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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Jul 11, 2023 15:15:24 GMT
I'll go in as usual; not knowing what where when how etc. basically not spoiling (as much as that is possible being here too) I'd take story first anyway and by not knowing keep the game longer interesting for me. I think on my first run I did not romance anyone.
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Post by Beerfish on Jul 11, 2023 16:08:09 GMT
I've already bought some roses, some copper merigolds and have written poems for Lace Harding.
I am thinking a dowry of 5 sheaves of wheat, 3 goats and 20 silver pieces oughta to do it.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 11, 2023 19:07:01 GMT
Incidentally, in my current playthrough I'm playing as a female Cousland and Morrigan was suddenly all flirty with me. Thus far Alistair, Leliana and Zevran have made passes at my character. Now Morrigan too? Did she actually ask you to share her bedroll? Otherwise, I think she was just being friendly. I haven't played female Cousland but I played both a female mage, who romanced Alistair, and a female city elf, who romanced Zevran, and both of them got on really well with Morrigan, particularly the latter. It is a long time ago but I think I may even have said she was like a sister to me. Otherwise, perhaps you hit a bug. I managed to avoid either Leliana or Zevran making pass at my female mage and Zevran ended up as a BFF without any sexy shenanigans. Meanwhile my city elf girl was pretty anti-human but couldn't bring herself to be mean to Alistair as she felt it would be like kicking a puppy, so she got the rose without any real encouragement but just being generally pleasant to him and accepted it without intending it to mean anything (I kept clear of the romance dialogue options). It was Zevran who suggested that Alistair still had the wrong idea about me and I should let him down gently, which I did. Somehow I actually gained approval points in doing this, so I must have done something right. I still prefer the way the romances were handled in DAO. Also, the fact that you could chat to companions outside camp. After Alistair got knocked out in a fight, I was even able to give him a quick reassuring kiss, which felt more natural to me than getting a flag telling me to chat to my lover or them turning up out of the blue, but no other option in between (in DA2) or stomping around the castle to suggest a bit of alone time followed by a quick cut scene (in DAI).
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 11, 2023 19:22:06 GMT
The trick is to get rejected in real life a lot so that if fictional characters turn you down, you can easily shrug it off. Like shrapnel. I can take the initial rejection but Solas breaking up for no good reason, promising he would explain once Cory was defeated and then going off without a word, was a bit too close to real life for me. I really wasn't in the mood for the celebration party after that. Still, I hope I have learned my lesson: don't go for the broody male elf if you don't want a relationship where you spend two years wondering what you did wrong. At least Fenris ended reasonably well (until the writers put the boot in and separated us - to think originally we were going to get a wedding), but Solas .......! Which reminds me, this time round, if they are going to have any weddings, please can male PCs get one too. I suppose you can argue that a male Cousland does get married, although you never see it on screen, but I feel Hawke (male or female) and my male Inquisitors were very hard done by. Still smarting over that stupid joke by Varric in Trespasser that I thought was in very poor taste.
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Post by eaglepursuit on Jul 12, 2023 4:06:13 GMT
They likely will not reveal who is romanceable via marketing, but if it's anything like last time, the information will filter out a little at a time over the course of the marketing campaign through a variety of sources. I think we will probably have a pretty solid idea of who is or isn't shortly before launch.
But we have a long way to go and much to learn before we get to that point.
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Post by RelevantRevenant on Jul 12, 2023 8:05:01 GMT
Incidentally, in my current playthrough I'm playing as a female Cousland and Morrigan was suddenly all flirty with me. Thus far Alistair, Leliana and Zevran have made passes at my character. Now Morrigan too? Did she actually ask you to share her bedroll? Otherwise, I think she was just being friendly. I haven't played female Cousland but I played both a female mage, who romanced Alistair, and a female city elf, who romanced Zevran, and both of them got on really well with Morrigan, particularly the latter. It is a long time ago but I think I may even have said she was like a sister to me. Otherwise, perhaps you hit a bug. I managed to avoid either Leliana or Zevran making pass at my female mage and Zevran ended up as a BFF without any sexy shenanigans. Meanwhile my city elf girl was pretty anti-human but couldn't bring herself to be mean to Alistair as she felt it would be like kicking a puppy, so she got the rose without any real encouragement but just being generally pleasant to him and accepted it without intending it to mean anything (I kept clear of the romance dialogue options). It was Zevran who suggested that Alistair still had the wrong idea about me and I should let him down gently, which I did. Somehow I actually gained approval points in doing this, so I must have done something right. I still prefer the way the romances were handled in DAO. Also, the fact that you could chat to companions outside camp. After Alistair got knocked out in a fight, I was even able to give him a quick reassuring kiss, which felt more natural to me than getting a flag telling me to chat to my lover or them turning up out of the blue, but no other option in between (in DA2) or stomping around the castle to suggest a bit of alone time followed by a quick cut scene (in DAI). Re: Morrigan: It didn't happen during conversations, just when I clicked on her during gameplay and she'd go: "I am here." in a sultry voice or "Yes, my love?" It has to be a glitch because her approval is high enough for romance. I agree about the DAO romances, I just wish they would have a clear route of romance and friendship so you don't accidentally end up in a romance with someone. I can understand they want to make the characters react differently to each other when you try to iniate romance, but I would like there to be at least some clarity. Case in point: Blackwall. Flirt once and you're stuck. It's obviously not permanent and you can break it off later, but if you don't know that can happen, it can be confusing.
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Post by fairdragon on Jul 12, 2023 10:04:29 GMT
They likely will not reveal who is romanceable via marketing, but if it's anything like last time, the information will filter out a little at a time over the course of the marketing campaign through a variety of sources. I think we will probably have a pretty solid idea of who is or isn't shortly before launch. But we have a long way to go and much to learn before we get to that point. I know.
But we have so little information and i want to plan my keep saves. So i ask here for more information.
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Post by Gwydden on Jul 12, 2023 10:30:55 GMT
They likely will not reveal who is romanceable via marketing, but if it's anything like last time, the information will filter out a little at a time over the course of the marketing campaign through a variety of sources. I think we will probably have a pretty solid idea of who is or isn't shortly before launch. But we have a long way to go and much to learn before we get to that point. For Inquisition, I recall the devs actually put up a post in the official forum revealing all the romances ahead of release. Of course, the official forums are technically gone now, and their approach to marketing can change. There was a lot of drama at the time, mostly women despairing that Cassandra was an m/f only option or straight men complaining all the m/f love interests were ugly so Bioware was clearly going out of their way to spite them. Fun times.
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Post by Gileadan on Jul 12, 2023 12:22:11 GMT
Not that BioWare would ever get away with it, but I'd be completely fine with a romance free game. Not every recipe needs sugar and not every story needs romance. It might also prevent a few nervous breakdowns when certain characters turn out to be uninterested in certain genders.
But either way, before the romance there needs to be a character interesting enough to be romanced anyway.
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Post by Gwydden on Jul 12, 2023 12:56:41 GMT
Not that BioWare would ever get away with it, but I'd be completely fine with a romance free game. Not every recipe needs sugar and not every story needs romance. It might also prevent a few nervous breakdowns when certain characters turn out to be uninterested in certain genders. I've enjoyed RPGs without romances and skipped the feature in some that had them, but generally I appreciate having a love story within my adventure story if there's room for it. So I'd rather have romances than not, everything else being equal. Plus I'm sucker for fandom drama, so the "nervous breakdowns" are also a selling point
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Post by mrobnoxiousuk on Jul 12, 2023 14:03:53 GMT
I think they should keep it a secret and leave some mystery, they show people far too much in my opinion, such as it is.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Jul 12, 2023 19:37:52 GMT
Speaking of surprises and companions. Should Bioware ever made a trailer like the one for Mhari?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 12, 2023 21:47:41 GMT
Speaking of surprises and companions. Should Bioware ever made a trailer like the one for Mhari?
Still my favorite Awakening companion. Far better than the six actual ones. May or may not have made an Inquisitor based off her.
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Post by githcheater on Jul 12, 2023 21:55:23 GMT
Speaking of surprises and companions. Should Bioware ever made a trailer like the one for Mhari?
YES DEFINITELY!!! They should break our hearts again and stealthily make a similar video for DAD.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Jul 12, 2023 22:04:09 GMT
YES DEFINITELY!!! They should break our hearts again and stealthily make a similar video for DAD. Well to be fair i doubt that we will temp or even secret companions in DAD. I mean DAI and MEA didn´t have ones so why should DAD pull another Mhari?
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 13, 2023 8:31:42 GMT
Well to be fair i doubt that we will temp or even secret companions in DAD. I mean DAI and MEA didn´t have ones so why should DAD pull another Mhari? Also, to be fair to the writers, what they did with Mhari did fit with the Grey Wardens narrative. I had quite liked Daveth but he died in the Joining. That was early in DAO, so perhaps they felt it was time they remphasised the jeopardy of the ritual. Putting the spotlight on a likable character and then killing her off was just the sort of reminder to make us anxious every time someone took the Joining, adding to the immersion in the world of the Grey Wardens. Nor was this transient nature of companions confined to the Wardens. Our origin stories could feature companions that ended up dead/lost or didn't continue on the journey with us for one reason or another. Now, just because they didn't do this with DAI or MEA, doesn't mean they won't bring back the concept in a different context in DA:D. Perhaps there will be an early temporary companion who is a friend/acquaintance of our PC, who is killed or left behind, giving us a personal grudge against the individual responsible (Solas perhaps?). Alternatively, may be they betray us, which would be an interesting plot twist that might give us even less reason to trust our companions in the future than might otherwise have been the case. However, Mhari was never going to be a romance, whatever people might have liked to imagine in their heads, so I don't think we need worry about them doing that when it comes to hinting at possible romance partners.
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Post by Walter Black on Jul 25, 2023 14:32:08 GMT
Speaking of surprises and companions. Should Bioware ever made a trailer like the one for Mhari?
Still my favorite Awakening companion. Far better than the six actual ones. May or may not have made an Inquisitor based off her. Oh, I have little doubt that if Mhari had survived, she would have revealed any number of flaws to stand with classic Bioware Companions. Many of the writers were still in their edgelord phases at the time, David Gaider especially.
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Post by Walter Black on Jul 25, 2023 15:19:17 GMT
One small thing I hope gets addressed in DA;D is the power imbalances in most Bioware romances. Seriously, how many times is the PC's partner our subordinate, either a lower ranking officer or employee? Even if the reverse is true at the beginning of the game, Bioware's Hero's Journey formula quickly speeds us up to the top, at least in relation to romanceable characters.
Now, I can imagine what some people are thinking, that only in the Mass Effect series and Inquisition did the player have *legitimate* authority over Companions. I would argue that by joining Revan, the Spirit Monk, and the Warden's respective missions, those characters become effectively volunteer conscripts. They mostly defer to the player the same as official crew, so you could argue for all intents and purposes they still count. Semantics aside, it's the spirit of the law versus the letter of the law.
Lastly, that leaves the more personal stories of the Bhaalspawn and Hawke. No actual organizations, but a loose association of independent individuals. Usually friends, but not always. Given all the dangerous side jobs players involve them in, I would argue Companions should get a cut of the profits and be considered employees, if not full business partners. Otherwise, it makes Hawke and CHARNAME look like manipulative parasites who abuse their "friends" for free labor. I acknowledge this is my own personal interpretation, but I doubt I'm the only one.
So yeah, pretty much every Bioware protagonist is their prospective lover's commanding officer or boss. I realize part of this is symptomatic of their player power fantasy model, but I hope DA:D does something different, even if only one character.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 26, 2023 10:25:51 GMT
So yeah, pretty much every Bioware protagonist is their prospective lover's commanding officer or boss. This is always going to be an aspect of the relationship unless the PC is not going to be the leader of the group. The alternative, so far as romances go, would be to have them romance someone outside of the group, an advisor or contact of some sort, who is higher status or at least not taking direct orders from the PC. So, for example, if Neve turned out to be a contact in Minrathous rather than a companion, they might give the option of romancing her, thus putting the pair on an equal footing in the relationship. I would also suggest that a lot depends on how the other person views the power dynamic. I don't think Morrigan ever really saw us as her boss and was quite willing to ditch the relationship and the group generally if things didn't go the way she planned. To an extent this was also true of Zevran if you don't do enough to win him over permanently to your side. Leliana was convinced you were sent by the Maker, whilst Alistair doesn't have a problem with ditching you as his superior Grey Warden if he doesn't approve of your decision with regard to Loghain (never done this with a romanced Alistair but presume it must be possible). With Hawke, each of the romances keep their own independence: Merrill has her own hovel; Isabella continues to hang out in the Hanged Man; Anders has his clinic and Fenris his borrowed mansion. I didn't get the sense that any of them regard Hawke as their superior, although I have argued that certain actions should have resulted in complete rejection rather than losing a few approval points (which makes no difference whatsoever to the relationship once friendship/rivalry is locked in) and the rivalry path can have some awkward scenes with Fenris that could be regarded as borderline abusive. Who is to say they do not gain benefits from following Hawke that are not merely monetary, particularly after the first act? In fact, each of them does require you to do something specific that directly benefits them. So, on the whole, I don't really see the problem with the way relationships are presented between the PC and their companions in terms of the power dynamics, particularly where the companion makes the first move. It would be more of a problem if there was some suggestion of manipulation by the PC as their superior in order to pressurise the companion into the relationship but I don't recall that occurring in any of Bioware's games and doubt it ever would.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Jul 31, 2023 12:39:25 GMT
I've already bought some roses, some copper merigolds and have written poems for Lace Harding. I am thinking a dowry of 5 sheaves of wheat, 3 goats and 20 silver pieces oughta to do it. Can't wait for romances, my pants are already unzipped! Biower pls
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Post by mrobnoxiousuk on Oct 24, 2023 20:02:25 GMT
Schmooples will be the main love interest and will be a central tenant of the story as only the power of a Nug in love will be enough to stop the Dreadwolf from merging the fade with Thedas
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