The Pyjack's Den! The ME News Discussion Thread

10 year wait between DAI and Dragon Age Dreadwolf (2014 --> Holiday 2024?) and 10 year wait between MEA and ME5 (2017 --> Holiday 2027?)

I didn't think the wait times would become so long ...

On an unrelated note, I had told myself 2-3 years ago that I would build a new gaming PC when either Dreadwolf, ME5, or the KOTOR remake release. Looks like I can afford to be patient for a while longer.  

Depends entirely on how efficient their UE5 pipeline is.

Thank God no more open world! Let's be honest BioWare sucks at making open world games and they should stick to what they do best.

I don't play Mass effect to "explore" wastelands with the mako. Linear world with open story has worked so far in the trilogy.

I believe it will take 160 years.

5 reboots? hmmm

Instead of the main character being named Shepard, the main character's name is Taylor for the first reboot.
Bioware reboots it a second time with the main character named Gardner. This reboot did so well it produced it's own cooking show.
The third reboot featured the name TIM. This reboot did very well. Bioware was on a roll. Fans were loving it.
The 4th reboot used the name Harbinger. What can Bioware say, the name Harbinger is awesome.
The latest reboot blew away all the other reboots. The name of the main character was space Hamster. 

"Mass Effect Andromeda was quite a failure in many facets that left a sour aftertaste in the mouths of gamers."

It is no conspiracy, for Cyberpunk 2077 even upon release the story and world (developed on the Mike Pondsmith original) got praise, and CDPR have a history of releasing messes that get fixed later- both The Witcher and Assassins of Kings were even more fucked up on release than Cyberpunk 2077 was, only Wild Hunt launched relatively stable.

Andromeda was mismanaged from the start, with a muddled direction, unremarkable story and realisation of the Andromeda galaxy, there was nothing to save inherent to it as it was, even had Bioware wanted to and had Electronic Arts let them.

Cyberpunk 2077 also had the benefit of being reinvigorated by Cyberpunk Edgerunners, a story CDPR wrote, Mass Effect could have had that in the Legendary Edition, but Bioware promptly abandoned it without the post launch support to thrive on for good press and the good will evaporated quickly.

In the end abandoning MEA was Bioware/ea's choice. The likes of Bethesda, CD, the No Man Sky's developers etc, managed to gain back some goodwill precisely because they continued to support and fix issues with their product.

Bioware by comparison essentially cut their losses and ran to work on Anthem. I like to rag on entitled gamers as much as the next guy but how can an audience give second chances when a developer makes no attempt to remedy things?

Aside from a few small patches, MEA is still the mess it was upon release. Meanwhile CD project are releasing a giant update for Cyberpunk next month.

They can certainly get redemption if DAD is good, but, that's the current state of things. Bioware essentially did the equivalent of farting in a room and closing the windows - leaving us all in it to deal with the consequences. I understand the mistrust.

This is incorrect. The truth is everybody had forgotten about Cyberpunk 2077 until an excellent anime production brought people's attention back to the game where, to everyone's surprise, the game was in a much better condition. After the anime launched peak players on Steam jumped from 18k to 136k and lasted for 2 months or more. That being said their reputation never fully recovered but the game got a second chance solely because of an amazing adaption.

Mass Effect doesn't have amazing adaptions, and actually nothing Bioware has amazing adaptions. Netflix's Edgerunners though was an amazing success.

Each day this week, more than a million people have signed in to play “Cyberpunk 2077” — and for good reason. There’s no better time than now to try or revisit 2020’s most infamous video game.

CD Projekt Red, the game’s developer, announced the stunning statistic Wednesday, a week after the debut of Netflix’s “Cyberpunk: Edgerunners,” an anime show based on the game that’s received rave reviews from critics and fans alike. Since the Netflix show dropped, “Cyberpunk 2077” has seen tens of thousands of people on Steam play it, the largest concurrent player base since the game’s December 2020 launch window.

It’s a reversal of fortunes for “Cyberpunk 2077.” Two years ago, the title suffered a disastrous and buggy launch after revelations that it performed poorly on consoles and didn’t deliver on the many promises implied by its years-long marketing campaign. In 2020, the game was a joke. Today, “it’s good now” is a common refrain from many players.

www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2022/09/23/cyberpunk-2077-netflix-edgerunners/

Based on discussions of Starfield by Bethesda fans, it seems like Bethesda fans have been conditioned to not expect a bug-free game, and they've even come to expect bugs as part of the "Bethesda Experience" because the bugs are frequently really funny. The UI / menu system has also been heavily criticised.

Based on these discussions, perhaps Bethesda's games are also somewhat less emotional experiences in general, less serious in tone, so if you approach them with a kind of relaxed attitude, expecting to play a game and not become fully immersed, then your reaction to bugs is going to be different. Someone described Starfield as "a game made by engineers for engineers". Mass Effect, on the other hand, is more focused on delivering an emotional experience.

And MEA failed in this aspect, so the bugs and unpolished aspects get undue emphasis.

But in CDPR's case, it goes much deeper than just It's a mess. The game was removed from Sony's stores at one point. There were plenty of emotional moments in Andromeda and the interactions between the characters has been Bioware's best so far.