they're the enemy anyway and appealing to their tolerance is useless. (ii) Religious organizations and politics. In our world, it is largely considered illegitimate for a religious organization to be an actor in international politics. In Thedas, it's not, and that's not likely to change until the Chantry ceases to control a potential army of mageborn. Also, the conflict with the qunari has the Chantry as a unifying force whose function it would be inadviseable to dismantle at this time. Long-term, the power of the Chantry as an actor in international politics will depend on whether there's a movement akin to the European Enlightenment, which aims to restrict religion to its natural domain and to secularize politics. It is possible under the premise of the OP that you could initiate such a movement, but it would take time to take hold. (2) Standards of measurement Here I see the greatest potential for improvement. Standardized units which are the same everywhere on the continent can revolutionize manufacturing and they are a prerequisite for an industrial revolution and any kind of mass production. As for time, it is my impression that Thedosian mechanical engineering is quite advanced, so I suspect quite good clocks do exist here and there, and with the addition of magical artifice I guess there are a lot of unknown possibilities. Astronomy has been untouched by the games and books, but I can't imagine there isn't any. It is not a given, however, that measurement of time will be based on astronomical periods other than the day. (3) Medical practices There's that doctor in DAI who practices empirical, non-magical medicine. I see fertile ground for improvement using external knowledge, if you can demonstrate it convincingly, but magical healing will continue to be superior in areas where it can be applied. Since the limits of magical healing aren't known except that you can't bring someone back from death, it is impossible to say how much impact external advanced knowledge can have. (4) Philosophy We know only very few philosophical texts from Thedas and this is a broad field. I have no idea.
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Post by KaiserShep on Oct 27, 2016 17:48:41 GMT
We're all NPC's. Needless to say that all of us are doomed.
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Post by grallon on Oct 28, 2016 16:42:54 GMT
Hmmm I wonder if those that dwell beyond the Veil would sense I'm different...
Assuming I survive my 'entry' into that world I would make for Skyhold ASAP and have a long chat with Dagna - she's the most curious and forward thinking (as in modern) individual in Southern Thedas. If anyone can understand - and help - it'd be her. And through her I could carve a place within the Inquisition. The tricky part would be to avoid spilling the beans and avoiding Cole and Solas.
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Post by riverdaleswhiteflash on Oct 29, 2016 9:51:23 GMT
You might be able to get into the Inquisition. They have a surgeon working there who eschews magic in favor of technological means, but seems to be centuries behind us. Trying to push her forward a few centuries might get you a job... or might get you fired or not hired. Your backup plan then would probably be to find a job in a village with no Circle nearby, since if there is a nearby Circle I'd imagine mages are pretty easy to come by. Right! I couldn't remember the surgeon's name. I guess that job post-Haven would be my safest bet. Unless I got crushed by a leaping Inquisitor, I guess. -It's true that I am not an elf. But I'm pretty sure he wants to kill everyone anyway. I think her name is "Surgeon." Though I admit I don't remember that bit too clearly, apart from the fact that she exists, thinks a dependence on magical healing is holding Thedas back (which she has a case for) and seemed to be at about the same tech level with her scientific healing you'd expect. Do we actually know what Solas intends for his not-immortal elven followers? I think he said that he's going to wipe out the Dalish, but I don't think he specified whether his plans meant that every modern elf is doomed, or whether he merely intends a general apocalypse that will kill any elf that isn't sheltering from it with him. (Though of course if he catches a human among his followers I think we know what he plans to do about that.)
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Post by vertigomez on Oct 29, 2016 14:25:00 GMT
Right! I couldn't remember the surgeon's name. I guess that job post-Haven would be my safest bet. Unless I got crushed by a leaping Inquisitor, I guess. -It's true that I am not an elf. But I'm pretty sure he wants to kill everyone anyway. I think her name is "Surgeon." Though I admit I don't remember that bit too clearly, apart from the fact that she exists, thinks a dependence on magical healing is holding Thedas back (which she has a case for) and seemed to be at about the same tech level with her scientific healing you'd expect. Riiight! She was brilliant. I rewatched the confrontation scene last night, and I got the impression that there's not going to be like a systematic purge of all races, just that the world's going to "burn in the raw chaos," and he doesn't have any illusions about the fact that scores and scores of people must die for his plan to come to fruition. I don't know if tearing down the Veil will warp people or if it's just the "raining hellfire" bit that's supposed to kill everyone. Honestly, though, it might just be a big nuke? Like the aftermath of the Conclave (which he sort of accepts responsibility for.... but never actually apologizes for the horrible agony and death those people went through..?).
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Post by rapscallioness on Oct 30, 2016 2:24:51 GMT
But wake up where in S. Thedas? Hinterlands, or Denerim? Val Royeaux or the Hissing Wastes? Or Emprise, geez I'd be freezing my azz off.
Lessee: Wake up more than a little half nekkid; hair completely disheveled, and probably rather wild eyed at that point...yeah, I'd be pegged as Hedge Witch and promptly burned.
Seriously, though, and mind that there are supposed to be demons. You know first thing I'd do is find a sharp rock, or big stick I could sharpen for a weapon. Just in case. Then skulk about like a ninja to find some kind of clothes; shelter; resources. Then branch out from there. Probably end up in league with the Inquisition.
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