End of Year PC Build

This is rubbish.
There is a slight difference, but it's negligible.
Certainly not. 16GB is enough for games atm.
Listen to Intel:

Rules to enable dual-channel mode:
To achieve dual-channel mode, the following conditions must be met:

Same memory size. Examples: 1 GB, 2 GB, 4 GB.
Matched DIMM configuration in each channel.
Matched in symmetrical memory slots.

Configurations that do not match the above conditions revert to single-channel mode. The following conditions do not need to be met:

Same brand
Same timing specifications
Same speed (MHz)

The only screwable issue is the DIMM configuration.Yes! Yes! To Obi Wan, you listen.

RE:  The RAM not working correctly unless I buy 2 or more of the same batches at the same time, rather than buying 16 now and another 16 later type of thing........That was someone in Sales at my local Canada COmputers store.

And as for the blurb I wrote about the 10900K NEEDING 64GB RAM to run well......I've read that same article three times now in the past two months (all by chance).....and yet now I can't find it.  I have googled every term, every phrase....scowered as many as 40 different websites with tabs all over my screen (still only using 25% of less of my full RAM)....But now I can't find that stupid site anywhere.   Everything I have searched says 32GB is overkill for almost all scenerios--unless you are into things like Maya, ZBrush, Cinebench, 3DStudio, CAD, ADOBE PS at 8K resolution etc....which I am not.  It is those things that need 64GB because of the intensive storage/retrieval relationship between the RAM and CPU for such things.

I tried this and googling and found nothing.
This occurred to me as well.
The problem with the idea is that, there's nothing special about 10900K's memory architecture: it's just a normal dual channel. And processors don't "need" memory for anything, system's do. If you want to squeeze most out of your memory,

1. use quad channel, 4x8GB etc.
2. buy the sticks with the smallest latency (gets expensive fast)
3. get sticks with crazy clock speeds, like Kingston Fury Renegade 4600 (pricey)

But this would make little sense, unless you plan to do memory OC:ing, or are a benchmarker.

Even if you use four sticks of RAM with the 10900KF, it's still dual-channel because that's what the platform supports.

Yeah, as far as I know QC RAM on Intel platforms went the way of the Dodo after the X-99 chipset and 2011-3 socket. DOn't quote me because I'm not entirely sure...would have to look it up, but I'm pretty sure that the Z 170 and onwards...270, 370, 390 etc up to the current 490 and newest Z590 only support Dual Channel.

Thanks for the input, Vanguard. At least now I know not to waste more money (300 dollars) on 32gb more of RAM.

Plus, I also took a look at some 4K Gaming Benchmark videos on youtube.....(you know? The kind where the screen is segmented into 8/16/32/64 with statistics changing constantly....along with Resolution such as 1080/1440/4K) and at 4K... 9 out of 10 times, the FPS difference in games remained equal between 32 and 64 GB RAM, with the exception of maybe one or two titles in very specific spots of certain games; then and only then would the FPS jump in favour of the 64GB for only the briefest of moments. Yet there were also times when even the so called 'sweet 16' showed a positive favour over 32 or 64 GB at 1440P....so bottom line is I am going to stick with my 32GB of 3000Mhz DDR4 with a Timing Ratio of 16-18-18-18-38 CL 16, and who cares if I have two unpopulates slots on my motherboard. Can't see them anywhere, the board is black, the slots are black and my tempered glass is slightly tinted.


Here are my CPUser scores


www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/45344540



UserBenchmarks: Game 149%, Desk 105%, Work 161%

CPU: Intel Core i9-10900KF - 102.1%

GPU: Nvidia RTX 2080S (Super) - 145.5%

SSD: Samsung 970 Evo NVMe PCIe M.2 1TB - 321.1%

SSD: Crucial MX300 1TB - 92.1%

SSD: Samsung 950 NVMe PCIe M.2 512GB - 263.2%

RAM: G.SKILL F4 DDR4 3000 C16 2x16GB - 95.8%

MBD: Gigabyte Z490 AORUS MASTER

Hello thread

I am teh dumb! And I figured it out, and now my system is damn near silent running games.

The way it could have been when I built it :/

I will keep this simple:

I have a Corsair H150i, and a Commander Pro.

My fan speeds would ramp up ridiculously anytime I opened a program, ran games, etc. They would ramp to 1600rpm despite the "Quiet" profile in iCue.

Why? Because the Commander defaults to your CPU temp sensor, which will make your non-CPU fans (my Commander is not running any of the H150i fans) start "crying Wolf" for no reason.

I finally remembered to look into fixing it. Very simple. Go to Commander Pro settings, select Cooling, go down to preset area and click +, make a new preset and base it on the H150i pump coolant temperature. Set all your fans to this new preset, and enjoy the silence.

So easy to fix. I really feel dumb being mad at my system, when it really was PEBKAC.

It may be a few months late to the party but Jay finally released his Free tips -except the last one on heat removal from computer rooms:

Mind if I insert myself and my question here?

I got a Ryzen 7 5800 recently. Not the X, I didn't see need for unlocked CPU after I never actually overclocked my 2500K.

I play mostly ArmA, but also played and finished over 100 hrs of Kingdom Come, a little DCS, and a bit of Wargame Red Dragon... All of those, the CPU ran around the 80 degree celsius mark.

Now, I got CP2077 (local retailer - and my local I mean, one of the biggest two in the country - had a good sale so I went for it) and playing it the processor runs up to 95 degrees celsius, no problem and stays there for the whole session. I've been limiting my sessions due to this significantly.

I wanted to ask, how bad is it? SUpposedly 95 is the very top bracket for "still in spec" but I'm worried to run the game for extended periods of time, or even on a daily basis in short sessions to not damage the CPU.

I have also asked AMD themselves about how the temperature would affect the CPU in the long term, but I figure I can get a variety of decent answers here quickly, and then get the definitive one out of them eventually.


...and if it's not good news, I'll have a chat with the builders. Silverhand style.