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Post by MPApr2012 on Dec 3, 2019 1:37:06 GMT
So i keep coming across builds where people keep going with 5B evo... I'm kinda puzzled as to why. What would be the logic behind it? Am i missing something? it's really getting quiet around here now innit... sigh
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Post by Alfonsedode on Dec 3, 2019 9:55:23 GMT
While 5a is like adding a nice looking bra, giving some increased impact factor, 5b is the breast enlargement surgery
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Post by MPApr2012 on Dec 3, 2019 10:08:44 GMT
oi, Al. mate, my posts are up here. stay... focused!
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Post by NinjaSuperiority on Dec 3, 2019 13:18:03 GMT
Man there are people around that spec Shockwave to 6 lol
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Post by BlackMage on Dec 3, 2019 13:27:49 GMT
5A doesn't do much and 5B gives the option of carrying a heavier weapon e.g. Fury with Venom.
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Post by BlackMage on Dec 3, 2019 13:33:24 GMT
Man there are people around that spec Shockwave to 6 lol
I don't think I have any builds where Shockwave is NOT spec'd to 6.
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Post by andy_3_913 on Dec 3, 2019 13:59:59 GMT
Man there are people around that spec Shockwave to 6 lol I do that I would say 'fite me IRL' but I might get beaten up.
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Post by muahmuah on Dec 3, 2019 14:51:40 GMT
Man there are people around that spec Shockwave to 6 lol Lifting Shockeave is a very fun power. Also i use 6 points in the shockwave's three with Shaman(non lifting version). If Andy doesn't want,can i invite you for some old fashioned 1v1 me?
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Post by NinjaSuperiority on Dec 3, 2019 15:26:38 GMT
Finally some movement here :-D 1st and more importantly both "offers" accepted, rippaz are advancing too much lately, gotta shoot some. And if i lose it won't be because some husks weren't floating around :-P fun power? my shaman ain't no clown BTW, what's the "optimal" evolution for those superfluous 6 points???
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Post by muahmuah on Dec 3, 2019 15:31:53 GMT
Finally some movement here :-D 1st and more importantly both "offers" accepted, rippaz are advancing too much lately, gotta shoot some. And if i lose it won't be because some husks weren't floating around :-P fun power? my shaman ain't no clown BTW, what's the "optimal" evolution for those superfluous 6 points??? Your Shaman sucks hairy asses without 6 points in shockwave.The optimal is 4A,5A,6A.
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Post by TheNightSlasher on Dec 3, 2019 18:10:53 GMT
My human adept has 6 ranks in shockwave and 0 points in warp.
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Post by b00tsyc0llins on Dec 3, 2019 21:48:48 GMT
So i keep coming across builds where people keep going with 5B evo... I'm kinda puzzled as to why. What would be the logic behind it? Am i missing something? it's really getting quiet around here now innit... sigh Increased Recharge Speed means quicker follow-up with Throw. 30% Movement slow - who cares. Just personal preference, I guess. None of those evos is a difference maker, imo.
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Dec 3, 2019 22:17:21 GMT
How do you know they went 5A?
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Post by NinjaSuperiority on Dec 3, 2019 22:20:11 GMT
My human adept has 6 ranks in shockwave and 0 points in warp. Is that the melee one? :-P
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Post by TheNightSlasher on Dec 3, 2019 22:51:46 GMT
My human adept has 6 ranks in shockwave and 0 points in warp. Is that the melee one? :-P Yup
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Post by MPApr2012 on Dec 4, 2019 1:29:39 GMT
Is that the melee one? :-P Yup Pfft. My melee hma is specced out of singularity
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Post by MPApr2012 on Dec 4, 2019 1:53:50 GMT
Man there are people around that spec Shockwave to 6 lol Yup ima one of them 5A doesn't do much and 5B gives the option of carrying a heavier weapon e.g. Fury with Venom. i kinda thought that but event that Valkyrie-wannabe, she's a gap closer. cast dc, detonate, get into AF range detonate again. AF+throw spam is way more spammy. There's no big reason to recast dc is there? Man there are people around that spec Shockwave to 6 lol
I don't think I have any builds where Shockwave is NOT spec'd to 6. Man there are people around that spec Shockwave to 6 lol I do that I would say 'fite me IRL' but I might get beaten up. Man there are people around that spec Shockwave to 6 lol Lifting Shockeave is a very fun power. Also i use 6 points in the shockwave's three with Shaman(non lifting version). If Andy doesn't want,can i invite you for some old fashioned 1v1 me? Hold your horses. no go. Ima next. mine's earlier look in the phof thread. Andy, Ninja you better kindly join the bloody queue. Finally some movement here :-D 1st and more importantly both "offers" accepted, rippaz are advancing too much lately, gotta shoot some. And if i lose it won't be because some husks weren't floating around :-P fun power? my shaman ain't no clown BTW, what's the "optimal" evolution for those superfluous 6 points??? Your Shaman sucks hairy asses without 6 points in shockwave.The optimal is 4A,5A,6A. QFT So i keep coming across builds where people keep going with 5B evo... I'm kinda puzzled as to why. What would be the logic behind it? Am i missing something? it's really getting quiet around here now innit... sigh Increased Recharge Speed means quicker follow-up with Throw. 30% Movement slow - who cares. Just personal preference, I guess. None of those evos is a difference maker, imo. But doesn't answer why you need to recast dc in the first place. both fury and prollector have better ways for detonations spam. and huntress has tc plus she ain't so much about boom booms, she's after the big game. slow on the other hand might be situationally helpful to split a bulletsponge from a spawn for instance/funnel them up. agree, not a deal breaker either way... kinda curious. So. Thus far we have a dc+throw ranged fury wielding something heavy who relies on DC as a primer. Uhm...
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Post by DistigousForest on Dec 4, 2019 11:49:47 GMT
But doesn't answer why you need to recast dc in the first place. both fury and prollector have better ways for detonations spam. Sometimes that shit just don't jump or you need to stagger something now, which is another thing DC is great for. The gripe I have is taking the bugs on the bug. That thing is a biotic soldier and has no need for those swarms.
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Post by Alfonsedode on Dec 4, 2019 12:15:22 GMT
But doesn't answer why you need to recast dc in the first place. both fury and prollector have better ways for detonations spam. . That thing is a biotic soldier . i m still undecided in those instances between damage barrel (+15% dmg vs everything but armor, almost no loss vs armor with warp ammo) and piercing barrel
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Post by DistigousForest on Dec 4, 2019 12:38:57 GMT
i m still undecided in those instances between damage barrel (+15% dmg vs everything but armor, almost no loss vs armor) and piercing barrel Depends on the enemy and difficulty really, imo. I usually take APIV and damage barrel for Plat and HVB and Warp for gold since there's less of a mix of shields/barriers, but you can't go wrong with either. It just depends on how much piercing you want.
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Post by MPApr2012 on Dec 5, 2019 0:19:20 GMT
But doesn't answer why you need to recast dc in the first place. both fury and prollector have better ways for detonations spam. Sometimes that shit just don't jump or you need to stagger something now, which is another thing DC is great for. The gripe I have is taking the bugs on the bug. That thing is a biotic soldier and has no need for those swarms. Ah i knew you'd have some to say and share the insight here. And yeah i kinda lost half of my question along the way, about recasts i mean. it's why do you have to do that in a hurry and so often i.e. does 5b really make that much difference. anyways. i kinda figured bugless prollector build may come up. cool. So with the practical rifle build, what's the approach here? a good ol weapon platform? i see you went 5b there so aren't we supposed to capitalise on rampup benefits as opposed to frequent reacsts edit: re swarms. can't get over the fact he pulls them outta his ass either lol i m still undecided in those instances between damage barrel (+15% dmg vs everything but armor, almost no loss vs armor) and piercing barrel i m still undecided in those instances between damage barrel (+15% dmg vs everything but armor, almost no loss vs armor) and piercing barrel Depends on the enemy and difficulty really, imo. I usually take APIV and damage barrel for Plat and HVB and Warp for gold since there's less of a mix of shields/barriers, but you can't go wrong with either. It just depends on how much piercing you want. hah. same. sorta find that piercing barrel feels a tad ooomfier for some reason. plus. it opens up the ammo slot for elementals. considering most of the time it's the power-bsaed characters who frequently need los piercing is not much of an issue either. hvb gives just enough ammo mitigation to feel okay too. but platinum crabs and scions still take forever and can go fuck themselves
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Post by DistigousForest on Dec 8, 2019 12:40:48 GMT
it's why do you have to do that in a hurry and so often i.e. does 5b really make that much difference. anyways. I usually charge groups/spawns and fight in the open, especially on gold where it's easier, that I usually need it to stagger the closest thing to me so that's where a few fractions of a second help more than slowing things down. So with the practical rifle build, what's the approach here? a good ol weapon platform? i see you went 5b there so aren't we supposed to capitalise on rampup benefits as opposed to frequent reacsts Yeah really you probably shouldn't interrupt a wound up PPR, buuuuuut I'm a sucker for interrupting my wound up PPR to cast DC or Biotic Sphere even if it costs damage efficiency on plat:D but platinum crabs and scions still take forever and can go fuck themselves APIV double hits ftw, especially on those Scions
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Post by DistigousForest on Dec 17, 2019 18:25:28 GMT
MPApr2012 Here is an epeen post the result from a recent match with the PPR Soldier. A trio on Vancouver, the Juggy helped just keep shit around him so that makes it a little easier, but I've used it in matches with no Juggs to good effect. The other kit ironically enough was another bug w/ SS and used Ascension Mode (I use neither) and Acolyte/CSMG. The only thing it struggles with are big shields like Fatlas or Prime, but if you DC that'll keep them from regenerating while PPR ammo regens. Once things get to armor they simply melt. Phantoms are:P with the bug. PAIV or CMIV are up to you.
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Post by MPApr2012 on Dec 18, 2019 0:35:08 GMT
tradiitions demand to be upheld epeens aside and not to be anal about and all.... this game doesn't really make for a strong case for the faster dc regen evo though... righfully so you both bugs seem to have capitalised on weapon damage which makes perfect sense. and even your cogbuckets example, since you want dc applied to stop shield regen not keep recasting as fast as so really if anything slow gives you another fringe benefit .... oh oh and wtf is that SS you mentioned, in prollectors adept context?? i'm wrecking my brain here and i give up. and i know it's gonna be something easy what an idiot. nvm. lol
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Post by DistigousForest on Dec 18, 2019 13:09:17 GMT
tradiitions demand to be upheld epeens aside and not to be anal about and all.... this game doesn't really make for a strong case for the faster dc regen evo though... righfully so you both bugs seem to have capitalised on weapon damage which makes perfect sense. and even your cogbuckets example, since you want dc applied to stop shield regen not keep recasting as fast as so really if anything slow gives you another fringe benefit .... oh oh and wtf is that SS you mentioned, in prollectors adept context?? i'm wrecking my brain here and i give up. and i know it's gonna be something easy what an idiot. nvm. lol I agree this screenshot doesn't do much, but I spammed the shit out of DC (and BioSphere too), so I'll try to get some clips over my long break to show you how I use it. Well there's a .6 second recharge time difference between Slow and Recharge Speed evos. I think that's a decent enough difference to take Recharge Speed. If you need to recast because it didn't jump to the right enemy it's there in 3.5 seconds, which isn't too bad. It lets you hit that charging Dragoon or Phantom or Marauder so you get some stagger or damage boost.
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