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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Sept 7, 2021 6:07:23 GMT
Problem is Raid 5 isn't enough. I would only feel safe with triple or quad parity if using RAID 5.
Triple parity would be RAID 7 but that's not very widely used. RAID 6 gives you double parity but that also means you need an extra HDD than RAID 5. Personally, I'm a fan of RAID 10. It gives you nearly the performance of RAID 0, but you still get that redundancy because they're mirrored. However, you need at least four (ideally identically) HDDs and it only gives you half of the total storage space.To be honest, even having just a single parity (RAID 5) is already miles better than having no redundancy at all for your data. Unless you don't mind manually backing up your stuff periodically. I'm just way too lazy for that. So as I thought thank you. I think I will just keep to my current method: Set aside a day or weekend and back up all those backups I mentioned every few months or so. Not nearly as much of a hassle as RAID drives would mirror each drive and amount to nearly 10 TB of current data for EACH drive... But like you I do like redundancy.
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Post by bmwcrazy on Sept 7, 2021 7:57:10 GMT
So as I thought thank you. I think I will just keep to my current method: Set aside a day or weekend and back up all those backups I mentioned every few months or so. Not nearly as much of a hassle as RAID drives would mirror each drive and amount to nearly 10 TB of current data for EACH drive... But like you I do like redundancy.
I also backup the important data every once in a while. However, you've also gotta make sure whatever that you're backing up with also has some kind of redundancy. I use a six-bay NAS with six 10TB Seagate Ironwolf HDDs on RAID 5 for that. That's 50TB of storage.  
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Sept 7, 2021 8:57:33 GMT
So as I thought thank you. I think I will just keep to my current method: Set aside a day or weekend and back up all those backups I mentioned every few months or so. Not nearly as much of a hassle as RAID drives would mirror each drive and amount to nearly 10 TB of current data for EACH drive... But like you I do like redundancy.
I also backup the important data every once in a while. However, you've also gotta make sure whatever that you're backing up with also has some kind of redundancy.I use a six-bay NAS with six 10TB Seagate Ironwolf HDDs on RAID 5 for that. That's 50TB of storage. Agreed. Though for backup I do usually go Greens or Blues. Blacks have made it there too -when I have got new drives. If I took those six or seven backups I mentioned I would probably be close to you at about 60-70TB total storage backup. Good grief I think I just hurt my brain.
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Post by rewindbutton on Sept 7, 2021 14:09:54 GMT
My M.2s are all Samsung, my SSDs are a mix of Samsung and Crucial For me, it's Samsung all the way; I don't even bother to check other brands. Great quality and the software is decent too.
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Post by rewindbutton on Sept 7, 2021 14:19:57 GMT
Maybe see if they got combos I do check the combos, but they never include a GPU. The stores are really skinning every penny. I have really googled hard to get a GPU, but no luck thus far. Prices seem to be going down though, and there seems to be more in stock than a week ago. I even saw a 6600 XT being sold under $600.   |
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Post by rewindbutton on Sept 7, 2021 14:31:36 GMT
A system that can handle this for a decade for starters would be a good halfway point in my opinion.
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Post by rewindbutton on Sept 7, 2021 14:47:08 GMT
RAID and my knowledge of it is limited but seems expensive. For most purposes RAID 1 mirroring should be adequate, but it depends on how crucial the data is to you. Problem is Raid 5 isn't enough. But that would mean, like data center -level integrity. And this would just be too expensive. Well exactly. If you are running a Linux array, then sure. To be honest, even having just a single parity (RAID 5) is already miles better than having no redundancy at all for your data. Hear hear! |
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Post by bmwcrazy on Sept 7, 2021 16:39:16 GMT
If I took those six or seven backups I mentioned I would probably be close to you at about 60-70TB total storage backup. Good grief I think I just hurt my brain. Haha, and you were asking for a solution for triple and quadruple parity. A RAID level with triple parity is not even your industry standard RAID level. A simple RAID 5 only requires a single extra HDD. Let's say you had 70TB of data that you wanted to backup, you could easily fit all that data into five 16TB Seagate Exos X16 HDDs. That means you would need to build a RAID 5 with six of those 16TB HDDs and that leave you 80TB of storage space which is plentiful. A RAID 6 (double parity) would require two extra HDDs for parity, so you need seven instead of six 16TB HDDs. If that hurts your brain, you don't want to imagine what you have to do to get a system with triple or quadruple parity up and running. At that point, you might as well just build a simple RAID 1 or RAID 10 system and save you all the headache.
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Post by bmwcrazy on Sept 7, 2021 16:54:35 GMT
For me, it's Samsung all the way; I don't even bother to check other brands. Great quality and the software is decent too. This. I would only recommend Samsung and Intel SSDs to the people that I care about. I have had multiple Crucial and Micron SSDs fail on me already. They all just suddenly stopped working for no reason without any heavy usage at all.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Sept 7, 2021 23:32:30 GMT
If I took those six or seven backups I mentioned I would probably be close to you at about 60-70TB total storage backup. Good grief I think I just hurt my brain. Haha, and you were asking for a solution for triple and quadruple parity. A RAID level with triple parity is not even your industry standard RAID level. A simple RAID 5 only requires a single extra HDD. Let's say you had 70TB of data that you wanted to backup, you could easily fit all that data into five 16TB Seagate Exos X16 HDDs. That means you would need to build a RAID 5 with six of those 16TB HDDs and that leave you 80TB of storage space which is plentiful. A RAID 6 (double parity) would require two extra HDDs for parity, so you need seven instead of six 16TB HDDs. If that hurts your brain, you don't want to imagine what you have to do to get a system with triple or quadruple parity up and running. At that point, you might as well just build a simple RAID 1 or RAID 10 system and save you all the headache. Not really.
For me that 70 TB would need to be backed on EVERY drive. That is the level of redundancy of parity I would deem acceptable... Problem is it is just too expensive to go for.
Let me be more specific though: I currently have about 10 TB of the exact same data stored in 6 to 7 different places.
Same videos, same music, same games ect. What hurt my brain was thinking on the current state of the backups of each one all at the same time.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Sept 7, 2021 23:33:02 GMT
RAID and my knowledge of it is limited but seems expensive. For most purposes RAID 1 mirroring should be adequate, but it depends on how crucial the data is to you. I see what you did there but yes when you have been hit by Ransomware once and had no backup. Then have it happen to your backup while it happens to your daily driver again you kind of get very attached to your data. NOTE: Avoid Claimwin it attracts Ransomware like lit up Christmas tree -I didn't know it at the time just an FYI.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Sept 7, 2021 23:33:27 GMT
Problem is Raid 5 isn't enough. But that would mean, like data center -level integrity. That is child's play for me -I have moved so much farther. |
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Sept 7, 2021 23:33:39 GMT
And this would just be too expensive. Well exactly. Yep. |
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Sept 7, 2021 23:33:49 GMT
Maybe see if they got combos I do check the combos, but they never include a GPU. The stores are really skinning every penny. I have really googled hard to get a GPU, but no luck thus far. Prices seem to be going down though, and there seems to be more in stock than a week ago. I even saw a 6600 XT being sold under $600.   Finally we are getting there... No...
Wait... Is it still?
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Sept 7, 2021 23:34:01 GMT
A system that can handle this for a decade for starters would be a good halfway point in my opinion. More like this: Just to note this isn't my set up I wish it was.
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Post by bmwcrazy on Sept 8, 2021 1:41:23 GMT
Not really.
For me that 70 TB would need to be backed on EVERY drive. That is the level of redundancy of parity I would deem acceptable... What do you mean? With RAID 5, you can have a single drive failure and still not lose any data. With RAID 6, you can have up to two HDD failures at the same time. If you want each drive to have its own backup, you can double the HDDs and use RAID 1 to mirror them. That's the most expensive solution but it does exactly what you're asking for. RAID is just a great solution that has proven to work on both consumers and enterprise level. It really gives you a peace of mind. I have never lost any data due to HDD failures thanks to RAID 1, RAID 5, and RAID 10. They have saved my ass so many times. Let me be more specific though: I currently have about 10 TB of the exact same data stored in 6 to 7 different places.
Same videos, same music, same games ect. What hurt my brain was thinking on the current state of the backups of each one all at the same time.
Of course that'd give you a headache. Having an NAS would make backing up your data AND accessing your data so much simpler and easier.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Sept 8, 2021 10:51:04 GMT
I use a 4-drive bay from Orico (my dad recommended that company to me after he'd purchased a 2 drive bay and has used his for close to 5 years with no incidents). He told me the company to stay away from, far away from was StarTech-- which I agree with. But my 4-drive bay enclosure is capable of 64-TB though I only have two Blue 2TB Drive and one Green 1....so 5 GB. One of the WD Blues has my movie library on it-- or part of it. I have over 200 DVDs and BDs. I have only a fraction of them digitized from when I used CLONE BD and AnyDVD back in the day when AnyDVD was free to me.
I also am missing a 5.25 inch drive bay in my case but with most of my game library now in the form of Digital Downloads I don't need one.
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Post by bmwcrazy on Sept 8, 2021 15:26:34 GMT
I use a 4-drive bay from Orico (my dad recommended that company to me after he'd purchased a 2 drive bay and has used his for close to 5 years with no incidents). He told me the company to stay away from, far away from was StarTech-- which I agree with. But my 4-drive bay enclosure is capable of 64-TB though I only have two Blue 2TB Drive and one Green 1....so 5 GB. One of the WD Blues has my movie library on it-- or part of it. I have over 200 DVDs and BDs. I have only a fraction of them digitized from when I used CLONE BD and AnyDVD back in the day when AnyDVD was free to me. I also am missing a 5.25 inch drive bay in my case but with most of my game library now in the form of Digital Downloads I don't need one. NAS are just PCs and I think almost all of them run on Linux. That means you can even build your own if you don't feel like buying one. Just get a PC case with a bunch of 3.5 inch bays and buy a good RAID controller that has whatever features you want like RAID 6 and also has good Linux support. Dig up some old CPU, motherboard, RAM, and PSU that you have. Load it up with HDDs of your choice and install TrueNAS/FreeNAS. You now have yourself a homemade NAS!
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Sept 8, 2021 16:43:01 GMT
I use a 4-drive bay from Orico (my dad recommended that company to me after he'd purchased a 2 drive bay and has used his for close to 5 years with no incidents). He told me the company to stay away from, far away from was StarTech-- which I agree with. But my 4-drive bay enclosure is capable of 64-TB though I only have two Blue 2TB Drive and one Green 1....so 5 GB. One of the WD Blues has my movie library on it-- or part of it. I have over 200 DVDs and BDs. I have only a fraction of them digitized from when I used CLONE BD and AnyDVD back in the day when AnyDVD was free to me. I also am missing a 5.25 inch drive bay in my case but with most of my game library now in the form of Digital Downloads I don't need one. You probably mean this: Or this: This has no firmware needed or required they are just an external hard drive right? This would be the closest thing to a NAS as I would ever get.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Sept 8, 2021 16:58:47 GMT
Not really.
For me that 70 TB would need to be backed on EVERY drive. That is the level of redundancy of parity I would deem acceptable... What do you mean? With RAID 5, you can have a single drive failure and still not lose any data. With RAID 6, you can have up to two HDD failures at the same time. If you want each drive to have its own backup, you can double the HDDs and use RAID 1 to mirror them. That's the most expensive solution but it does exactly what you're asking for. RAID is just a great solution that has proven to work on both consumers and enterprise level. It really gives you a peace of mind. I have never lost any data due to HDD failures thanks to RAID 1, RAID 5, and RAID 10. They have saved my ass so many times. Yeah well in my experience I don't have single drive failures.
I have multiple drives fail at the same time -its just a force of nature around me. When one fails others fail as well.
RAID in my case would need the mirrored drive to be mirrored and that be mirrored and all of that to be cloned too.
For me to just have Redundancy for one or two drives in a RAID seems horrible -this is just for me personally.
I know RAID works for most and I have no problems with it for them. It just that when you get into the level of redundancy I would so desire the price to desire ratio is far to high.
While its true that I have 5 off-site backups I have two onsite: 1 offline that is only powered when needed for restoration or backing up. The other is just the second computer in this building that is a cloned copy of this system -that doesn't have internet. My other backups are more... complicated but lets just say that they can be reached in usual trek to and from towns nearby.
So nothing severely out of the way but they sure hurt the brain when all of them superimpose themselves over the other trying to fight for supremacy in the brain all at the same time.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Sept 8, 2021 17:02:53 GMT
Let me be more specific though: I currently have about 10 TB of the exact same data stored in 6 to 7 different places.
Same videos, same music, same games ect. What hurt my brain was thinking on the current state of the backups of each one all at the same time.
Of course that'd give you a headache. Having an NAS would make backing up your data AND accessing your data so much simpler and easier. I think one of us goofed or at least I know I have. I was referring to the hard drives for my main system not the drives for my backup. My back up you can understand is quite thorough. The characteristic of NAS that always makes me shun it is the always on state and the internet setup. I don't like backups connected to the internet nor always being on. My backups are in a powered off state unless restoring or backing up and NEVER internet active. Personally the whole system MUST BE disconnected from the internet when restoring or backing up.
When you get hacked, ransomed and or virus's when backing up by the internet being active -you learn not to. Granted that was a long time ago -you never forget the loss of data -even in the back up.
So I swore then and now: Never again.
Now I understand it for the those who back up data a little bit at a time. I have no problem setting aside days to back up EVERYTHING. Take some leave time and use it to back up data is fine with me. I have no social life so its not a problem for me. 
Sorry for the confusion.
But with me you can enjoy expecting confusion and misunderstanding.
My family still doesn't understand me half the time -if at all.
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Post by bmwcrazy on Sept 8, 2021 17:08:34 GMT
I think one of us goofed or at least I know I have. I was referring to the hard drives for my main system not the drives for my backup. My back up you can understand is quite thorough. The characteristic of NAS that always makes me shun it is the always on state and the internet setup. I don't like backups connected to the internet nor always being on. My backups are in a powered off state unless restoring or backing up and NEVER internet active. Personally the whole system MUST BE disconnected from the internet when restoring or backing up.
When you get hacked, ransomed and or virus's when backing up by the internet being active -you learn not to. Granted that was a long time ago -you never forget the loss of data -even in the back up.
So I swore then and now: Never again.
Now I understand it for the those who back up data a little bit at a time. I have no problem setting aside days to back up EVERYTHING. Take some leave time and use it to back up data is fine with me. I have no social life so its not a problem for me.
Sorry for the confusion.
I don't think you understands how NAS works. NAS means network-attached storage. It's connected to your home network. So any computers or supported devices on your local network can access it. You don't need internet connection at all.
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Post by bmwcrazy on Sept 8, 2021 17:11:33 GMT
It just that when you get into the level of redundancy I would so desire the price to desire ratio is far to high.
How is that any more expensive than this? Let me be more specific though: I currently have about 10 TB of the exact same data stored in 6 to 7 different places.
Same videos, same music, same games ect. What hurt my brain was thinking on the current state of the backups of each one all at the same time.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Sept 8, 2021 17:19:43 GMT
I use a 4-drive bay from Orico (my dad recommended that company to me after he'd purchased a 2 drive bay and has used his for close to 5 years with no incidents). He told me the company to stay away from, far away from was StarTech-- which I agree with. But my 4-drive bay enclosure is capable of 64-TB though I only have two Blue 2TB Drive and one Green 1....so 5 GB. One of the WD Blues has my movie library on it-- or part of it. I have over 200 DVDs and BDs. I have only a fraction of them digitized from when I used CLONE BD and AnyDVD back in the day when AnyDVD was free to me. I also am missing a 5.25 inch drive bay in my case but with most of my game library now in the form of Digital Downloads I don't need one. You probably mean this: Or this: This has no firmware needed or required they are just an external hard drive right? This would be the closest thing to a NAS as I would ever get.
Yes this bottom picture is the exact model I have. The top picture with the dual bays is the model I my dad bought previously. I bought the 4-drive bay pictured on the bottom for 189.99 CAD including tax......But now it is with 589.99 on Amazon.ca so I'm glad I bought it when I did.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Sept 8, 2021 18:06:01 GMT
You probably mean this: Or this: This has no firmware needed or required they are just an external hard drive right? This would be the closest thing to a NAS as I would ever get.
Yes this bottom picture is the exact model I have. The top picture with the dual bays is the model I my dad bought previously. I bought the 4-drive bay pictured on the bottom for 189.99 CAD including tax......But now it is with 589.99 on Amazon.ca so I'm glad I bought it when I did. Yeah that hurts its $120 for the two bay here and $210 for the four bay. Sometimes I wish they would just service all countries equally but then again human nature for greed usually wins. 
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