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Post by AngryFrozenWater on Dec 26, 2021 21:37:57 GMT
I agree with the OP. I also think the reapers are not that much more advanced than we are in 2186. Sure, they have somewhat better weapons, drives and ships but it doesn't seem like anything really paradigm shifting. Given that the protheans wouldn't have been much more advanced than us and that they already started to build mass relay prototypes, even that technology doesn't seem to be that far away. They certainly don't seem more advanced than their original builders, the leviathans, which indicates that they didn't advance at all in the time they kept up the cycles. This also makes some sense, since it wasn't their function. However, it also makes the entire idea of the cycles as a measure to safeguard organic life rather ridiculous. After all, the reapers prevent advancement only in our (their) own galaxy. Presumably, in other galaxies this would not be the case. From Andromeda, we know that even humans have the tech to travel between galaxies, so one would assume the reapers would at least be aware that this tech may exist. Keeping the Milky Way stagnant like the reapers do seems very dangerous to me since they'd have to assume that eventually either organic or (more likely, given the reaper's logic) synthetic forces from another galaxy may come over that wouldn't have been in a billion+ year cycle. What then? Yes. If it is some kind of an universal law then synthetics would be fighting everywhere and if an organic/synthetic war is inevitable then signs of an intergalactic war would be visible everywhere in the universe. Yet, the Intelligence thinks that Shepard has the answer to this doomsday scenario: It allows an organic to select the destroy option, because reasons.
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Post by themikefest on Jan 22, 2022 13:55:59 GMT
Was it only two reaper artifacts encountered in the trilogy? One during that side mission in a mine in ME2. The other in Arrival dlc? Since this cycle found a few prothean artifacts hinting at something bad, I'm curious if previous civilizations before the protheans left a few artifacts for others to encounter? Preserving organic life? Ha. It's more like they're using the goo from organics to keep all that machinery lubricated. With regards to having a party. Harbinger would invite all reapers to gather at Club Darkspace to celebrate the harvest. Let's not forget the one that Jack Harper found in the lore. So that's three easy to find reaper artifacts. I'm sure previous cycles had their warnings about the reapers in their archives. But they were probably put in by some crazy scientist like Manuel (in ME1) so no one would believe it. My bad for not replying earlier. I did not mention the one Harper found because I've never read any of the comics. From what I remember it was never mentioned at all in the trilogy. It was dumb luck this cycle had any warning at all. Take away the altered signal from the protheans, this cycle would have been harvested long before Shepard showed up. What appears to be a repetitive thing is all previous civilizations found the plans for the crucible after the reapers showed up. What's surprising is none of those previous civilizations thought about using a time capsule like t'soni used for the next cycle to find. Somehow the next cycle built and used the crucible before the reapers showed up. They had enough time to add whatever to the crucible plans yet couldn't have a better means for the next cycle to find before the reapers showed up? I believe it was you that started the bad writing theory(bwt) on the old forum. Would that be applied to what I posted? Are the reapers advanced? No. How long did it take thing to decide to harvest Leviathan? Where did it get the technology for building a reaper with such firepower and defenses? Is it possible the lesser species had that technology? How about building the relay network? Did any of the civilizations have that technology? How much time passed between Leviathan being harvested and the relay network being built? Or rather how many cycles passed before the relays were built? Once the network was completed, all the reapers did was harvest, build another reaper, then repeat. Let's look at our world today. Look how much we have advanced in the last 100 years. Look at the stuff you remember when you were a child to what that stuff is now. How advanced to you believe we will be in 2183? I would bet today's military would beat the crap out of the Alliance in both land and air. The only exception would be space. Imagine what our military will be like in 2183? How would we fare against the reapers? Unless we have the same firepower as they do in 2183, we would lose. It would not be a stretch to say it's possible we would have advanced enough to beat the reapers. What is surprising in ME is the asari. In the time they discovered the Citadel, it appears they haven't advanced at all. Imagine what advances we would make in that period of time. The reapers harvest every 50,000 years. What would happen if it was 100,000 years? Would a species be much more advanced that it would be able to defeat the reapers? What if the harvest is only to prevent other species from kicking reaper a**? The organic vs synthetic conflict is just a cover-up. I know I'm into conspiracy theory territory, but it's just something to give a moment to think about.
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Post by AngryFrozenWater on Jan 22, 2022 20:17:23 GMT
The reapers harvest every 50,000 years. What would happen if it was 100,000 years? Would a species be much more advanced that it would be able to defeat the reapers? What if the harvest is only to prevent other species from kicking reaper a**? The organic vs synthetic conflict is just a cover-up. I know I'm into conspiracy theory territory, but it's just something to give a moment to think about. One of Sovereign's tasks was to check the advancement of a cycle. If the a species became too advanced then it would alert the other reapers and they would end their hibernation and start the harvesting. So yes, that was exactly what they did. They prevented other species to become dominant. A second purpose of the harvests: The leviathan mentioned that the Intelligence used evolution as a tool. That sounds like an eugenic experiment. Later the brat confirms this by mentioning that they attempted synthesis before, but that it always failed. There is a third purpose of the harvests: The harvest is the reaper's method of reproduction. Their species has to multiply or at least their population needs to be stable.
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Post by lordmoral on Jan 23, 2022 15:50:41 GMT
The reapers harvest every 50,000 years. What would happen if it was 100,000 years? Would a species be much more advanced that it would be able to defeat the reapers? What if the harvest is only to prevent other species from kicking reaper a**? The organic vs synthetic conflict is just a cover-up. I know I'm into conspiracy theory territory, but it's just something to give a moment to think about. One of Sovereign's tasks was to check the advancement of a cycle. If the a species became too advanced then it would alert the other reapers and they would end their hibernation and start the harvesting. So yes, that was exactly what they did. They prevented other species to become dominant. A second purpose of the harvests: The leviathan mentioned that the Intelligence used evolution as a tool. That sounds like an eugenic experiment. Later the brat confirms this by mentioning that they attempted synthesis before, but that it always failed. There is a third purpose of the harvests: The harvest is the reaper's method of reproduction. Their species has to multiply or at least their population needs to be stable. Good points all around.
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