End of Year PC Build

DragonKingReborn
So I am a building noob... Pfft. I am proud of it.
Things usually work the first time round for me.
That is not ego I just plan, plan & plan everything out...
Then I take action.
Kind of like combining both of these:


AND:

That explains why I missed it -sorry. Me and jokes don't usually get along. Knocks knocks are about the closest I get to really understanding joke. I always get blamed for being too literal or taking things too seriously. Maybe I just don't get the playful nature of people -if that is what it is? Noted. Learning from the pros can definately leave a lasting impression. I have no stake in the comfort of familiar since I have never done this before.

Knowledge added.
Where would cherry lumber fall in these definitions? 

Budget is everything, if we are talking lumber in 2024. My built-in I just finished, has two 24x24x96 closet encasing a window bench that is 68" wide, with shelves above the end drawers of the bench also going to the ceiling. 7 drawers made, 4 doors and 8 drawer faces made (false drawer front for an air vent).

I am not a professional, but I just bought a lot of wood to do that job. If budget is no issue, walnut oak or cherry make it lovely. If you are on a regular budget but want a nice result, baltic birch plywood will be costly but worth it for the quality of the material. If that is still too rich, I feel confident that you can get a nice result with BC sanded pine plywood.

As for thickness to support 200kg - all depends on the spacing of the support. 3/4 can't handle that without good support, but with proper support 3/4 (18/19mm) is plenty. Show us a drawing, I can tell you more... my skills have grown enough where I will talk a little if I know something.

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Had to replace my second G703 today. First one was RMA, this second one held on for a while, although I know that was done with a software fix for their bad switch design (double clicking on any click is my issue). What put it over the top, was starting a game of ME3MP today and when I right-clicked to zoom, I was getting googly eyes like I had just seen boobies or something. Had to quit immediately, and go to MicroCenter.

Bought the Razer Viper v3 Pro. Very light compared to the G703, which will take some getting used to. Immediately noticed proper clicking behavior an hour ago in a run of 3 MP matches, much much better overall... I had known that I was having left-click double clicks, but those are somewhat manageable and mitigated by their software "fix". The right-click.. NUPE.

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Gamestream is dead. So, now, is Nvidia to me. The 3070 is my last team green thing ever, I can say with honesty. I'm all with Linus and EVGA - fuck Nvidia. They have kept the Shield alive longer than I expected with updates, but turning off the reason I bought the damned thing is a pretty shit move. I invested in their eco for years, and that is over. Since I was at MicroCenter, looked at 5600G and some inexpensive motherboards... I will wait for the next gen G series, and that will be the new HTPC build. Nvidia told us to use Steam Link.... LOL ok buddy.

The Gigabyte Windforce series is your middle-of-the-road offering from Gigabyte (according to Gigabyte reps)....If you're looking for build quality and performance that equals the FTW 3 from EVGA, the step up would be the AORUS division and its MASTER line up.   Over all though, Gigabyte is pretty equal to EVGA especially offering a 4 year warranty on their GPUs where most other companies only affer 2 or 3 year warranties.


I'm kind jealous.   I like my 2080 Super FTW 3 Ultra Gaming, it was the card I wanted originally so I got what I was planning on because I couldn't afford the 2080 TI and the 30 series had yet to be released-- and then when it was, it had all those problems, so I counted myself fortunate....But now I'm just hoping that my 2080 and 10900K will run Jedi Survivor at 4K like it does Fallen Order where as if I had a 13900K and a 3090 or 4090 I'd be laughing at 4K:  *Mocking Tone* (please..... My system can run 8K at 120!)

But all in all I'm sure I will be just fine for several more years.....and with your new beasty, I know you will.

Good on ya!    I hope you have a Merry CHristmas and happy new year!        


Stay safe and warm.

First Gigabytes's series is more diverse than EVGA...
I think EVGA had three tiers. 
Gigabyte has what?... 

G. Windforce, G. AERO, G. GAMING, G. EAGLE, -& then: AORUS ELITE, AORUS Master & AORUS XTREME WATERFORCE...
I think that is all of them -not sure if that is the price range order though. So basically two tiers with much greater diversity in the tiers. 
So it is easier to pick and know what your are getting for you money indeed. 

For the RTX 3090, EVGA had like six different models. The XC3, XC3 Black, XC3 Ultra, FTW3, FTW3 Ultra (what I have), and the Kingpin Hybrid.

Gigabyte has four different RTX 4090 models for now. There's the Windforce, Waterforce, Gaming OC, and AORUS Master.

Apparently, it's pretty common for newer Zotac cards to have fans that rattle. My Zotac GTX 1080 AMP Extreme also had fans that made slight rattling noise. Some RTX 4090 owners even returned their Zotac cards because of it.

Returning them doesn't mean throwing them away. These are expensive GPUs and no one is throwing them away. Haha.

Zotac will fix them up, sell them as refurbished products or save them for RMA replacements.

When normal people pay $1600-$1700 for a single GPU, there are some expectations that come with that kind of price tag. Including above average quality control and in this case, fans that actually don't rattle. It's not even that much to ask for. These fans don't even cost that much. Just source better ones from OEM suppliers for a couple cents more. This is just Zotac's cost cutting. So I can't fault people for returning their brand new Zotac cards because of rattling fans. It's their hard-earned money.

Haha. Unfortunately, the majority of people don't share your opinions.

There are actual trivial things that your average customers can easily fix themselves but you can't fix coil whine. You can try to replacing other components like your PSU to minimize it, but that's not guaranteed fix. You either return the product or learn to live with it.

It is also unreasonable to expect buyers to replace the defective fans by themselves on a brand new product that's still under warranty. Especially when it costs $1600-$1700.

Premium price tags should come with premium quality or at least customer care.

Nope, that's just the reality.

Every electronic component has coil whine and some are just more noticeable than others. If you get annoying and audible coil whine from your video card, it isn't something that you can fix it yourself like replacing a rattling fan.

Sometimes using a different PSU might help dampening it. You can also try limiting the framerate, changing voltage, or underclocking the GPU, but the coil whine will always be there. You can also turn up the fans to drown it out or move your PC farther away from you, but that's pretty much all you can do to "fix" it other than replacing it with another video card.

A lot of people have already returned their MSI and Asus 4090 cards because of coil whine. Remember, the 4090 are still constantly out of stock and quite difficult to obtain for MSRP. If the owners are returning them and the retailers/manufacturers are accepting these returns, you know the coil whine on these cards are pretty bad.

Keep in mind that manufacturers don't consider coil whine as a "defect" since it doesn't affect the performance or the functionality of the product.

I doubt this and would even consider it hogwash to an extent. 
Coil whine is energy vibration at the core of the issue and it can be more or less eliminated.

There are four things you didn't mention and they remove FAR more coil whine than those "tweaks" you mention.
1. Depending on the connections -using devoted GPU connectors from the PSU -not a splitted design -one per GPU plug.
2. Removing the GPU backplate can actually reduce coil whine. 
3. The big one: www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/how-to-quickly-easily-fix-coil-whine-coil-choke-noise.294015/
Note here: It HAS TO BE a Cyanoacrylate base that is used on the chokes -anything different is bound to lead to problems. 
4. One other going off the last -is using silicone and zip tie method but unlike method three its either hit or miss. This time it hits:
Doing ALL of this plus what you mention -except moving the case and you can be almost certain that Coil Whine will either be gone or ALOT and I mean ALOT less. 

I just find returning a product for something that doesn't affect its performance ridiculous. 
For me if its not functioning correctly then I will find a way to make it work better.  

Sorry maybe I should be technical...

I was saying that this specific quote:
Was hogwash. Not that fact the coil whine doesn't exist. As my post would rather seem to stipulate.
Yep. 4000 series are limited from this... maybe 4000 series deserves its coil whine?
4000 series RIP the series of goof ups and mistakes and backpedals. 
The EVGA needed the backplate to cool it? Didn't think it was liquid... it isn't right?
Sometimes to get the best result you go to do what may take lots of time but usually the reward is quite rewarding.
Your welcome and it is sad that people don't want to learn to make something better for themselves. Where did the hard work ethic go in America?
Kinda of hard to do since that would require removing the zip-ties and reattaching the shroud and putting the default non IceGales back on there. What? I figured I would do something since it is still taking forever for those two things to arrive. AND THE MINUTE I GO TO GET THE HARD DRIVES -THEY ARE ON BACK ORDER!!!...
IF NOT by new year that is it I am going for Amazon for hard drives!