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Post by rewindbutton on Feb 11, 2021 10:29:33 GMT
It is indeed a shame the number of sites that demand accounts. Glad imgbb.com/ is among those that still have it optional. I'm going to give this a try. Bear with me.
BTW, I'm getting confused skipping between the two PC threads... 
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Post by rewindbutton on Feb 11, 2021 10:54:24 GMT
An old pic for testing only. edit: It will autodelete in a month.
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Post by rewindbutton on Feb 11, 2021 11:08:29 GMT
Yeah. Thought so last time I used Fruity Loops was on Vista. And it may have been my already customized setup then but the OS was very unstable with it.
Those hoops and hurdles though for me was part of the fun... I know most don't find debugging fun but I did. Plus a hammer was always by my side....
Debugging certainly is fun. But editing registry and installing some obscure third party driver to get BT working, not so much. Because someone had to haul his sorry ass up and down the stairs for weeks, until all the PCs were working again. Ahh, the glorious life of on-site support. 
Nowadays you would do everything remotely of course.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Feb 11, 2021 11:16:40 GMT
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Post by rewindbutton on Feb 11, 2021 11:48:53 GMT
Yes the PSU is an absolute component not to ever skimp on. Most say you don't need much wattage above what your system uses.
I however disagree with this -IF building for a longevity system: That said how much head room do you give your PSU? [snip]
Well, that's the problem; I'm not exactly made of money. But I did specialize in PSUs in my studies, and yes, I am steadfastly in the overkill wattage -camp. The way I see it, is commercial PSUs are mostly rubbish anyway, so you have to overkill to get better components. And more power means better cooling and probably a longer lifespan. MIL-spec industrial would be the way to go, but there's the price and the fact that they are not meant to be quiet, so you'd have to mod the cooling before using it in an home environment.
My PSUs have been in the 950W-1kW range, giving me plenty of margin (about 300W or so).
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Post by rewindbutton on Feb 11, 2021 11:50:24 GMT
An old pic for testing only. edit: It will autodelete in a month.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Feb 11, 2021 14:14:50 GMT
Yeah. Thought so last time I used Fruity Loops was on Vista. And it may have been my already customized setup then but the OS was very unstable with it.
Those hoops and hurdles though for me was part of the fun... I know most don't find debugging fun but I did. Plus a hammer was always by my side....
Debugging certainly is fun. But editing registry and installing some obscure third party driver to get BT working, not so much. Because someone had to haul his sorry ass up and down the stairs for weeks, until all the PCs were working again. Ahh, the glorious life of on-site support.
Nowadays you would do everything remotely of course.
I hate editing the registry...I've only ever done it once or twice myself but it was under the direction of my 'go to guy'. But typically these days I use CCleaner and Bit Defender to clean my Registry properly without doing any damage by doing the wrong thing.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Feb 11, 2021 14:16:36 GMT
Debugging certainly is fun. But editing registry and installing some obscure third party driver to get BT working, not so much. Because someone had to haul his sorry ass up and down the stairs for weeks, until all the PCs were working again. Ahh, the glorious life of on-site support.
Nowadays you would do everything remotely of course.
I hate editing the registry...I've only ever done it once or twice myself but it was under the direction of my 'go to guy'. But typically these days I use CCleaner and Bit Defender to clean my Registry properly without doing any damage by doing the wrong thing. I'm of the mind one should not auto-clean registry with those tools, might end up with non working OS if wrong keys are missing  Its a different thing if you know what to do.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Feb 11, 2021 14:24:14 GMT
I hate editing the registry...I've only ever done it once or twice myself but it was under the direction of my 'go to guy'. But typically these days I use CCleaner and Bit Defender to clean my Registry properly without doing any damage by doing the wrong thing. I'm of the mind one should not auto-clean registry with those tools, might end up with non working OS if wrong keys are missing Its a different thing if you know what to do. I agree, IF you know what you're doing and can do it properly then there's no problem and it's a great skill to have. I have been using things like BitDefender's Registry Cleaning feature and third-party programs like CCleaner for years and never had problems in that department (thankfully). But I do agree that they can cause problems, that's totally possible. Im just saying that I've been fortunate in not having problems using those programs.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Feb 12, 2021 2:35:25 GMT
I'm of the mind one should not auto-clean registry with those tools, might end up with non working OS if wrong keys are missing Its a different thing if you know what to do. I agree, IF you know what you're doing and can do it properly then there's no problem and it's a great skill to have. I have been using things like BitDefender's Registry Cleaning feature and third-party programs like CCleaner for years and never had problems in that department (thankfully). But I do agree that they can cause problems, that's totally possible. Im just saying that I've been fortunate in not having problems using those programs. I used to use two programs to clean the registry: CCleaner and a program called RegCure -good luck finding a good version today. I stopped using them when I started manually cleaning my registry with regedit. Since the problem with most of these programs is IF you clean registry with them and then run the programs again it still finds errors. Run the 2 or 10 times it hardly matters will always find more errors -unless you do it in safe mode from what I have seen.
Most likely has to do with the OS using certain registry entries while in use and will not delete what is being accessed.
Though... come to think of it RegCure did do better than CCleaner. Where is that program.... Edit: Found It:
Note:
Only the Pro version when registered would fix otherwise it would only scan. The price at the time if I remember was about 40 USD -we are talking 2006 or so.
After that though it doesn't exist anymore since its code was stolen and people ended up being scammed. Anyone claiming it is a scam in the beginning was not born when it was born.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Feb 12, 2021 8:02:30 GMT
What are you people using these tools on registry? I mean there was a reason back in the ye'olde xp days when installers f'd up a lot of things, but I dont get personally why would I run it now. Then again I am not installing & uninstalling stuff all the time like back in the days |
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Post by rewindbutton on Feb 12, 2021 9:27:26 GMT
What are you people using these tools on registry? I mean there was a reason back in the ye'olde xp days when installers f'd up a lot of things, but I dont get personally why would I run it now. Then again I am not installing & uninstalling stuff all the time like back in the days  I agree, registry cleaning is pretty much a thing of the past. It used to be necessary, but not anymore.
I used to do that too. The good old days, there were so many ways to mess up your PC good and proper.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Feb 12, 2021 13:32:54 GMT
What are you people using these tools on registry? I mean there was a reason back in the ye'olde xp days when installers f'd up a lot of things, but I dont get personally why would I run it now. Then again I am not installing & uninstalling stuff all the time like back in the days I agree, registry cleaning is pretty much a thing of the past. It used to be necessary, but not anymore.
I used to do that too. The good old days, there were so many ways to mess up your PC good and proper.  This ironically enough is still a thing -at least for me. Windows 10 has an annoying habit of corrupting installs -like the Afterburner thing -EVEN with most current version. Sometimes a program just gets corrupted and needs a reinstall. Not to mention Windows 10 sometimes installs programs' in a different location than where it originally was. I have at least 10 programs I use that need to constantly be reinstalled. Have to install to D drive while deleting the same program from C drive reboot and delete from D to reinstall to C Just to have it corrupt and then have to install it to F where it now works.
Good grief!
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Feb 12, 2021 14:30:48 GMT
I agree, registry cleaning is pretty much a thing of the past. It used to be necessary, but not anymore.
I used to do that too. The good old days, there were so many ways to mess up your PC good and proper. This ironically enough is still a thing -at least for me. Windows 10 has an annoying habit of corrupting installs -like the Afterburner thing -EVEN with most current version. Sometimes a program just gets corrupted and needs a reinstall. Not to mention Windows 10 sometimes installs programs' in a different location than where it originally was. I have at least 10 programs I use that need to constantly be reinstalled. Have to install to D drive while deleting the same program from C drive reboot and delete from D to reinstall to C Just to have it corrupt and then have to install it to F where it now works.
Good grief!
Huh  that sounds very strange, very very strange. Brings me memories of VIA KT133-266 SATA driver hell. You wanted to install that because it gave you more bandwidth (speed) but what it did actually was corrupting data a bit by bit until it hit some system dll or such and machine would not boot anymore. Good I had installed it on all 25 new machines  - well good I had one image from which to restore and remove the driver
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Feb 13, 2021 3:14:22 GMT
This ironically enough is still a thing -at least for me. Windows 10 has an annoying habit of corrupting installs -like the Afterburner thing -EVEN with most current version. Sometimes a program just gets corrupted and needs a reinstall. Not to mention Windows 10 sometimes installs programs' in a different location than where it originally was. I have at least 10 programs I use that need to constantly be reinstalled. Have to install to D drive while deleting the same program from C drive reboot and delete from D to reinstall to C Just to have it corrupt and then have to install it to F where it now works.
Good grief!
Huh  that sounds very strange, very very strange. Brings me memories of VIA KT133-266 SATA driver hell. You wanted to install that because it gave you more bandwidth (speed) but what it did actually was corrupting data a bit by bit until it hit some system dll or such and machine would not boot anymore. Good I had installed it on all 25 new machines  - well good I had one image from which to restore and remove the driver Yeah. Since now being on Win 10 Enterprise and not having updated in over a year have not seen it rear its head yet... That said I back up the exe's in zip folders so even if it does I can revert quickly. The odd thing about even this odd thing is that the corruption never touches zip folders. It is strange indeed though.
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Post by rewindbutton on Feb 13, 2021 16:41:08 GMT
Huh that sounds very strange, very very strange. Brings me memories of VIA KT133-266 SATA driver hell. You wanted to install that because it gave you more bandwidth (speed) but what it did actually was corrupting data a bit by bit until it hit some system dll or such and machine would not boot anymore. Good I had installed it on all 25 new machines - well good I had one image from which to restore and remove the driver Yeah. Since now being on Win 10 Enterprise and not having updated in over a year have not seen it rear its head yet... That said I back up the exe's in zip folders so even if it does I can revert quickly. The odd thing about even this odd thing is that the corruption never touches zip folders. It is strange indeed though.
I have some ideas on this, but answering directly would be outside the scope of this thread. You could start by reading about Creeping or Silent Data Loss or Corruption. And Unicephalon's experiences may well be connected, because this reminded me about an old case where the culprit turned out to be a mangled SCSI cable.
The zip files are less likely to be affected, because they are treated as a one big file. Lots of small files get corrupted much more easily. I'll get back to you later.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Feb 14, 2021 7:08:13 GMT
Yeah. Since now being on Win 10 Enterprise and not having updated in over a year have not seen it rear its head yet... That said I back up the exe's in zip folders so even if it does I can revert quickly. The odd thing about even this odd thing is that the corruption never touches zip folders. It is strange indeed though.
I have some ideas on this, but answering directly would be outside the scope of this thread. You could start by reading about Creeping or Silent Data Loss or Corruption. And Unicephalon's experiences may well be connected, because this reminded me about an old case where the culprit turned out to be a mangled SCSI cable.
The zip files are less likely to be affected, because they are treated as a one big file. Lots of small files get corrupted much more easily. I'll get back to you later.
Yeah. Maybe corruption. Have encountered that many times.
Doubt it was creeping -usually heard that connected to feature bloatware or feature creep. Not usually in data corruption/loss.
Maybe I just lucky not to encounter it -unless that is what it was.
I think it may have been a corrupted mess of a Win install from a corrupted install disk. On this OS install so far it has not shown up. Except the Afterburner and if I run as admin it still runs. Just says files are corrupted but still runs.
Though I am still in the contention that I have done something with this OS that haven't done before. I am keeping at least 10% free on all my drives.
Maybe that could actually be the culprit. Since before this OS install I would fill up every drive till only had 100 GB free. Yes 1% free space or less. Ain't that the most horrid thing for a hardware techie? 
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Post by rewindbutton on Feb 16, 2021 10:10:37 GMT
Here's my thought process and how I would approach the issue.
I believe this is a case of Silent Corruption (data loss without warning, it just goes bad). You have told us that you have lots of drives and have heavy data usage. We know from experience that hardware failure is almost always the reason for this type of data loss. And we know, that HDDs are most likely to fail first.
I recommend that you run your HDD manufacturer's diagnostic software first, and the read/write test in particular. Take backups first, just in case. If your HDDs pass with flying colours, I'd check the SATA cables next for hard turns or kinks. If you have a spare lying around, you might want to change the cable connecting the drive that's giving trouble.
Silent data corruption is different from your typical HDD fail, which seldom goes unnoticed. Basically any part of your I/O-stream can corrupt data, and worse still, it may even evade CRCs and Checksums. It is unknown for most people, which is a bummer when trying to convince people that their company needs some kind of data integrity protocol in place.
Oh, and I like to call it Creeping Corruption, because I find it more descriptive, but it is commonly known as Silent Data Corruption. Nothing to do with memory creep etc. And I don't think it matters that your disks are at capacity, since they are storage disks. The margin for bad sectors resides in the unallocated space.
One more thing. My file server used to be a Linux PC (for obvious reasons) but it died on me. I couldn't get a suitable replacement, so it's just a regular Win10 PC now. It started having read errors, so I backed everything up and installed a replacement drive. I left the bad disk in place and ran CHKDSK just for the fun of it, and nothing! A Completely fine and OK drive. A week later it bricked on me. No SMART warning was ever shown. So don't trust diagnostics too much when you start getting errors.
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Post by ALTBOULI on Feb 16, 2021 22:39:02 GMT
Built my first gaming PC about 2 weeks ago, not going to lie I'm proud of how it turned out.
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Post by bmwcrazy on Feb 17, 2021 2:04:00 GMT
Built my first gaming PC about 2 weeks ago, not going to lie I'm proud of how it turned out. Ryzen 5800x Sapphire Radeon 6800 Nitro+ MSI x570 Tomahawk Samsung 970 Evo plus NVME (1TB + 256GB) Noctua 140mm pwm fans Noctua NH-D15 cooler Phanteks P500A case The difference going from an Xbox One and PS4 is pretty noticeable. Playing a few games at native 4k is a huge step up for me Very nice. The Tomahawk is a great mobo for overclocking. Right now it's probably the worst time to try to build a new PC. It's impressive that you managed to get a 5800X and an RX 6800.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Feb 17, 2021 7:39:48 GMT
Here's my thought process and how I would approach the issue. I believe this is a case of Silent Corruption (data loss without warning, it just goes bad). You have told us that you have lots of drives and have heavy data usage. We know from experience that hardware failure is almost always the reason for this type of data loss. And we know, that HDDs are most likely to fail first. I recommend that you run your HDD manufacturer's diagnostic software first, and the read/write test in particular. Take backups first, just in case. If your HDDs pass with flying colours, I'd check the SATA cables next for hard turns or kinks. If you have a spare lying around, you might want to change the cable connecting the drive that's giving trouble. Hard Drives are all in excellent shape. Checked with Crystal Disk Info and all are in the blue. Got 20000+ Hours on most but no S.M.A.R.T. code errors: Especially no Write Error Rate, Reallocation Event Count or Seek Error Rate.
Silent data corruption is different from your typical HDD fail, which seldom goes unnoticed. Basically any part of your I/O-stream can corrupt data, and worse still, it may even evade CRCs and Checksums. It is unknown for most people, which is a bummer when trying to convince people that their company needs some kind of data integrity protocol in place. Oh, and I like to call it Creeping Corruption, because I find it more descriptive, but it is commonly known as Silent Data Corruption. Nothing to do with memory creep etc. And I don't think it matters that your disks are at capacity, since they are storage disks. The margin for bad sectors resides in the unallocated space. Very well.
They are used daily not storage disks.
I use ALOT of space in video and audio editing. My game drive also gets a work out as well daily.
One more thing. My file server used to be a Linux PC (for obvious reasons) but it died on me. I couldn't get a suitable replacement, so it's just a regular Win10 PC now. It started having read errors, so I backed everything up and installed a replacement drive. I left the bad disk in place and ran CHKDSK just for the fun of it, and nothing! A Completely fine and OK drive. A week later it bricked on me. No SMART warning was ever shown. So don't trust diagnostics too much when you start getting errors. I didn't get read or write errors when this happened.
Just corrupt .exe files.
For example say this happened to Masseffect.exe
When trying to run it nothing would happen. Now if you look and the size of the normal exe it will say about 20000 KB or so Now look at the one that will not and it will say 234 KB or 15000 KB or so. Though:
Yeah. Since now being on Win 10 Enterprise and not having updated in over a year have not seen it rear its head yet... That said I back up the exe's in zip folders so even if it does I can revert quickly. The odd thing about even this odd thing is that the corruption never touches zip folders. It is strange indeed though.
It seems most likely to me that it was a corrupt OS install that degraded overtime. And since I didn't use that disk to install this OS and haven't had it appear again
I believe that could have been it.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Feb 17, 2021 7:40:25 GMT
Built my first gaming PC about 2 weeks ago, not going to lie I'm proud of how it turned out. Ryzen 5800x Sapphire Radeon 6800 Nitro+ MSI x570 Tomahawk Samsung 970 Evo plus NVME (1TB + 256GB) Noctua 140mm pwm fans Noctua NH-D15 cooler Phanteks P500A case The difference going from an Xbox One and PS4 is pretty noticeable. Playing a few games at native 4k is a huge step up for me Very nice. The Tomahawk is a great mobo for overclocking. Right now it's probably the worst time to try to build a new PC. It's impressive that you managed to get a 5800X and an RX 6800. I know I want a X570 for my build. The only draw back is that chipset fan... I just...
Ugh!
What was AMD thinking? At least give us a 3rd party options for it please.
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Post by rewindbutton on Feb 17, 2021 9:11:24 GMT
Built my first gaming PC about 2 weeks ago, not going to lie I'm proud of how it turned out. [snip] That is awesome! And you should be proud; you took the plunge and it paid off. Good choices too.
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Post by rewindbutton on Feb 17, 2021 9:19:11 GMT
Hard Drives are all in excellent shape. Checked with Crystal Disk Info and all are in the blue. Got 20000+ Hours on most but no S.M.A.R.T. code errors: Especially no Write Error Rate, Reallocation Event Count or Seek Error Rate.
I didn't get read or write errors when this happened. Just corrupt .exe files.
For example say this happened to Masseffect.exe
When trying to run it nothing would happen. Now if you look and the size of the normal exe it will say about 20000 KB or so Now look at the one that will not and it will say 234 KB or 15000 KB or so. Okay, I misunderstood, my bad. But if only the EXEs get corrupted, it is most certainly software related.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Feb 17, 2021 13:39:53 GMT
Hard Drives are all in excellent shape. Checked with Crystal Disk Info and all are in the blue. Got 20000+ Hours on most but no S.M.A.R.T. code errors: Especially no Write Error Rate, Reallocation Event Count or Seek Error Rate.
I didn't get read or write errors when this happened. Just corrupt .exe files.
For example say this happened to Masseffect.exe
When trying to run it nothing would happen. Now if you look and the size of the normal exe it will say about 20000 KB or so Now look at the one that will not and it will say 234 KB or 15000 KB or so. Okay, I misunderstood, my bad. But if only the EXEs get corrupted, it is most certainly software related. No problems. I believe it was a corrupted Windows 10 Install media. Yes I took the Win 10 Enterprise ISO and burned it to a disk. The first disk must have been corrupted. The disk I used for this install has so far worked without issue for over a year it is the only difference that I can think between the two OS's.
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that sounds very strange, very very strange. Brings me memories of VIA KT133-266 SATA driver hell. You wanted to install that because it gave you more bandwidth (speed) but what it did actually was corrupting data a bit by bit until it hit some system dll or such and machine would not boot anymore.
- well good I had one image from which to restore and remove the driver 
that sounds very strange, very very strange. Brings me memories of VIA KT133-266 SATA driver hell. You wanted to install that because it gave you more bandwidth (speed) but what it did actually was corrupting data a bit by bit until it hit some system dll or such and machine would not boot anymore.
- well good I had one image from which to restore and remove the driver 
