End of Year PC Build

also I've technically already died in 4K numerous times, but now I'll die in 4K at ultra settings, so it will be extra gritty and edgy" --Caldari Ghost


Yes, watching the many numerous ways Lara can die in 4K is particularly entertaining...(being that it is new to me on PC) but also as you say, extra gritty and edgy. I would also like to add to that, 'extra gross" LOL. Don't know if you have played Shadow of the Tomb Raider yet....But there's one part where Lara is pushing an object into place (and it is the wrong one, or at the wrong time in sequence) she gets her hands trapped in medival shackle type stuff....then it pulls her ever closer and closer.....and then without warning HUGE spikes spring out of the wall and pierce her chest, throat/neck, mouth and skull. It is one of the more gruesome death scenes I have encountered while playing.


Curious...even though it is actually designed for DESIGN (such as Photo Editing, Video Editing, CAD etc) what do you think of the BENQ PD3200U as a monitor?   My dad has had one going on 5 years now.  He bought it to replace another high-quality monitor the HP DreamColour Z Series (1200x1600 at the time going back to 2014-15, 17), and he does a lot of Photoshop and Lightroom in 4K having RAW images from a high end Nikon D850 (amazing camera), and he was very enthusiastic in his feedback to me about the PD3200U.   Before I bought mine, after I was severely burned by ACER for the POS 321HK I mentioned, he said I could borrow his PD3200U to try it out for a few days to see how I liked it and how it suited my needs.

I knew BENQ made good quality stuff...But I was leary of how a monitor made for design would support or handle fast-paced, graphically intense games......(and honestly, those extremely few, minutely briefly and fleeting moments of gaming glory when the 321HK did work with all its bells and whistles....It was an astonishing monitor.  I had never seen or experienced anything above 60hz before, let alone actually witnessed what G-Sync could do.....And I was blown away.  But then the problem became all too extreme and it soon became nothing but garbage).  But I was equally impressed in every way how the PD 3200U handled games like Jedi Fallen Order, ANTHEM, Mass Effect Andromeda in 4K at 60hz/60FPS with zero defects of any kind.  PLus the image quality and colour reproduction were some of the very best I'd seen.

More than that is was half the cost of the 321HK, so after 2 days of solid 4K Gaming use...I happily ordered one from Amazon and I have been very happy with it.  I only wish it had HDR like the newer 3220U that was released in 2019.   Now oddly, I bought the 3200U in July of 2020 so the newer 3220 was already released-- but do you think I could find it anywhere?   I'm telling you it was nowhere to be found, at least not in places that would be shippable to Canada.  The only model that came up was the 3200.   Plus, I looked at the specs of the 3220....and in a lot of areas, the older 3200U is a better spec'd, better quality item.  With maybe the exception of the addition of full range HDR 10/Dolby Vision support.  Other than that, I would take the 3200 any day of the week considering the cost.   The newest 3220 is over 2000.00 CAD anywhere I have looked, even on Amazon.ca

Yes, Unreal Engine 5 looks incredible.....Much btter than Frostbite I would say.

My opinion is the 5800X is incorrectly TDP rated.

Before he does any of that, he should contact the builders first and tell them about the high temperatures. It shouldn't be the buyer's job to "fix" a prebuilt PC with thermal issues.


The fact is the 5800 runs much cooler than the 5800X. If you're talking about 80-90C short temperature spikes on a good cooler, that's more or less a normal behavior due to the boost algorithm. If the CPU is consistently hitting 95C under sustained load instead, there's definitely something wrong with the system. So it's most likely a bad cooler or a bad mount.

PBO is considered running out of specs by AMD and technically if you have it enabled, it automatically avoids your CPU's warranty. That's why almost all system integrators and OEMs have PBO disabled by default. So that shouldn't be the cause for the high temperatures in this case.


Ryzen 5800 chips are lower binned fully functional CCX chiplets. If it didn't meet the 5800X standards, it wouldn't be labeled 5800X. So what you're saying just makes no sense. 5800 is 5800 and 5800X is 5800X. They aren't the same. 5800 is the lowered clocked version of 5800X with locked multipliers. It is an OEM-only CPU and that means AMD only sells them to OEMs and system integrators.

Surely the 5800 can draw more power than the rated TDP, but there's something seriously wrong with the cooling if it's hitting 95C in stock settings. You don't even need an AIO to cool a stock 5800. Any decent air cooler with sufficient airflow can do a much better job without hitting the thermal throttle.

I say pick it up when it's in the bargain bin for $10 or $20. By then, you'll probably have a better GPU to run it at 4K/120 FPS.

As for now, even my 3090 struggles to get above 70 FPS on 1440p in some parts of the game.

Performance issues aside, the game really is a big letdown as an RPG. Most of your decisions don't matter at all and you really need to dig through all the crappy side quests to get to the good missions.

A 3090 struggling with 1440?      That has to be an optimization issue rather than a GPU performance issue....because by all accounts, the only thing that a single 3090 should struggle with is the theoretical, elusive 8K res.  Of course, your wallet should struggle with 8K hardware as it sits at this present time.  a thirty two inch 8K monitor is 5,200 CAD.   You can be a 85" 4K high end TV for that price.

So..... I guess the question, "but can it play CyberPunk 2077 in 4K at 60FPS on ULTRA?" is the new "but can it play Crysis...........?"

Oh my God, so I was actually right? I can't believe it.

Man, that's gonna be interesting. I guess you should contact Dell about it and hopefully they can upgrade the cooler or send you a better cooler?

If not, you can probably mount an 120mm AIO cooler to the top of the case yourself. Just keep in mind that the Dell motherboard probably uses the Intel mounting bracket instead of AMD.

Haha, I didn't spoil anything. Most decisions don't matter and that also means some decisions do. However, I'm not here to sell you the game.
If you don't think it's the right game for you, don't play it.

That would be hilarious, if it wasn't for the fact that the R10 is terribad.

My recommandations:

1. buy an AIO with a very flat CPU block and improve case ventilation. Basically what bmwcrazy said and what Steve said in the video.
OR
2. Buy a new case and dump that plastic aberration. A proper air cooler and a case fan or two will make all the difference.