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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Nov 3, 2022 9:12:02 GMT
Fenris is also a quantum character and so should not be returning except in an optional side-quest or cameo role based on the world state imported. Whilst he was brought back in the comic series, that left him down south with Vaea and it was working along the lines of one particular world state So what? The comic series ends in 9:45 and DAD is likely around 9:52. I really don´t see the problem. Many things can change in 7 years. No Big Deal. Yes he is a quantum character but there is no reason to not bring him back. The only reason would have been if comics have killed him. But´s not the case and therefore it´s really not hard to find an explanation why Fenris is back in Tevinter.
Again a lot can happen in 7 years.
And Fenris should return like Dorian he is too much Tevinter to be not included. Also many fans won´t follow other media than games so it would be very strange not used Fenris because of some comic series.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 3, 2022 10:11:19 GMT
And Fenris should return like Dorian he is too much Tevinter to be not included. Also many fans won´t follow other media than games so it would be very strange not used Fenris because of some comic series. All the more reason not to include Fenris since many players will have killed him so would find it odd should he suddenly appear again. My argument with the comic series is that this was ignored in bringing him back, so the comic series clearly only reflects one world state but there are others. Bringing him back in a major role would present exactly the same problems as Leliana did but they could have an optional side-quest including him if they wished, with an alternative for those who killed him, just like we had with Nathaniel. Also, whilst the comic series had him operating up in Tevinter, actually the whole point I thought was that he wanted to be as far away as possible from the place. You can disrupt the slave trade from outside Tevinter as well as within it. Dorian is a completely different scenario. He can never be dead at the end of Inquisition. Even if you didn't recruit him or he left early, he becomes a Magister, so giving a good reason for him to return there. He always returns to Tevinter even if in a romance with a character not welcome in Tevinter, so there is no possible variation in outcome. In fact, from that PoV, it is obvious the writers wanted him back in Tevinter and so it would be extremely odd if he didn't have a major part to play in the plot going forward.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 3, 2022 10:23:36 GMT
If she was involved, I’d see it more as her helping the heroes with her knowledge of ancient elves and the Eluvians. It has occurred to me that even more than that she could be useful for her knowledge of how to cleanse the Blight. It suddenly struck me how significant it was what she did with the eluvian. It was contaminated with the Blight and yet Merrill succeeded in cleansing it, with the knowledge she gained from the ancient demon. That is huge. The Hero was actually off in the west looking for a cure when they would have done better to consult Merrill. Now it is possible the writers will quietly overlook this plot point, but it is something they could pursue if they wished. If we delve into non game material then there was an artefact in the Calling that was able to cure Fiona of the Blight. Fiona was just a passive beneficiary of this effect but the item itself came from the Architect. Did he create it or find it? I don't think it was intended to be its primary purpose but nevertheless it had a side-effect of curing Fiona. Anyway, since I've long held the view that cleansing the world of the Blight has something to do with Solas plan, and he thinks the world is doomed anyway if he does not take action, if we found an alternative then it would remove that need for action on his part. In some ways it would be good for Merrill to be vindicated in that way; that her former obsession with the eluvian actually proved the key to saving the world from the Blight.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Nov 3, 2022 10:24:53 GMT
All the more reason not to include Fenris since many players will have killed him so would find it odd should he suddenly appear again. I highly doubt that so many players have killed Fenris. And if so what´s the big deal he won´t show up for those people. I never suggested over the years to any time that Fenris should have a major role and would be rectoned like Leliana. Fenris will never be a major character or even a companion for the series ever again!!! Maybe Fenris gets a cameo side quest like Nathaniel or Zevran in DA 2 or perhaps a bit bigger with a lame replacement character but that´s it.Again this was likely 7 years ago. People change their plans over this period of time.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Nov 10, 2022 13:17:10 GMT
Sorry but no we don´t need more Merrill drama. Also Merrill has friends in Kirkwall who won´t let her join Solas. It´s not just Varric but also Isabela and Aveline who won´t allow this. Of course Bioware could still write Merrill in Dreadwolf but why is this needed from a writing view of things? Her story is done and the only reason why she and her clan has even returned in DA 2 was that Bioware hadn´t done much with them in DAO. Sorry but this was also the time where some of community were super pissed off that they recton the much smaller optional death of Leliana. Undone a major character decision which unlike Leliana every player has to chose would be a terrible idea like that Anders wasn´t possessed by the real Justice. Yeah. Merrill would never support Solas. This is the woman who tells multiple stories about how not to trust the Dread Wolf. And even if he’s lying, she knows the truth thanks to Varric. If she was involved, I’d see it more as her helping the heroes with her knowledge of ancient elves and the Eluvians.
I would say Merrill could be a spy for the Inquisition in Solas' faction but I don't think Merrill as a spy would work unless a lot of time has passed and she's not as naive as she was in DA2 and even then I don't know if Merrill would be the right character, maybe Velana, the Dalish elf Grey Warden (or maybe she's not a Warden because if you recruit last she never goes through the joining) from DAO: Awakening MIGHT be a better character, and she could also be tempted by Solas and make her more of a character who might turn to Solas' side or maybe she doesn't.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 10, 2022 13:48:00 GMT
I would say Merrill could be a spy for the Inquisition in Solas' faction but I don't think Merrill as a spy would work unless a lot of time has passed and she's not as naive as she was in DA2I don't think Merrill would work as a spy/agent of the Inquisition as you have to have a certain character and abilities to make an effective spy. Even if she had become less naive over the years, she still strikes me as being too open and honest a character to pull it off. However, I could see her following the clans to Arlathan Forest and then discovering she has fallen in with the Dread Wolf inadvertently. She would then have to simply wait it out until the possibility came to escape. How much information she would have gained might not be that great, though, as I suspect Solas has been rather sparing in the information that he has divulged to modern recruits. As you say, Velanna could be a possibility but I think it more likely she could be subverted to his cause, particularly if it turns out he is trying to do something to counter the spread of the Blight. I also think Velanna might be willing to buy into his scheme for restoration of elven glory, even at the expense of other races, although I still doubt how much of the entirety of his plan he will have divulged to the majority of his followers.
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Post by Iddy on Nov 10, 2022 14:33:01 GMT
Yeah. Merrill would never support Solas. This is the woman who tells multiple stories about how not to trust the Dread Wolf. And even if he’s lying, she knows the truth thanks to Varric. If she was involved, I’d see it more as her helping the heroes with her knowledge of ancient elves and the Eluvians.
I would say Merrill could be a spy for the Inquisition in Solas' faction but I don't think Merrill as a spy would work unless a lot of time has passed and she's not as naive as she was in DA2 and even then I don't know if Merrill would be the right character, maybe Velana, the Dalish elf Grey Warden (or maybe she's not a Warden because if you recruit last she never goes through the joining) from DAO: Awakening MIGHT be a better character, and she could also be tempted by Solas and make her more of a character who might turn to Solas' side or maybe she doesn't.
I'd sooner expect her to be a spy for Solas in the Inquisition. Not many people remember that she supported Janeka's plan to release Corypheus back in the Legacy DLC, because she believed it would be safe enough.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Nov 10, 2022 17:34:16 GMT
Speaking of Spies: Who is Sketch really and for who he is working for? It is possible that Sketch is not his true name, and implied in a letter from Leliana asking for his aid that Sketch may have formerly been a slave, as well as originally placed in Orlais by a mysterious effort to seed its borders with hidden agents dragonage.fandom.com/wiki/Sketch
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Post by necrowaif on Nov 10, 2022 17:36:54 GMT
Speaking of Spies: Who is Sketch really and for who he is working for? It is possible that Sketch is not his true name, and implied in a letter from Leliana asking for his aid that Sketch may have formerly been a slave, as well as originally placed in Orlais by a mysterious effort to seed its borders with hidden agents dragonage.fandom.com/wiki/SketchBased on a gut feeling, he's an agent for The Executors, ie. Those Across the Sea.
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Post by Solas on Nov 10, 2022 23:53:18 GMT
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Nov 11, 2022 9:11:30 GMT
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Nov 12, 2022 17:18:10 GMT
I am still very hyped that Fairbanks aka Evariste Lemarque could be a major character. It doesn´t matter for me if he is only one in Absolution and won´t show up in DAD i just love the surprise what this character could bring to this franchise. Let´s face it a week ago no one have ever consider (or maybe even remember) Fairbanks to be one of the characters who can have a much bigger role in the future.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 12, 2022 19:27:23 GMT
Let´s face it a week ago no one have ever consider (or maybe even remember) Fairbanks to be one of the characters who can have a much bigger role in the future. It's weird that I never thought of him and yet now his name is associated with the Netflix series, he is someone that I am looking forward to seeing again. I suppose the reason I didn't consider him before is that I think I left him running the Emerald Graves and had a head cannon where he would work well with the Dalish clans looking to settle there and the refugees that had fled there. However, with the situation appearing to be reverting to the status quo at the end of Trespasser, he really did need to get out of Orlesian politics considering he never really wanted any part of his noble heritage. I only dropped him in it because of the good I thought he could do for the people of the Dales and even then I chose the Cullen option at the War Table. I have to agree with Josephine, though, that he did have a rather romantic backstory, if somewhat tragic as well.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Nov 12, 2022 20:24:26 GMT
I suppose the reason I didn't consider him before is that I think I left him running the Emerald Graves and had a head cannon where he would work well with the Dalish clans looking to settle there and the refugees that had fled there. I guess my reason is the same. I never wasted a thought about Fairbanks. As an orlesian character i couldn´t possible imagine him to leave Orlais and go for an adventure in Tevinter. Maybe i should also rethink my thoughts about the Avvar characters in the Hakkon DLC. Like Fairbanks i have imagined that they all stay there. Perhaps one or two could leave but i never connected them with Tevinter. Edit: So why bring Runa or Sigrid Gulsdotten back and flesh them out?
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Post by Storm on Nov 12, 2022 20:47:29 GMT
Xenon the Antiquarian. Would love to have the ability to actually speak with him, give him an investigate promt that updates troughout the game with weird lore curiosities. Maybe have him relocate to Minrathous because of a plot regarding the Venatori he once fed to the monster living under his floorboards. Would also be fun if we were given a quest to find a cure for his aging. Would be fun if we were sent on a treasure hunt thematically in spirit of the Black Emporium, maybe have us visit a goofy mystical creature akin to the Nug King. In essence a way for the writers to have some extra fun.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 13, 2022 8:53:07 GMT
As an orlesian character i couldn´t possible imagine him to leave Orlais and go for an adventure in Tevinter. It wasn't so much that I wouldn't expect to see him there but that he was fully engaged in the south in my world state. I don't think his loyalties were to Orlais so much as the common people, so it isn't such a stretch to imagine that he might branch out further afield if he thought his skills were needed there. As I've already said elsewhere, I can see the situation in Orlais changing enough back to the status quo that existed prior to the civil war after Trespasser that he no longer felt he had a place there.
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Post by fairdragon on Nov 15, 2022 11:10:35 GMT
Now they using Fairbank a quest and a character i thought i would never see again or matter. I am totaly excited what else they pull out of the hat. I have to look up the keep. Maybe i find something on the quest which were saved.
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