End of Year PC Build

My 2c on where the current conversation is going...

I want to agree with Vanguardian, but I must admit to ultimately agreeing with bmw.

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For premium products like these, you are placing the onus of Quality Control on the consumer, not the corporation. This is upside down and backwards.

Yes, we should be able to repair everything. Yes, we should try to repair before replacing, if it is something that has worn down over time/from use. We should not be doing hardware beta-testing for Asus/MSI/GB etc, we should not feel bad if we don't have time or interest in working extra and paying more time into getting proper performance out of the premium product we literally just bought and paid for.

If it is new, and it is underperforming, it should be returned to the manufacturer. Does this horrify me, with the amount of e-waste we create on a constant basis due to planned obsolescence and profit-first "maximal" business processes that allow for the constant creation of substandard product that perpetuates the cycle? You know it does, it disgusts me, it hurts me, it is killing all of us. Anyone blind to that, especially in this thread, is in deep denial or doesn't care... we are all smart here. But... This is a matter of principal, we have only one way to speak to these corporations, and it is with our wallets and then with demanding that they give us what we paid for.

This is the result when profit is the only motivation.

Pride in craftsmanship is what we desperately need to return, at the C-suite level. This requires telling your shareholders to be happy with less dividends and slower wealth building.

As long as America operates on the "fuck you, I've got mine" mindset, this will continue. As an American, I can say without any doubt in my mind that this country is overdue for a reset and a reckoning. I would leave this place yesterday if I could, but a part of me looks forward to pitchforks.

Westinghouse lightbulb still burning. That's the model.

So just for fun I decided to price what it would cost to be a brand new PC from the ground up as if I needed everything for the first time....and to get components that are equal to or slightly better than what I have now it would cost just a few bucks shy of $10,000 CAD! And aside from the GPUs, what is most expensive is the RAM at 700 CAD for 32 GB of DDR5.


Man, I would not want to be needing a new PC within the next three years because I don't see these prices dropping any time soon. The market is just insane. At those prices....Not that I want to upgrade even within the next two years but as things stand right now I might as well stick with my current set up until it literally gives up the ghost and won't even turn on anymore. There's not a single component (priced in CAD) that I would say is "a reasonable cost". Everything is ridiculously expensive.

Finally got the CableMod 12VHPWR cable, so I wouldn't need to keep using the huge 4x8-pin Nvidia adapter. It's assuring that Seasonic are actually recommending people the CableMod cables while they're still working on their own.

So this has concluded my GPU upgrade for this system. Everything fits and I don't even need to vertically mount the card and give up my sound card.

The next gen GPUs will require much faster CPUs to drive them. I'm very much looking forward to building an all PCIe 5.0 and DDR5 system. Maybe in two years?

More like ten years at these prices.
Still... anything Seasonic ---> .
The new EVGA... I swear if they start making GPU's it will not surprise me.

www.cpu-rumor.com/update-intel-meteor-lake-and-arrow-lake-desktop-cpus-will-use-lga-1851-socket/
Rumor mill gets started. The redactions shall begin.

The RTX 4090 are built using TSMC's 4nm node and they are much more efficient than the RTX 30-series GPUs.

The peak power draw on my RTX 4090 is at an eye-watering 600 watts. But because I'm limiting the framerate to 140 FPS on my 144hz monitor due to G-Sync, the 4090 is actually drawing about 100 watts less on average than my 3090 while getting more framerate. In most games, the GPU fans only spin occasionally. It is almost silent.

So surprisingly, the 4090 uses less power and produces less heat than my 3090 with the framerate capped. Even in demanding games like Cyberpunk 2077 and Flight Sim 2020 that rarely hit the 140 FPS limit, the total system power draw is still lower. By upgrading to a 4090, it has lowered the internal case temp and also the CPU temp. This is going to make gaming in summer much more enjoyable. I'm very happy with it.

The flashy-thingy behaviour is back since last night.....and it's really starting to piss me off. I only have so many USB ports, I can't keep switching things back and forth because eventually I'm always gonna be using one or more than doesn't work properly.


I'm tempted to RMA my Board

Nope, that's not how it works.
You are already bottlenecked by the GPU, and your CPU has some overhead.

That said, upgrading to 12th or 13th gen will boost your performance, provided you get a fast board+memory combo and upgrade to M.2 and run everything off of it. Alas, you'd still be bottlenecked by the GPU.

Being GPU bottlenecked is the general goal nowadays. You reached it. There is no reason to upgrade if you are happy with the performance. Every system has a bottleneck somewhere.

Upgrading the CPU will not free up the GPU. If anything, it might push it even a bit more. A CPU change might improve your 0.1% and 1% lows, which should make the gameplay feel smoother, even if the average FPS doesn't really change. But there is no guarantee you will feel such a change. Everyone has different tolerances to mini-stutters. Some people notice them, some don't.

For your CPU, anything around 3070 and up to 3090 should be fine for 1440p. For 4k, you should start looking from at least a 3080 with 12GB.

For 1080p, you are fine with a 3050. I wouldn't go higher than a 3060Ti if you plan to keep that resolution.