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Post by Reznore on Apr 14, 2024 12:15:52 GMT
Watched it again and loved it. I just love moments like the brother checking out Vault 32 and seeing the mess. It's such a Fallout moment visiting your first super creepy vault and wondering what the hell happened.
There's a couple of retcon like the ghouls needing medication to not turn feral (guess it adds pathos to the Ghoul) and the fate of shady sands and the NCR. I'm expecting to see Mr House in season 2 and no courrier around, that's fine with me.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Apr 14, 2024 22:49:14 GMT
Episodes 2 & 3 down... Creepy mouth fingers... Glad to see the dog didn't stay dead, but what the hell is in those stim packs???? Is it just another nod to gaming? Which I'm fine with, but didn't think they'd go for a 'this magic injection heals anything' in a live action series.
So the Ghoul isn't totally immortal, then? The meds that were destroyed by the giant axolotl are part of his longevity. Lucy and her "okie dokie" is starting to look a lot like a coping mantra than a happy-go-lucky throwaway comment.
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Post by Hrungr on Apr 15, 2024 4:03:31 GMT
Finished watching Season 1 last night.
On the whole, I thought it was... pretty good.
The Ghoul's plotline was the best (and best acted), Lucy's (and the Vaults) were decent overall, if uneven, but the entire Steel Legion storyline brought it down a couple notches for me.
Still - looking forward to Season 2.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Apr 15, 2024 6:54:18 GMT
Been busy so I've only seen two episodes by now. Second one was pretty good too. But the power armor stuff was a bit over the top cringe to me. I approve of staying true to the absurd dark humor of Fallout and I hope they keep the story fairly bizarre rather than lean into serious melodrama. But I'm not enjoying the BOS yet tbh. Couldn't care less if I never heard of Maximus again. I never liked them so I'm glad that so far there isn't much to like about them. But yeah they went a bit too silly for me. The West World people simply transplanted the Man In Black into Fallout and I'm here for it. Not sure about this being a spoiler: Apparently I wasn't paying attention because I didn't realize the bad guys are the Enclave. Confuse some a lot, first I thought Institute but the visuals didn't fit. Somehow Enclave never crossed my mind, completely forgot about them apparently.
Enjoying the show, not perfect but very solid and lots of details to nerd about. Filly looked really cool as a sort of Megaton. Not all the locations and fashion looks Fallout to me if we're using FO4 as the main artistic style but it's fine.
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Post by Reznore on Apr 15, 2024 8:52:26 GMT
Episodes 2 & 3 down... Creepy mouth fingers... Glad to see the dog didn't stay dead, but what the hell is in those stim packs???? Is it just another nod to gaming? Which I'm fine with, but didn't think they'd go for a 'this magic injection heals anything' in a live action series.
So the Ghoul isn't totally immortal, then? The meds that were destroyed by the giant axolotl are part of his longevity. Lucy and her "okie dokie" is starting to look a lot like a coping mantra than a happy-go-lucky throwaway comment. About stim packs, it fits the lore. Yes stim packs are a big deal in gaming but SCIENCE! got pretty far in the Fallout universe. Stim packs are just the tip of the iceberg. Ghouls are not immortal just really long lived and quite resistant to damage in general. The meds are a new thing in the TV show, but it's explained later what they do.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Apr 15, 2024 20:06:43 GMT
Episodes 4 & 5 Well...shit. Lucy is finding her way in to the dark places, but she still has hope.
I am becoming more annoyed by the Maximum/Brotherhood story. I get that he was desperate for a friend, but telling the squire that he wasn't really Knight Tittus was so obviously stupid that it wasn't even funny.
Post apocalyptic Beavis and Butthead were amusing, and love the robot. Think the voice was one of the What We Do in the Shadows guys?
But the big thing is either the vault 31 vibe or the conversation between Lucy and Maximum about the timeline at work. Those handful of lines about the "past 200 years" and the "bombs dropped when I was a kid" are doing a LOT of heavy lifting in terms of - what I assume is - the hidden twist in the tale. Reclamation Day - as Lucy called it - has already happened. And it failed. Has it really been only 219 years...?
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Post by skekSil on Apr 16, 2024 18:25:14 GMT
The code in last episode is a day when Fallout 1 was released
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Post by Kappa Neko on Apr 16, 2024 20:43:29 GMT
Episode 4 is the best one yet because NO Maximus! Cannot stand that character, the BOS parody is dragging the whole show down. The ghoul and Lucy are fun and everything in the vault is great too.
I may dislike the BOS in the games but they were never this incompetent and mean as far as I remember. Maybe I just forgot about all the bullying. I remember then having a kind of big family spirit and thought themselves very honorable. On the show they're a complete joke. Everything else is so well done but they dropped the ball with the brotherhood, hard.
So while the dark humor is exactly what I wanted because that's the best part of the games to me. They went overboard with the BOS. They pressed them into the silly framework and it's so jarring. Doesn't work for me at all.
I don't care about slowly redeeming Maximus, he's a complete moron and a cold blooded murderer,the first is redeemable , the latter not so much. I dread the inevitable romance stuff.
Judging by online comments everybody loves the slapstick apparently. Not me, not my friend. Don't care how "relatable" as a gamer it's supposed to be. It's not for me. It's just cringe. OK, the gulper scene was cool. I wish they'd just show a normal BOS operation going south like everything does in the wasteland. Could have been plenty funny without completely ruining that faction.
Show could have been amazing if they'd approached the brotherhood differently. Real shame. But I'm still having a blast and I'd watch 6 seasons of episodic absurdity with any other character than Maximus. Just don't show the BOS anymore if you're going to portray them like that. And I'm saying this as somebody who couldn't care less about the BOS normally. I never wear power armor. Jokes getting old. PLEASE for the love of god, do something else with them!
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Post by AnDromedary on Apr 17, 2024 13:31:06 GMT
Watched it again and loved it. I just love moments like the brother checking out Vault 32 and seeing the mess. It's such a Fallout moment visiting your first super creepy vault and wondering what the hell happened.
There's a couple of retcon like the ghouls needing medication to not turn feral (guess it adds pathos to the Ghoul) and the fate of shady sands and the NCR. I'm expecting to see Mr House in season 2 and no courrier around, that's fine with me. When Lucy's brother and cousin explore vault 32, it already felt a lot like a typical Fallout tutorial level to me. Then they had to crawl under the half open door into the overseer's office and I alsmost saw a "Press C to crouch" prompt on screen. I wonder if that was deliberate or just me interpreting way to much. They do make it easy to do that though. They paid so much attention to detail, that I think everything is an easter egg now. For example, when Lucy examines the head in episode 3, she takes it and says: "So what makes you so ... special?" That little pause before the "special" made me think this might be a nod towards the "What makes you S.P.E.C.I.A.L.?" Sheets for the character creation in the games. Also, since we know from Fallout 3 that the S.P.E.C.I.A.L. system is also part of vault education (at least in some vaults), maybe Lucy also knows it and that's why she had that little pause there. One of my favorite non-Fallout easter egg was the Vault-Tec board room in the last episode. It's basically identical to the one from Dr. Strangelove. Now that i am through the series, I can only reiterate what I said before. THIS is how you do a game adaptation. The last two episodes really kick it up a notch again, too. Brilliant series. Can't wait for season 2 (I am sure they'll make one with all the buzz season 1 has created).
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Post by AnDromedary on Apr 17, 2024 17:17:52 GMT
By the way, after the finale, I am left with two questions: 1. How did Moldaver survive over 200 years? She doesn't appear to be ghoul and she certainly wasn't one of "Bud's buds", so? I mean, not a plot hole or anything. We know that cryogenic tech was used in multiple locations, not just Vault 31 and Vault 4. After all, they also had it in Vault 111 in Fallout 4 and I think also in other places. My question is more if I missed the explanation.
2. Did anyone spot Steph in the pre-war footage? I think we see everyone else form Vault 31 (Hank and Betty definitely show up), so I was wondering if (not knowing the twist) I missed her. I am sure they put her in somewhere. Also, I wonder what the plan was for Steph. She's from 31, so she must have been un-frozen but she is not in any kind of leadership position in 33 (until she is made overseer of 32 but Bud couldn't know that the raid would happen there). Maybe she was meant to already be planted to be the next generation after Betty and Hank?
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Post by Reznore on Apr 17, 2024 20:34:58 GMT
No idea about Moldaver. But she was a great scientist, and her workplace was bought by Vault Tec so she probably had access to cryo pods.
No idea about Steph either.
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Post by q5tyhj on Apr 17, 2024 23:37:58 GMT
I'm only halfway through episode 1 right now and the set design is impeccable. Really impressive. And since it's not a retelling of any of the games I can't complain about what they got wrong. It looks SO good it's unreal. Like right out of FO4, by far my favorite visually. I hope it stays that good. Can't comment on the storytelling much yet but the vault part was great. Yeah the only Mass Effect TV show I'd ever want to see is a new story in that universe. Don't EVER touch the trilogy. Shepard cannot be adapted. Would be a disaster. I would actually watch an animated version with Shepard + friends... provided they use FemShep and get all the original voice actors
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Apr 18, 2024 20:32:25 GMT
Finished it last night. Really enjoyable. Not as good a TV show as The Last of Us, but a better "TV show based on a video game", if that makes sense. It had high quality across the board and the number of little easter eggs for gamers (whether they've played Fallout or not) was impressive and done so seamlessly non-gamers likely didn't realise they were there. With the one exception of the stim packs. My wife commented on them and I explained how video game healing works She thought for a moment, then said "OK" and went back to watching. Gutted that the Brotherhood now have access to/control over cold fusion that powers the wasted city below. Especially given how bungling they appear to be at the one thing they're supposed to be formidable at, unless Knight Tittus was an aberration, and the rest of the Knights are actually competent badasses.
So Season 2 will see Lucy helping the Ghoul find his family? He clearly fell from favour with Vault-Tec before the bombs actually dropped and didn't "lose" his daughter in the process, meaning, his wife didn't force them to be separated, so maybe he convinced her that was they were doing was wrong? On the other hand - he clearly expects them to be alive, so maybe they still had assurances of a cryo-pod each.
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Post by GhostofFuckIt on Apr 19, 2024 6:30:43 GMT
Season 1 unless Knight Tittus was an aberration, and the rest of the Knights are actually competent badasses. Hoping that was just them trying to hit us with a twist rather than anything for telling. I liked when a few of the expectations they set up were turned on their heads. The knight thing was a bit "ha-ha-funny, okay moving on" but two others spring to mind that I loved. Chris Parnell's (Jerry from Rick and Morty and Cyril from Archer) cyclops-vaulter and basically how pacifist all of V4 was. When he cuts Lucy's binds I was like, okay lol that was a bit funny but really "EXILE!" is still a death sentence in their eyes, but then they double (or triple by that point) down on how nice these people are and give them rations to get somewhere else. The cult thing, whatever, but that whole notion that they really weren't bad people at the end, that was done well. Maximus' suckage when he's in the suit. The guy honestly is just f'n terrible at using it. And he should be. I liked that angle. In the moment I was expecting him to rip through everything in his path. Oh, speaking of Maximus, his friend there who wound up planting the knife in their own boot themselves, firstly. 'Nother good twist, didn't expect that. But what threw me for a loop was their voice. I'm usually pretty good at placing voices with actors despite make-up but I had to look em up. Sure enough it's the damane-trainer bitch from WoTS2. Very unique tilt to their voice. *** Back when Fallout first came out, my buddy was sunk into it but it never really hooked me as it did him. Played the first one around when it came out so I literally remember next to nothing about it. That said over the years I see tidbits here and there, but it was fun going into another videogame adaptation where I didn't really know what was coming. I thought they did it well. I'd agree not as well as Last of Us but that itself is a bit of a unicorn. Her talking about and having sex on the fly seemed like more than just, er, 'selling more tickets.' It seemed to be doing three things at once. Sexualized it a bit for ratings firstly. Secondly might've been poking fun at the gamers who basically play like that, but thirdly it was demonstrating cultural differences very quickly, but in a funny way. Differences that may have accrued quicker than one would expect. Tribal almost. When she asks, blatantly, about her newfound husbands sperm count, and when she baldfaced tells her cousin they can't fuck around anymore, differentiated them from us. (Us being the audience with our own cultural biases.) The fact that it was about sex was just clever, works on a lot of levels from a technical perspective. Her cousin certainly wasn't what I expected. Guy is a giant punching bag and it makes for a surprisingly compelling character. His newfound one-eyed lover seems TERRIFYING. Saw another comment that made a bit of sense given it's Fallout. At the end when Lucy's brother, can't remember his name offhand, gets locked into V31. He's not locked in there without anything to eat, in fact he's locked in there with a large amount of freshly frozen meat. Wonder what the little brainbot would think of that... On that note, I liked the brother/punching bag duo. Hope to see more of that. Weird team but it worked. Ghoul, well acted. Right cunt. Lucy herself, I was somewhat prepared to dislike her but I did enjoy her character. "Okey dokey!" At the very end when the ghoul was at the table, which turned out to be Lucy's mom. Man that threw for me for a hot sec when I first saw her. I knew it was obviously someone/thing important, but I happily got it a few seconds later and kinda went, "oh shit, that's her mom." I'm still on the fence with Maximus. He's come across as bumbling idiot a bit too much to be getting thrown such a big bone by the end. Felt shoehorned into it a bit. I get the more nuanced cerebral take on him is that he's continually being rewarded for being a bad human, but again. He's also flailing around a lot. Dunno about it. His squire, when he showed up I wasn't enthused by the idea of seeing Maximus screw the guy around a bunch as the next part of the story, and he did but I lived with it, but I was pleasantly surprised that the squire developed his own role, and now I'm curious to see where he goes too. (With the whole enghoulening thing and whatnot.) Overall good stuff, great in some parts. Couple weird direction takes but overall really fun show. *** So Season 2 will see Lucy helping the Ghoul find his family? He clearly fell from favour with Vault-Tec before the bombs actually dropped and didn't "lose" his daughter in the process, meaning, his wife didn't force them to be separated, so maybe he convinced her that was they were doing was wrong? On the other hand - he clearly expects them to be alive, so maybe they still had assurances of a cryo-pod each. It's kinda odd. IIRC, the last we see of the daughter is him and her riding on a hill basically towards three nuclear explosions, at the end of the prologue. My conclusion is that they must've survived by ducking into one of the family bomb-shelters from the other nearby houses. Like the one the guy punches the other guy at, at the beginning. Then after that, they meet up with "mom" and at some point she ditches him with the daughter... ...I guess???
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Apr 19, 2024 11:41:47 GMT
Season 1 unless Knight Tittus was an aberration, and the rest of the Knights are actually competent badasses. Chris Parnell's (Jerry from Rick and Morty and Cyril from Archer) cyclops-vaulter and basically how pacifist all of V4 was. When he cuts Lucy's binds I was like, okay lol that was a bit funny but really "EXILE!" is still a death sentence in their eyes, but then they double (or triple by that point) down on how nice these people are and give them rations to get somewhere else. The cult thing, whatever, but that whole notion that they really weren't bad people at the end, that was done well. I loved that Lucy's response was "these people are so weird", while ignoring her own "cousin stuff" upbringing. In other news - Fallout 4 was NZD$8.70 on Steam. I have purchased my first Bethesda game. I am not proud of myself
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Post by Kappa Neko on Apr 19, 2024 11:42:55 GMT
Finished it last night. Really enjoyable. Not as good a TV show as The Last of Us, but a better "TV show based on a video game", if that makes sense. TLOU was pretty good but way overrrated. Kinda like the game tbh. I gave the TV adaptation a 8/10, so pretty good but the game was better. Kinda hated what they did to Joel's character, making him more likeable and soft, downplaying his ruthlessness. Undecided yet on Fallout, still have 2 episodes to go but I like it better. Mostly because A) I love everything Fallout and it's not a retelling so there are no characters to fuck up, only lore to fuck up. I have way less to nitpick about Fallout as a result. Episodes 5+6: Just when I thought they were going to make Maximus less of a complete irrational murder hobo and bond with his former bully, he tries to kill his new squire five minutes later, lol. This guy is so dense it's unreal. He is so intensely unlikeable to me I don't know if I should be impressed with the writing or not. The combination of stupid and casual evil is quite the package... I will settle on, uh, a unique character.
Apparently most people are warming up to him because of his almost mentally retarded reaction to everything that comes off as adorable in its naivety. But shit, this is the same guy who wants to kill everyone who gets in his way. I'm sorry, but he's a disgusting person to me. His background is no excuse for his narcissistic evil selfishness. Even with a possible twist coming that he hates the Brotherhood because they nuked Shady Sands, I can't imagine he'd be any less of a murder hobo with other people.
At least the ghoul is the classic jaded bitter asshole who lost everything and now doesn't give a shit about anything anymore. He showed some humanity though with his ghoul friend the way he mercy killed him. He used to be a good guy and he'll probably be again. Maximus is just the type of chaotic callous evilness that is scary AF in real life. I guess in that sense he's the most realistic character. Lots of people like Maximus in real life. They usually end up in prison for murder and then get interviewed for "I am a Killer" on Netflix feeling sorry for themselves.
I REALLY wish Maximus was just a dumbass. That I could get behind. It really rubs me the wrong way how the show is trying to pass him off as likable despite his consistently awful actions. Flawed characters are great but the tone with him is all over the place. I applauded when Maximus got stuck in his power armor because that's what you get for being such a shitty person. He deserved to die like this. Would have been a fitting end to his character. But then episode 6 tried really hard to endear him to people with his clumsy joy in the vault. Doesn't work for me. Because there is no character development with this guy. He doesn't really feel bad about what he does. He had one moment with Thaddeus and then he went right back to murder hobo. The only reason Lucy isn't dead yet in his company is because she's pretty. Maximus continues to be a piece of shit to me. Stupidity is no excuse for evil.
I guess I'm alone in this opinion. Maybe the writers are doing something right making me this disgusted with him. But I have a feeling this is not how I should feel. And I've read hundreds of reddit comments on every episode and nobody actually hates him anymore as a person.
The BOS as a whole continues to be bizarre. Now their squires don't even know how their penis works. All riiiight. Was that kinda funny? Yes. But WTF is that?! There are kids in the BOS, women. Female knights. Where are those??? What kind of church camp is this place he grew up in?? I'm honestly surprised the BOS on the show are this laughable. Always felt like Bethesda loved the BOS as the cool faction. Because power armor is cool.
Well, at least they're not just shitting all over the NCR then... If the BOS nuked them that's at least the kind of shitty thing I expect them to do.
Apart from my issues with Maximus, everything is awesome. I love how much they're investing into how fucked up the vaults are, always the best part of any Fallout game, finding out what sick shit went down in each of them. Cooper's wife knows. Of course she does. That perfect couple vibe in episode 1 was suspicious from the getgo. You work for Vault Tech you're working for the bad guys.
It's weird though that there is zero security in vault 4. Lucy could just walk into the room with all the fucked up experiments?? Surely they told her not to go there on purpose, right? If not then they're even dumber than the Brotherhood.
Quite the cliffhanger there with Moldaver! Huh. Seems like the theory that she's a descendant of Cooper's daughter is false then. So I guess she got frozen like the Sole Survivor in FO4? I'm secretly hoping for synth. But probably something they'll keep for a second season.
Really enjoying all the Vault Tech stuff, getting more prewar scenes is nice. The dude with one eye and the one with a second nose were a bit too silly for my taste, though. Otherwise I loved the vibe in that vault. Can't wait to watch the final two episodes this weekend. Haven't quite figured out yet exactly what's up with vaults 31-33.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Apr 19, 2024 11:46:44 GMT
Haven't quite figured out yet exactly what's up with vaults 31-33. Be very interested to read your thoughts when you do find out. I wasn't even close
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Post by Kappa Neko on Apr 19, 2024 11:50:05 GMT
In other news - Fallout 4 was NZD$8.70 on Steam. I have purchased my first Bethesda game. I am not proud of myself Nice! FO4 is my favorite Fallout because of the base building. In terms of roleplaying NV is by far the best. I liked FO3 least in 2018. Did not age too well. So the order in which I played was FO4>NV>FO3. Not sure I recommend it this way. I hope you have fun!
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 21, 2024 17:24:22 GMT
Finally was able to start watching the show. Got so hooked ended up binging the whole season. I love this show. Definitely captured the Fallout feel, and can’t wait for Season 2.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Apr 21, 2024 20:07:26 GMT
Maximus' Charisma is at least 4 points too high...
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Post by skekSil on Apr 21, 2024 21:32:48 GMT
I'd be more interested to se their traits and perks. The Ghoul definitely has Bloody Mess and Cannibal.
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Post by SwobyJ on Apr 21, 2024 22:11:23 GMT
Reduce most stats for Maximus, boost Luck.
His whole thing has been failing upwards.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Apr 22, 2024 7:56:10 GMT
Started watching it again! Whaaat!? I never do this, now I do on Fallout. Gonna haul a lot of stuff today in FO76, because the free Fallout 1st ends in 2 days (I think). Already did yesterday. Excavator Power Armor for the haul!
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Post by Kappa Neko on Apr 22, 2024 8:11:14 GMT
Episode 7+8: OK, did not see the twist coming that vault 4 is actually full of nice people. So they were just being complete morons mentioning the closed off science lab, lol. Nice subversion of expectations. Also ties in wonderfully with the whole reveal in the final episode that all the self righteous Vault Tec overseers are the monsters while the surface dwellers actually tried to rebuild and have good communities.
REALLY disgusted with how Maximus' evil deeds get handwaved by Lucy as if defending herself is the same thing as murdering somebody in cold blood. WTF?! OK then... Sorry I keep ranting about him but that character is a narrative train wreck to me.
On the bright side, Thaddeus is comedy gold, I hope he sticks around for S2. The whole snake oil salesman scene was hilarious. I first thought he was just tripping on whatever drug he swallowed there and his foot was actually still busted. But then it actually healed and now he's a ghoul? LMAO, I love it! "Why am I not dead?" LOL I think he's my favorite character now.
The ghoul may not be as redeemable as I assumed though after setting up that teenage boy. That was cold AF, super evil. No excuse there. The brother was one thing, everyone tried to kill Coop in Filly. But this time? Straight up evil. I do expect the ghoul to soften up a bit though eventually and help the good guys. Logically a classical arc would be good guy>bad guy>goog guy. But who knows.
Guess I wasn't too far off that all the Vault Tec people are in vault 31. I expected a base of operations however. Not a robo brain and only frozen people. But close enough, I guess. But how is there NO security anywhere in these vaults??? That was such lazy writing, Norm just walking in there? Granted,robo brain Bud isn't fully there anymore but still.
Lucy's dad turning out to be the bad guy was not surprising. I was surprised however that Vault Tec nuked Shady Sands. I was buying into the fan theory that the BOS nuked it and that Maximus actually hates the Brotherhood and that's why he's been such a murder hobo. Nope, turns out his character is just a mentally challenged maniac. (Btw, those player character stats are bullshit, he is supposed to be as "smart" as the ghoul??? Come on, man. Guy's a complete moron and he sure ain't charismatic either. What a bullshit chart.)
I did like the irony that Maximus is finally made a proper knight when he doesn't want to be one anymore. The way he's getting rewarded for being a shitty person is kinda funny.
Coop's wife being the one to actually suggest dropping the bombs themselves was great. So much for just trying to do the best thing for her family in a shitty situation. Which would have been awful enough but somewhat understandable. Woman's completely evil. Loved that. Poor Coop...
If he's still looking for his family that means his daughter didn't die? Hmmm... Must have taken her to a vault and asked to let her in while he stayed outside getting ghoulified. Also if the bombs dropped at the party then I don't think it was Vault Tec, no way would Barb have put her daughter in danger like that, psychopath or not. So the Chinese probably dropped the nukes before Vault Tec could do it. Still a great twist, not an unexpected one. I think the games hinted at that anyway. Vault Tec had always been evil.
Great lore addition however to finally get an explanation for the vault experiments. So the Enclave just continued this? Wasn't it said that the vaults were supposed to simulate confined space in a spaceship for when humanity finally leaves this shit hole? In any case, I really enjoyed the heavy focus on Vault Tec and their comically evil schemes.
I find it extra funny and ironic because this is basically the conspiracy theory about our actual world. All the rich people trying to kill off all the poor and undesirable people and start over fresh with humanity's "best". The Great Reset evil master plan.
The final scene was chef's kiss. We're going to New Vegas next season, baby!!!! THRILLED!!!
Now I'm confused about all the hate from New Vegas fans. Shady Sands definitely wasn't nuked to just get rid of the NCR and pretend the faction never existed to appease Todd Howard's ego or whatever. The show is a big love letter to ALL Fallout games. The NRC was NOT doing well in the game. So this isn't even a retcon really. And obviously the NCR are the good guys here and the BOS the assholes who are going to war with them again because they're lunatics. REALLY bad news the cold fusion chip is in their hands now.
Very sad Moldaver died. But I guess we'll see a lot of her in flashbacks. We have no idea how she's still alive. Probably had her own cryopod or something. Or cloned herself?
I'm surprised the Enclave wasn't a real player this season. The show completely dropped them. Scientist runs away and that's it for that faction. Kinda weird. I guess we'll get more of the Enclave next season. Overall I really enjoyed the show. They nailed the visuals and the absurd humor. Almost too silly at times. Everything Vault Tec and the vaults was awesome. The ghoul's storyline was great too and very well acted. The narrative was a bit uneven. Brotherhood was awful, everything else really good though. Looking forward to more seasons!
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 25, 2024 0:15:49 GMT
Anyone else disturbed by the implication that there isn't any way forward in the setting? Looks like there's no way to make progress; anything you preserve or build is just going to get blown up sooner or later.
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